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Question on harvesting
    #15683605 - 01/18/12 01:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I know you're supposed to pick your shrooms as they open their veils and start to sporulate, but do you guys usually pick individual shrooms as this happens, or wait until the entire flush is around that maturity and pick everything at once?

This is my first grow and some of my larger shrooms broke their veils overnight, but most of the first flush is still just pins.

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Re: Question on harvesting [Re: tdmm]
    #15683642 - 01/18/12 01:58 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I've only done a few tubs so take my advice with a grain of salt, but I think the answer is that it's really up to you.

If you pick them as they mature individually, that will be a lot of picking and drying here and there instead of taking care of all of that in one fell swoop.  It also gives you a clear distinction between your first and second flushes, your second and third flushes, etc.  If you pick them all at once it is easier to rehydrate your substrate by dunking it or spraying the shit out of it with a water bottle or whatever you do.

Personally, I chose to pick them as they matured with my first few tubs, but recently I've leaned more towards trying to pick them all at about the same time.  It gets really tedious and cumbersome to pick and dry them at various intervals, and the substrate seems to desire a little rehydration even when parts of it are still popping up baby fruits.  So I just pick the baby fruits now and rehydrate the substrate so I can get more fruits to start popping up.


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Re: Question on harvesting [Re: tdmm]
    #15683646 - 01/18/12 01:58 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Working with cakes I'd presume? If it were me, I'd cut the mature mushies at the base and allow the others to mature, myself. I'm not a fan of spores uglying up my pretty caps though.

Of course you're fine to leave them but I'd also assume (and I could be wrong) your cake will continue splitting its energy between your mature fruit and your pins. I like to harvest as the veil breaks seeing as its not going to get much bigger technically but its still taking the water that my other mushies could be benefiting from. Personal choice I'd say. :goodluck: and happy harvesting!

I like Damn's point. It can be very tedious, harvesting every few hours doing it this way and drying in intervals. it totally depends on your priorities. I harvest for a 24 hr period and throw them in the fridge until that days up, dry overnight and do the same thing for the next day. Its pretty consistent work for a couple of days with a decentish flush on cakes. I use a dehydrator though and I hear it makes it a little quicker. :shrug: goodluck!

Edited by Sparkx (01/18/12 02:05 PM)

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Re: Question on harvesting [Re: Sparkx]
    #15683810 - 01/18/12 02:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, working with PF cakes.  The shrooms are pretty small even though they opened... I know I can't expect too much with my first grow using PF cakes but I guess I expected more than 1-2" shrooms... :shrug:

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Re: Question on harvesting [Re: Sparkx]
    #15683813 - 01/18/12 02:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i pick em as they mature


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Re: Question on harvesting [Re: tdmm]
    #15683885 - 01/18/12 02:50 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yeaah cakes are inherently limited as there's only so much nutrients, water and surface area I suppose. Some people have monstrous cakes, I envy the towering cakes with clusters on all sides. I've yet to get that result but I've seen a few bigguns, probably 4-5 in.

You're going to learn alot about their life cycle this way and how reactive they are to your environment/settings. :grin: Next time will be bigger and better I'd say!


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Re: Question on harvesting [Re: tdmm]
    #15683905 - 01/18/12 02:54 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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tdmm said:
Yes, working with PF cakes.  The shrooms are pretty small even though they opened... I know I can't expect too much with my first grow using PF cakes but I guess I expected more than 1-2" shrooms... :shrug:




Next time, dunk and roll, and then mist as required.  Your mushrooms should be twice or more that size.  Also, for best quality, pick before the veil opens.
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Re: Question on harvesting [Re: New HooN]
    #15683917 - 01/18/12 02:58 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

PF Cakes can produce quite well, my largest mushroom came from my first PF cake grow; weighed about 40 grams wet and pulled the cake over (available to see in my gallery of "First Grow: B+" after anti-SOPA day). If they're all small you're probably not maintaining an ideal environment or you're working with a tiny strain.

I pick em 'as their veils begin to tear, by twisting their bases lightly they pop off with ease; they won't gain much more weight and it's usually a few day process for a substrate to finish a flush. I include fruits in the drying process as soon as they're picked, I simply have a surface in front of a fan where they go first after being picked. Individually selected specimens are then moved to a desiccant chamber as they become significantly dry; the desiccant chamber is then harvested from, also by individual specimens, when they become cracker dry. I have no problems with interruptions, no harm seems to be done.

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Re: Question on harvesting [Re: Phallus]
    #15683971 - 01/18/12 03:09 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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If they're all small you're probably not maintaining an ideal environment or you're working with a tiny strain.





Yeah that's the thing I believe I have done everything (almost) right.  I dunked for 24 hours, rolled in verm, and have them in a properly constructed SGFC.  RH is now staying steady around 96% after falling a bit the first few days into the 80s.  Temp steadily around 72*.

One thing is I didn't get a lot of verm to stick to the sides of some of the cakes, so they're a little exposed and bruising... not sure if that could explain small fruits, but maybe.

There are one or two that are looking quite fat that haven't opened yet, I was just a little disappointed to see my tallest shroom sporulating today after only growing about 1.5-2"... maybe subsequent ones will be bigger.

Thanks for the responses everyone.

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