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first flush PE monotub
    #15721378 - 01/26/12 04:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

been a minute since i posted in here so here we go.

first flush monotub PE (camera phone pic)

5qts spawn
1 brick coir
2qts cow manure
2qts verm

all 'pasturized' in place (in the monotub itself) <-- i should really write up a tek for it

tried picking a over mature one and like 3 others came out with it (hence the gab in the center left)

:cheers:

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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: bait_]
    #15721467 - 01/26/12 04:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

That's some pretty dense looking growth.  Nice job!


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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: bait_]
    #15721482 - 01/26/12 04:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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all 'pasturized' in place (in the monotub itself) <-- i should really write up a tek for it




YES PLEASE! I'd love to hear how you do that in the tub!

and great grow! looks like you could get some prints off that!


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~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: bait_]
    #15721517 - 01/26/12 04:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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bait_ said:
been a minute since i posted in here so here we go.

first flush monotub PE (camera phone pic)

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:cheers:




does your phone have a rotary dial? haha just kidding very nice.

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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: bait_]
    #15721785 - 01/26/12 05:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Whoa awesome!

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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984]
    #15721819 - 01/26/12 05:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Wow! Beautiful flush! IME first flush PE = many mutants. Not seeing any here though. :congrats:

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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: bait_]
    #15722452 - 01/26/12 08:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

a lot better than mine in my sig. starting a new one here within the week and hoping to get something similar like this. nice work :thumbup:


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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: ReprisalOfShrooms]
    #15722542 - 01/26/12 08:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

slapphappypill -- a quick write up on that tek

duct tape all the holes

throw in ingredients (i mix verm and manure together fairly well when dry)

bring water (~1.25 gal -- little less i thinkg) to roaring boil

dump in. focusing your pour on the block of coir
put on lid

swish tub around to get the verm/manure wet

wait 20 min

come back -- coir should be pretty well expanded by now
if coir is thoroughly hydrated -- mix ingredients up with spoon and kind of compact it on the bottom
if not -- come back in 10

let sit compacted for 45-1hr

come back and fluff up with spoon

let cool naturally

add spawn (setting some of the mix aside in a separate bowl as a covering)
wipe down sides of tub with paper towel

remove 1 piece of the lower duct-taped hole and replace with polyfil

let colonize

success!

Ill make a formal tek sometime REAL soon (gotta find my camera)

ReprisalOfShrooms -- what were the parameters of your tub? It doesn't look that bad and i've noticed if one gets a poor first flush from PE they will usually get a better 2nd

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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: bait_]
    #15723722 - 01/27/12 03:06 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i've heard this as well usually resulting in mutants but never had that problem thought it was my very first time. what is in my sig is from a second flush but here is my first flush which some pics are missing but here are some. this was from one 66 quart monotub and a bucket first flush. the ones in my sig are from the same tub but second flush and another bucket not mentioned. my grow log can be found here. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14993622


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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: ReprisalOfShrooms]
    #15724062 - 01/27/12 08:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

just to start off this tub was better than average (probably why i posted it) but i do usually get around ~3-4oz dry first flush

perhaps it your spawn ratio or conditions?

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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: bait_]
    #15724585 - 01/27/12 11:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

bait_ said:
slapphappypill -- a quick write up on that tek

duct tape all the holes

throw in ingredients (i mix verm and manure together fairly well when dry)

bring water (~1.25 gal -- little less i thinkg) to roaring boil

dump in. focusing your pour on the block of coir
put on lid

swish tub around to get the verm/manure wet

wait 20 min

come back -- coir should be pretty well expanded by now
if coir is thoroughly hydrated -- mix ingredients up with spoon and kind of compact it on the bottom
if not -- come back in 10

let sit compacted for 45-1hr

come back and fluff up with spoon

let cool naturally

add spawn (setting some of the mix aside in a separate bowl as a covering)
wipe down sides of tub with paper towel

remove 1 piece of the lower duct-taped hole and replace with polyfil

let colonize

success!

