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Mycology & Related Degrees, Certifications, Courses. Etc.
    #15689473 - 01/19/12 06:16 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Okay, I know this is a very long post. But it is something very important to me, and needs a lot of details for specifics. But for those who do not necessarily care, or have time to read the whole thing (I don't take offense), here is what I am asking for advice on.

1. How would one go about getting a degree in a field of Mycology or related? More specifically, I want to research fungi, bryophytes, algae, plants, lichens, etc? What degree should I pursue to cover everything like that?

2. Are there any Accredited or not Accredited; Degrees, certifications, or even single coarses that are offered online or through the mail (At a Distance Program), related to Mycology, bryology, botany, lichenology, bacteriology, phycology, etc?

3. Does anybody know of any Colleges, Tech schools, or Universities that offer a degree in Mycology or related. Preferably in the NE North America area.

4. Any other suggestions related to this thread?







Sorry for the length of this, this is a very complicated situation, and I dont know who else to turn to for suggestions, I have being trying for years. Hopefully some of you can help.


I am interested in any information anyone may have on some Mycology related courses, certification programs, colleges that offer a degree in this field or a similar field, and most of all, any Online, or courses through the mail. Accredited or not.


Universities, Colleges
I am having trouble finding much information in regards to schools that offer a degree in mycology. Of coarse I know the University of Michigan, has a pretty great program on mycology, but I am having trouble finding information showing they offer a major or minor in the field. I would assume so, since my all time favorite, and one of the greatest contributors to mycology, Alexander H. Smith attended University of Michigan.

But other than that I seems like a dead end in my home state... Which is sad, because I love Michigan, its such a lush mushroom culture too, it seems there would be more college-wise.

Some other colleges I know that are known for their Mycology programs are Oregon State University [not at top of my list], Penn State, and a pretty plausible for me, University of Wisconsin. Tom Volk's program. He's awesome.

Those are all the options I have gathered so far, in the long term sense of my education.
Any other colleges that offer a major or minor in Mycology? Universities, Community Colleges, Tech schools, etc?


At a Distance
One thing I am really hoping to get some suggestions of is, are there any Mycology or related degrees, certifications, or courses offered online, or through mail? Like an "at a distance program" Even if they are not accredited, anything would be great.

I know FMRC offers a coarse called, COLLEGE  OF  BASIDIOMYCETES. It is a certification program, but it is not accredited. It is really neat though, and it teaches everything. This is an example of something I am looking for, but accredited programs from legit colleges would be preferred.

Anything else anyone could think of, that gives you an education in Mycology or a related field?



Now about my own education needs, I am assuming you must start off with a degree in something more broader, say, Biology, Botany, Ecology, etc.?
I have been researching so many different schools, and using various web tools to try to find information on how to go about pursuing a degree in mycology, but it is a very difficult search criteria. The more I think into it, I try to think about if this is the direction I am actually looking for. I think a lot of the mycology degrees would be aimed at human fungal disease, and other services that pertain to the lower fungi.

What I envision of my future, and have had a strong pull of passion for, I see myself wanting to get into I guess a medical field, but more of a biotechnology sense of the word. Like production of medicinal fungi, for research by others, or what I would love more, being the researcher of medicinal fungi. I am not to interested in the Human, plant fungal disease aspect of mycology, very much. So I wouldn't want to diagnose people of their diseases like a doctor, I want to be an actual researcher, out in the field or in the lab. It doesn't seem like you could have a career in mycology unless it was medical related though..

So should I look at pursuing a degree in Mycology, or would it be covered and I be able to specialize in fungi, with a degree in botany, or biotechnology? or something different all together?
Because I also have a strong passion for Phycology, Bryology, Lichenology, Botany, Bacteriology, and the study of Cyanobacteria. All of which could be applied to this medical research, I would want to do.


So I would like to try to keep it all open, beyond just being confined to mycology only if possible.
I know Michigan Technological University offers a bad ass program on Bryology, (the HUGE many volume eBook "Bryophyte Ecology" was written by a bryologist professor there. It is offered online free!) That is not a far distance from me.

and I know multiple colleges in Michigan with pretty great programs in Botany and plant sciences, Michigan State University, Michigan University, Michigan Tech, and more.

I was planning on going to Oakland Community College, a simple starting off college closest to me, They offer an Associates Degree in Science "ASc", But I am wondering, should I even bother with this? I could get a lot of good classes out of it though.
They offer tons of plant science/botany, biology, and chemistry related classes.


So I could really use some advice folks.. I don't know where else to look. I have tried talking to multiple college counselors and they end up all referring me to each other, they have no clue. I am assuming some people on this site gotta have some answers because either some have looked into this before themselves, or they have already accomplished this themselves.

