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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: demonofchaos]
    #15600143 - 01/01/12 08:46 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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it seems to me that the way you guys are going at it is inefficient.

personally i think it would alot easier if you temporary created a new section or something and move all the teks that have been checked there. that way you don't have multiple people repeatedly combing over the same articles to find the bad ones.

with this method the main section would slowly get smaller leaving only the bad articles behind which could than be trashed.




We do not have the permissions to do something along those lines, and Ythan
does not want to re-create, re structure, or change the main page until
after the server upgrade.

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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #15600744 - 01/01/12 11:33 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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And Ythan does not want to re-create, re structure, or change the main page until
after the server upgrade.



Which...
Mind you...
Is never going to happen! :rolleyes:

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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: total]
    #15600774 - 01/01/12 11:38 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

He himself told me it may be a while...and it has been in the works for
over a year now so who knows :shrug:

I do my best to try to help out the community and this is the second time
we have had a crack at straightening out the front page but it seems to
have come to a hault again. What can you do:shrug:

People get busy this time of the year and seeing as we are all doing this
on a volunteer basis we all only have so much time to dedicate to trying to
help out.

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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #15600813 - 01/01/12 11:48 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah...
Server upgrades were a year in the works, a year ago...
:rofl2:

But no, seriously...
Im not hating, but they say they are already sitting in the host...:facepalm:
Just waiting to "roll over"...

Colocation is not cheap...
For two 2u servers at a datahost cost abit...
You pay mostly for the data, but to pay for 4u worth of powered off rack space for over a year, is a waste...:nonono:

By the time it rolls over, this brand new hardware that they are rolling over to will be obsolete..

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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: LeopardMan]
    #15637681 - 01/08/12 11:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Pinback said:
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Kizzle said:
http://www.shroomery.org/5224/How-should-I-prepare-the-casing-layer
"A pasteurization can be achieved by filling the moist material into a suitable microwave container with a cover and microwaved for 10 minutes at high and stirring it a few times during the microwaving to achieve an uniform heat distribution."




What is wrong with this? I have done it myself a countless number of times, and if you search you will see that for example Anno, Blue Helix and Workman has done it too with success (although I don't know whether or not they do it now).




Times have changed sir. Sorry but we can't discuss every single article.  There is a huge amount of work to be done. In my opinion ovens and microwaves are good for making cakes and cookies.




I have always used the microwave for casings, and had zero problems with contamination. Much quicker than firing up the pressure cooker. Your opinion is dead wrong on this one.

You guys are ditching some valuable information here. You should probably not have members of such short standing recommending stuff for deletion. I noticed one of my favorite bulk neglect techs was no more, very sad, it's a classic.

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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: Roker]
    #15638493 - 01/09/12 04:31 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

It is unfortunate that some stuff that does in fact work is getting cut, but many of those teks cause more trouble than they're worth.


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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: dtowntoker]
    #15664100 - 01/14/12 06:50 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone mention this?
http://www.shroomery.org/10477/Cybers-Liquid-Culture-Tek

I can't imagine an LC with no GE is "good info" :shrug:

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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: ISOfantastic]
    #15667577 - 01/14/12 11:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

There is plenty of oxygen for a thick LC.  GE can be provided manually if you so desire.  All my LCs are made in a sealed jar so I can shake them, and turn them upside down to get the best mycelium without spending a bundle on whatamans.


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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: dtowntoker]
    #15668718 - 01/15/12 09:07 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I have to say, when I first started checking this site, I was swamped with so many bits of info, it took me about 4 months to realise you shouldn't incubate in the dark...
:facepalm: my bad. the problem was, so much conflicting info, who do you trust? once I'd read something from 3 or 4 sources, I knew it could be trusted


anyways, my suggestion is:

I know signatures are personal, and an extension of ourselves, but perhaps we could all place 3,4,5 of our favourite teks in there?
this way, when new people stumble into the forums, they'll see the same things over and over again and it'll help give people the confidence that that technique is a good one?

fairly easy to do (perhaps a few sig templates?) and can work alongside the awesome work you're all doing?

Cheers all!!!


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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: dtowntoker]
    #15715266 - 01/25/12 08:47 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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There is plenty of oxygen for a thick LC.  GE can be provided manually if you so desire.  All my LCs are made in a sealed jar so I can shake them, and turn them upside down to get the best mycelium without spending a bundle on whatamans.




What about the vacuum created in the jar?

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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: ISOfantastic]
    #15715833 - 01/25/12 11:39 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

You can use a syringe filled tightly w/ polyfil for the GE, if you don't have any type of GE in your lids for LCs.