Ill make a formal tek sometime REAL soon (gotta find my camera)

ReprisalOfShrooms -- what were the parameters of your tub? It doesn't look that bad and i've noticed if one gets a poor first flush from PE they will usually get a better 2nd




So you pretty much use a "bucket tek" like damion does... and you don't have contam issues with the poo?

Do you ever use coffee in your sub?

Do you ever have any issues with contams? I do my spawning in open air in my room to bulk, with oust in the air, so i'm curious as to how fast contams could set in...


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~

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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: slapphappypill]
    #15724702 - 01/27/12 11:38 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeah i use an 'in situ' bucket tek.

i've gotten green before full colonization but i blame that on too wet of a substrate.

normally no coffee grounds because it's too much of a pain for me to dry stuff.  but if i make a pot that morning i'll throw those in.

contam rate is pretty low.

i had some issues a little bit ago with contams but i blame that on dirty spawn (looked white but didn't colonize the sub -- bacteria is my bet)

I spawn in a similar fashion you do but don't even oust -- just wash my hands.

You want your sub to be fully colonized by ~14 day mark.  after that it's getting risky
pasteurization 'stunts' the growth of nasties

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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: bait_]
    #15724808 - 01/27/12 12:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

hmmmm ok, so I think i'll just keep using my buckets and try this once or twice to see how well it works for me. my substrate only rides about 2-3" high at most, so i'll just add some poo/coffee...

Wont be a coule mo before I try it again, but i'll let you know how it turns out brother! thanks!


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~

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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: slapphappypill]
    #15724883 - 01/27/12 12:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeah man after adding manure my overall yield increased +2oz

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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: bait_]
    #15725030 - 01/27/12 01:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

mine still came out to around 3 to 4 oz and something like 6 oz or so with everything. they were pretty dense with multiple ones drying out to 5 grams and my biggest 7.4    the spawn was rye berries to coir substrate uncased 4 inch depth.


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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: ReprisalOfShrooms]
    #15725105 - 01/27/12 01:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, I see small mushies on coir, no bigger than 1 G dried, however I had some 8-10 gram dry fruits from 2.5" h-poo/verm substrate.

My H-poo is VERY high quality as it's aged 30 years inside an old horse barn :hamsterdance:

it also has equally old straw/wood shavings mixed in as well, and turned out it works like magic!!!

:mindexpanding:


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~

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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: ReprisalOfShrooms]
    #15725151 - 01/27/12 01:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

back when i used just coir thats about what i would get too (3 jars spawn 1 brick coir)

yields slightly increased with some verm thrown in there

and increased fairly significantly with the addition of manure (like $1 for a 40lb bag!).  maybe come summer time i'll do a verm manure trial (gonna be hard to get the consistency down) and see what that produces...

the chubby small-capped mushrooms in your tub pic make me wonder if they were getting adequate FAE but not all of them are like that.

still any amount is better than nothing!

keep on growing
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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: slapphappypill]
    #15725169 - 01/27/12 01:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

that's awesome. i've been getting my substrate from a online vendor since my first attempt at the pc didn't result much but green. it was a cheap 30 dollar one so i'm waiting to get an all american one once i have the spare cash. i ordered coir the first time but now i'm trying out the hpoo since i hear it's the shit! they add all the extra stuff like gypsum and ph balance it etc...


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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: ReprisalOfShrooms]
    #15725176 - 01/27/12 01:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i needed to dunk that tub and that's why i didn't get a good enough second flush. i know what i did wrong and it's been trial and error but that's what makes it fun, because when it finally works out its going to be amazing.


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Re: first flush PE monotub [Re: ReprisalOfShrooms]
    #15725962 - 01/27/12 05:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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...it's been trial and error but that's what makes it fun, because when it finally works out its going to be amazing.



QFT

I started with the pf tek (no dunk or roll) around 5 years and worked my way up through trial and error ever since.

now i have a nice 23qt presto pc (my best investment for this hobby) and fancy lc lids i made myself just to name a few toys...

one question though
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i've been getting my substrate from a online vendor since my first attempt at the pc didn't result much but green...



are you talking about spawn/substrate/or both?
you don't need to pc substrates

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