I don't mind moving, preferably Northeastern North America. Canada too. But that is the great thing about the At a distance programs, I can do it from my house while I still organize everything and have the path paved in front of me.



Thank you all, I appreciate anyone's help. This is a very strong passion of mine, and it is the only thing that keeps me going through the days, that hopefully someday I may be able to live out my dreams.
Take care, and hope to hear from some of you.

PLUR


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Re: Mycology & Related Degrees, Certifications, Courses. Etc. [Re: RigVedaLXVII.Soma]
    #15690314 - 01/19/12 09:32 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

If I remember correctly Cornell offers a lot in terms of mycology education and is considered one of the best 4 yr Universities to study this subject at.


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Re: Mycology & Related Degrees, Certifications, Courses. Etc. [Re: greys]
    #15692147 - 01/20/12 10:18 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Check out SIU Carbondale,IL  they have a mycology dept.


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Re: Mycology & Related Degrees, Certifications, Courses. Etc. [Re: mycoelf]
    #15692369 - 01/20/12 11:12 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome, thanks guys. Two places that I haven't heard of. I really appreciate it guys.

Any online coarses anyone?


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Re: Mycology & Related Degrees, Certifications, Courses. Etc. [Re: RigVedaLXVII.Soma]
    #15708809 - 01/23/12 08:11 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Mycology & Related Degrees, Certifications, Courses. Etc. [Re: urbanshroom]
    #15709008 - 01/23/12 08:58 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

North Carolina State University A&T in Greensboro has a Mycology department under Omon Isikhuemhen PhD.  I have met him.  He seems to be pretty big in the field.  He rubs elbows with Stamets et. al.

Might be worth checking into


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Re: Mycology & Related Degrees, Certifications, Courses. Etc. [Re: OICU812]
    #15728948 - 01/28/12 11:18 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I'd start with biology, then microbiology. I think you need to be a biologist before you choose a Specialist area of the field.

Microbiologist is a Specialist for Biology as a Mycologist is a Specialist for Microbiology. .

Mycologists are usually PHD.

"What are the degrees a mycologist must have to become a mycologist?"

"Most biological scientists need a Ph.D. degree in biology or one of its subfields to work in research or development positions. A period of postdoctoral work in the laboratory of a senior researcher has become common for biological scientists who intend to conduct research or teach at the university level.

Education and training. A Ph.D. degree usually is necessary for independent research, industrial research, and college teaching, as well as for advancement to administrative positions. A master's degree is sufficient for some jobs in applied research, product development, management, or inspection; it also may qualify one to work as a research technician or a teacher. The bachelor's degree is adequate for some nonresearch jobs. For example, graduates with a bachelor's degree may start as biological scientists in testing and inspection or may work in jobs related to biological science, such as technical sales or service representatives. Some work as research assistants, laboratory technicians, or high school biology teachers. (See the statements elsewhere in the Handbook on clinical laboratory technologists and technicians; science technicians; and teachers-preschool, kindergarten, elementary, middle, and secondary.) Many with a bachelor's degree in biology enter medical, dental, veterinary, or other health profession schools.

In addition to required courses in chemistry and biology, undergraduate biological science majors usually study allied disciplines such as mathematics, physics, engineering, and computer science. Computer courses are beneficial for modeling and simulating biological processes, operating some laboratory equipment, and performing research in the emerging field of bioinformatics. Those interested in studying the environment also should take courses in environmental studies and become familiar with applicable legislation and regulations. Prospective biological scientists who hope to work as marine biologists should have at least a bachelor's degree in a biological or marine science. However, students should not overspecialize in undergraduate study, as knowledge of marine biology often is acquired in graduate study.

Most colleges and universities offer bachelor's degrees in biological science, and many offer advanced degrees. Advanced degree programs often emphasize a subfield such as microbiology or botany, but not all universities offer curricula in all subfields. Larger universities frequently have separate departments specializing in different areas of biological science. For example, a program in botany might cover agronomy, horticulture, or plant pathology. Advanced degree programs typically include classroom and fieldwork, laboratory research, and a thesis or dissertation.

Biological scientists with a Ph.D. often take temporary postdoctoral research positions that provide specialized research experience. Postdoctoral positions may offer the opportunity to publish research findings. A solid record of published research is essential in obtaining a permanent position involving basic research, especially for those seeking a permanent college or university faculty position.

