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Re: My monos don't work well :/ No pins during consolidation period. [Re: PureHash]
    #15709251 - 01/23/12 09:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Dont get me wrong, You CAN set, and forget a mono, Is it optimal? Fuck no.

In mycology one should aim for 100% nothing less.
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Re: My monos don't work well :/ No pins during consolidation period. [Re: tr8orjohn]
    #15709278 - 01/23/12 10:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Im confused? Your looking fof pins during consolodation period? While the tub is sealed? Or have you already put it into fruiting? What do you consider consolodation?



Btw if u want a auto monotub put a glass in the middle when you make your tub the sub will colonize around it fine when your ready put it into fruiting fill the glass with water an snake a air line in there with a micropore air stone. Auto tub all day

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Re: My monos don't work well :/ No pins during consolidation period. [Re: Arson420]
    #15709343 - 01/23/12 10:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

So the consensus seems to be more moisture and FAE?

Pure, you may be right on the early contam, but it typically doesn't show up until 2+ weeks after FC is introduced.

Any thoughts on why I never never get a pin while the system is still sealed?


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Re: My monos don't work well :/ No pins during consolidation period. [Re: FunGuy1492]
    #15709380 - 01/23/12 10:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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So the consensus seems to be more moisture and FAE?

Pure, you may be right on the early contam, but it typically doesn't show up until 2+ weeks after FC is introduced.

Any thoughts on why I never never get a pin while the system is still sealed?



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So the consensus seems to be more moisture and FAE?

Pure, you may be right on the early contam, but it typically doesn't show up until 2+ weeks after FC is introduced.

Any thoughts on why I never never get a pin while the system is still sealed?




Umm because your not supposed too? I think your confused you shouldnt get any pins till you expose it to fae n light. If you do you did not properly make your tub either seal or.contam.

Consolodation is when your tub has finished colonizing but you still allow for a couple of days until you fruit it once again you should not get pins. This time allows for the myc to get stronger. Then you expose to fae n light an get a ton of shrooms.

Does this help at all or am I high lol

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Re: My monos don't work well :/ No pins during consolidation period. [Re: Arson420]
    #15709420 - 01/23/12 10:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Umm because your not supposed too? I think your confused you shouldnt get any pins till you expose it to fae n light. If you do you did not properly make your tub either seal or.contam.

Consolodation is when your tub has finished colonizing but you still allow for a couple of days until you fruit it once again you should not get pins. This time allows for the myc to get stronger. Then you expose to fae n light an get a ton of shrooms.

Does this help at all or am I high lol




:smile:  I think most monos start getting pins while everything is still sealed up.  That's when you know they are ready for FAE, once the pins come up,  introduce FAE and a light cycle, then bam growth everywhere.


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Re: My monos don't work well :/ No pins during consolidation period. [Re: FunGuy1492]
    #15709451 - 01/23/12 10:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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:smile:  I think most monos start getting pins while everything is still sealed up.  That's when you know they are ready for FAE, once the pins come up,  introduce FAE and a light cycle, then bam growth everywhere.




Not true. Some people even wait to introduce fruiting conditions for a week or more after full colonization to delay pinning and allow it to consolidate more so it can produce a larger first flush.

The only time they pin before that is by accident, like if someone allows to much air flow during colonization. Parts of the sub may think it's done colonizing, sense the fresh air and begin pinning even though other parts are still colonizing.


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Re: My monos don't work well :/ No pins during consolidation period. [Re: Kizzle]
    #15709612 - 01/23/12 11:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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:)  I think most monos start getting pins while everything is still sealed up.  That's when you know they are ready for FAE, once the pins come up,  introduce FAE and a light cycle, then bam growth everywhere.




Not true. Some people even wait to introduce fruiting conditions for a week or more after full colonization to delay pinning and allow it to consolidate more so it can produce a larger first flush.

The only time they pin before that is by accident, like if someone allows to much air flow during colonization. Parts of the sub may think it's done colonizing, sense the fresh air and begin pinning even though other parts are still colonizing.




Hmm, okay.  I know lots of people get pins before FAE, but maybe it's not something I should be shooting for. 

colonization, 3-4 days of consolidation.  Then lots of FAE.

I guess I'll give it another shot.


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Re: My monos don't work well :/ No pins during consolidation period. [Re: FunGuy1492]
    #15710560 - 01/24/12 07:36 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If you work to get pins durring consolidation, I can almost assure you you will never be able to do anothe grow without them pinning lol. Then these pins that you want to see will be a fucking nightmare, you'll be trying to add co2 to keep it colonizing lol..

I think you should be happy its not pinning before you introduce FC, for pinning on top, I still say put a thin layer of verm to wick up moisture so you don't matt down your mycelium, and misd THEN fan like crazy... Mushrooms LOVE fae, and there is no such thing as to much FAE as long as you can keep your RH up with misting.


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Re: My monos don't work well :/ No pins during consolidation period. [Re: PureHash]
    #15729766 - 01/28/12 03:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

still no TC, man I hope for your sake we can get one to pop by.

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Re: My monos don't work well :/ No pins during consolidation period. [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15732986 - 01/29/12 10:18 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

How many days has it been since 100% colonization currently?


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Re: My monos don't work well :/ No pins during consolidation period. [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15735019 - 01/29/12 06:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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still no TC, man I hope for your sake we can get one to pop by.





Thats probably because the OP is looking for pins before fruiting conditions have been introduced. If fruiting conditions have not been met then you should not see any pinning, Its that simple. lol


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Re: My monos don't work well :/ No pins during consolidation period. [Re: PureHash]
    #15735326 - 01/29/12 07:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Big_Sexy said:
still no TC, man I hope for your sake we can get one to pop by.





Thats probably because the OP is looking for pins before fruiting conditions have been introduced. If fruiting conditions have not been met then you should not see any pinning, Its that simple. lol




I don't think thats the case, dude said he's got everything set up right, and I always wait for pins to show up before I introduce FC. So according to my experience he should wait to see about 12 pins then introduce FC for the best results. But I would really like to get a TC's opinion because this is a little strange regardless...

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Re: My monos don't work well :/ No pins during consolidation period. [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15735372 - 01/29/12 07:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Mycology isnt the same for everyone. If your tubs have less of an airtight seal then the OP's then yours can get enough FAE to trigger pinning. Maybe the OP's grow area has a lower temp then yours? making pinning only occur on exposure to FAE. The OP may NEVER see pinning before introducing FC and may NEVER have a problem with fruiting his tub. Everyone will have different experiences.


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Re: My monos don't work well :/ No pins during consolidation period. [Re: PureHash]
    #15736078 - 01/29/12 10:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

true dat, true dat

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