Personally, I found Whatmans cheap in bulk online. You've just got to do the work of searching for the right ones.


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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #15721222 - 01/26/12 03:26 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Excellent, I'm glad I found this thread.
I'm thinking of starting up again, I used to grow mushrooms a few years ago, but even so, I think I should start with the basics. :mushroom2:

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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: Durbs]
    #15751530 - 02/02/12 12:28 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/55/60-40-Vermiculite-and-Coco-Coir-Casing-Tek

This is roadkill's tek for suing coir as a casing... I figured this shouldn't be on the site as i've seen plenty of new cultivators using this and wondering why they are not getting fruits for 1+ months


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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: slapphappypill]
    #15846797 - 02/22/12 10:04 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I see a ton of work has already been put into this, but as it stands, there are still many things outstanding that need to be addressed.

Namely, the completeness of the vast majority of teks lack important follow through. Teks need to either instruct readers from start to finish or leave them with a link or two that are rooted directly to the archived articles (not forum threads!)

Because of the complexity of this project and the sheer number of articles that are riddled with antiquated knowledge and falsehoods, would it not be a better approach to start fresh and make a 2012 archive?

Teams could collaborate, provide information, and any info that is subjective or disputable can be discussed openly.

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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: po0dingles]
    #15847033 - 02/22/12 11:20 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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po0dingles said:

....

Because of the complexity of this project and the sheer number of articles that are riddled with antiquated knowledge and falsehoods, would it not be a better approach to start fresh and make a 2012 archive?

Teams could collaborate, provide information, and any info that is subjective or disputable can be discussed openly.




That idea has been brought up several times. It's not going to happen though. Any teks that you see as incomplete, false, misleading, unreliable, etc. can just be brought here so it can be removed and archived for later reference/work.


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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: Wing]
    #15864941 - 02/26/12 04:09 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/8484/What-are-the-optimum-P-cubensis-growth-parameters
bad


http://www.shroomery.org/8437/The-Illustrated-Mushroom-Growers-Guide ;     -They were also stored upside down so that any condensed water would collect on the lid and not on the surface of the agar.
change to.

i kept my plates in a vertical stack so that only the top plate got condensation




http://www.shroomery.org/8426/Kill-Em-All
nah bro, soap n water is cool



http://www.shroomery.org/5213/What-is-a-good-way-to-pasteurize-straw-and-dung
i think hydrating your subs before pasteurizing is better and junk


http://www.shroomery.org/66/Club99s-Honeywater-Mycelium-Tek
peroxide into lc? naw


http://www.shroomery.org/9145/Liquid-Culture-Basics
microwave sterilization and more peroxide malarky


http://www.shroomery.org/9378/High-Quality-Liquid-Culture-Step-by-Step
so close, incubation temp wrong
and i feel like they want to stir too much


http://www.shroomery.org/9789/Teh-Fire-and-4get-Bubbleh-Humidifier
huge fail, with the humidifier and the sealed glass terrarium


http://www.shroomery.org/11003/Experimental-air-pressure-growing-chamber

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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: k00laid]
    #15877400 - 02/28/12 06:04 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

If some of these spores get into your culture jars they can easily kill your young plants

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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: Shroom_Goon]
    #15905979 - 03/05/12 08:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

uh i have done it for years, with my own specs, but always in the oven, um it works very well.  i guess im just lucky because it has worked for many years up til now...

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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: shangrila]
    #16030821 - 04/01/12 07:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I do not want to anger anyone by starting a new thread. I'm scared of the old timers.

I watched all the RR/Roadkill videos, three times.
I read the entire RR massive epic manual thread:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8468463/fpart/1/vc/1
Took me a week! Wow! Answered just about everything I could imagine!

I want to know about the environmental conditions to keep between flushes. RR says to let PF cakes rest and 'dry a little'.
What environmental conditions should somebody keep cakes between flushes to let them rest and "dry a little"? Let the humidity drop to maybe 50%? Should it be dropped more? Less? Keep the temp the same (70ish)? Or leave all the fruiting conditions the same?
I live in a dry cool climate, so I have a lot of control. What do you guys think?

Thanks guys! Really happy and excited to be part of your board. I have learned so much.

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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: Ibogaine]
    #16033334 - 04/02/12 11:52 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

That's a good question.

I would leave the lid off your FC, stop misting and fanning and just let them sit there.

Not sure if that's the best answer but that's what I did for the short time I did cakes.

I'm not sure if it's detailed in EM666's thread about cakes but you can try to look there

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15223324/fpart/1


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