Other qualifications. Biological scientists should be able to work independently or as part of a team and be able to communicate clearly and concisely, both orally and in writing. Those in private industry, especially those who aspire to management or administrative positions, should possess strong business and communication skills and be familiar with regulatory issues and marketing and management techniques. Those doing field research in remote areas must have physical stamina. Biological scientists also must have patience and self-discipline to conduct long and detailed research projects.

Advancement. As they gain experience, biological scientists typically gain greater control over their research and may advance to become lead researchers directing a team of scientists and technicians. Some work as consultants to businesses or to government agencies. However, those dependent on research grants are still constrained by funding agencies, and they may spend much of their time writing grant proposals. Others choose to move into managerial positions and become natural science managers (see engineering and natural sciences managers elsewhere in the Handbook). They may plan and administer programs for testing foods and drugs, for example, or direct activities at zoos or botanical gardens. Those who pursue management careers spend much of their time preparing budgets and schedules. Some leave biology for nontechnical managerial, administrative, or sales jobs."

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Re: Mycology & Related Degrees, Certifications, Courses. Etc. [Re: teknix]
    #15729483 - 01/28/12 02:11 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

WOW.
Awesome!
Thank you so much.


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Re: Mycology & Related Degrees, Certifications, Courses. Etc. [Re: RigVedaLXVII.Soma]
    #15729851 - 01/28/12 03:40 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

No prob. You may even find something else that you would rather pursue along the way, I like all of science it's hard to decide one thing. If you do good in the classes you can do Independent Studies in a related area of your choice for science credits at most colleges. Like learning to write a research paper for controlled experiments or conducting one with a team, depending where you are in your education.

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Re: Mycology & Related Degrees, Certifications, Courses. Etc. [Re: teknix]
    #15741878 - 01/31/12 08:59 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

A lot of universities offer B.S. of Microbiology these days, which is what you would want for your undergraduate.

A few people have named off schools with undergraduate mycology programs, I personally do not know of any. Though I think that it is common for mycology courses to be included in the curriculum of most Microbio programs. I imagine that an undergraduate program in mycology would be further focused on a smaller number of topics as microbio would be to bio.

The reality is, if you are interested in doing any serious research you probably will end up getting a graduate degree. Graduate programs tend to be a lot more specific in their topic of focus. It is not uncommon to do your undergraduate degree in something more general like bio or micro and then get more specific in your graduate work.


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Re: Mycology & Related Degrees, Certifications, Courses. Etc. [Re: metacohl]
    #15743885 - 01/31/12 06:01 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah thats what I am gathering from all this.
Since as I said, I do not wish to only study Fungi, so something directed at only mycology would not necessarily be the right choice for me after all.

I will be enrolling in some classes at my local college this spring, on the path to a degree in Biology first I am thinking.
Then as many have said, I would like to continue on a degree in Microbiology.

I don't mind being in school for the next couple decades of my life.

But I am just hoping that this isnt all just a dream. That I will eventually after all my hard work be able to follow through with research topics of my own choice, instead of just a predetermined subject laid in front of me for the rest of my career.
This is mainly what I am looking to achieve.

Biotechnology was my first passion, but I think the best choice will be Microbiology, to be able to study multiple subjects like, Bryology, Phycology, Mycology, Lichenology, and Bacteriology. And as others have said, there is no way to tell now, the cards will fall were they may, and I will make choices depending on the person I am at that point in my education.


I am going to contact Janice M. Glime Ph.D. Byrologist, and professor of Michigan Technological University. She is author of the multiple volume book called "Bryophyte Ecology". [Highly recommend anyone and everyone who may be interested in Moss to check it out, It is the one stop resource for all your bryology needs.]
She may be able to give me a little direction as well.


Thanks for all the contribution guys!
Keep adding more if anybody can! This may be a great resource for someone with similar interests at another date.


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Re: Mycology & Related Degrees, Certifications, Courses. Etc. [Re: RigVedaLXVII.Soma]
    #18431341 - 06/17/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I have the same interests of obtaining an education that eventually focuses on mycology, and have recently discovered Massive Open Online Courses or MOOC's.  These are free online courses offered by some of the most prestigious universities and colleges in the US.  Saylor.org offers a Biology program including a microbiology course.  Academicroom.com offers additional information on Microbiology. This site even has a mycology link, however, it is still seriously lacking information.

I've been doing much research and Saylor University seems to be the only one offering a complete program in biology at the time of writing.  I am heavily leaning on applying for enrollment. Then, I plan to focus on microbiology, and then chemistry to follow. If you Google "mycology free education" a plethora of information, free books, videos, academic journals, etc. results.

Sometimes I wonder if I'll ever finish my education...  I hope this information helps, thanks for reading.

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