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Picture of my cakes in the fruiting chamber
    #15679027 - 01/17/12 04:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Thought you deserved a picture of my progress. This is fresh after the first misting after the dunk and roll.


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Re: Picture of my cakes in the fruiting chamber [Re: TheOptical]
    #15679059 - 01/17/12 04:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

week or 2 you will have some pins my friend, just follow tha tek..:tongue2:


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Re: Picture of my cakes in the fruiting chamber [Re: TheOptical]
    #15679116 - 01/17/12 04:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Nice but raise the FC from the floor.


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Re: Picture of my cakes in the fruiting chamber [Re: LeopardMan]
    #15679238 - 01/17/12 05:02 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Raising the FC off the ground seems pointless considering I didn't put holes in the bottom. Yeah I didn't follow the SGFC tek exactly, but I figured 5 sides with holes would allow for plenty of air exchange. I was afraid the perlite would leak through the bottom of the container! Plus I have a fan in the room, you can't see it in the picture, which should allow for additional FAE.

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Re: Picture of my cakes in the fruiting chamber [Re: TheOptical]
    #15679269 - 01/17/12 05:07 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You are dead wrong. Holes on all six sides and no fan. Just natural air currents. With your setup you'll have less RH and less FAE. And raising the FC from the floor is indeed important in order to avoid contaminants (even if you don't have holes on the bottom, which is not recommended).


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Re: Picture of my cakes in the fruiting chamber [Re: LeopardMan]
    #15679289 - 01/17/12 05:12 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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You are dead wrong. Holes on all six sides and no fan. Just natural air currents. With your setup you'll have less RH and less FAE. And raising the FC from the floor is indeed important in order to avoid contaminants (even if you don't have holes on the bottom, which is not recommended).




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Re: Picture of my cakes in the fruiting chamber [Re: Shamrocker]
    #15679295 - 01/17/12 05:13 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Plus lots of contams at ground level!

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Re: Picture of my cakes in the fruiting chamber [Re: Shamrocker]
    #15679354 - 01/17/12 05:25 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Your perlite isn't going to fall out. Mine doesn't and nobody else's does. As long as your holes are made according to the tek you'll be fine.


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Re: Picture of my cakes in the fruiting chamber [Re: SpookyCupid]
    #15679819 - 01/17/12 07:01 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

dude!! u need 5 inches of perlite to keep at 95% RH..also u need to put holes every two inches apart all over ur fruiting chamber.:doublefacepalm:


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Re: Picture of my cakes in the fruiting chamber [Re: jwalt420]
    #15679873 - 01/17/12 07:10 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah man. Atleast 4 inches of Perlite is needed
And holes on every side, including the bottom so air can flow through it and bring up the water from the perlite to raise humidity inside the sgfc. And take it off the floor
Cmon meng


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Re: Picture of my cakes in the fruiting chamber [Re: blackhawk]
    #15680717 - 01/17/12 09:32 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It wont fruit, they will turn blue dryout
follow this tek here http://www.shroomery.org/10254/PF-TEK-Update-The-Shotgun-Terrarium
YOU WILL HAVE FRUITS THIS WAY!! this is best way for noobs to learn the hobby.....follow to the tee... :bunnypeace:


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Re: Picture of my cakes in the fruiting chamber [Re: TheOptical]
    #15681734 - 01/18/12 01:32 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Damn, I'm really getting sick of that double facepalm. It is not easy being a noob.

(Well fuck, I was going to upload pictures, but I guess I cannot because it's SOPA awareness day. Pretend there is a picture of my FC resting on top of a Nintendo Wii box)

There, it's not on the ground anymore. Better?

As for the "insufficient" amount of perlite and lack of holes in the bottom, I'm afraid that's going to have to wait until my next project. This one's already set up. As for those of you who say it's going to dry out, that's what the misting is for! Besides, I don't even own a drill! I had to borrow one from a friend.

I should mention that 4 inches of perlite sounds like alot. That's way more than comes in the bags of perlite I got at Wal-Mart.

Come on guys, give me some credit. You really think a sick setup like this is going to fail (sarcasm)?

(Pretend there is a picture of my cozy closet with my setup in it. There is my fruiting chamber resting on top of the wii box, a spray bottle full of water, a lamp with a 6500k bulb, and a fan pointing away from the FC. You can see the wires leading out of the closet.)

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Re: Picture of my cakes in the fruiting chamber [Re: TheOptical] * 1
    #15681797 - 01/18/12 02:06 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You need the holes in the bottom for co2 to escape or it will linger just below your bottom holes, in your perlite.

I got 4 bags of perlite at the same mart store for 12$ filled 2 66 quart fc's 5-6 inches(I have a pmp/sfgc combo type thing air pump, fish tank heater, holes where they drain co2,)  and have a bag and a half left.

I'm a noob, just read and read and read and read some more/.


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Re: Picture of my cakes in the fruiting chamber [Re: TheOptical]
    #15682400 - 01/18/12 08:47 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

LoL. :stanhopefacepalm:

You boast of your progress and when its noticed that some of your changes you've made can be detrimental, then you don't want to hear it. And from a TC? Classic, but trial and error works really well in this hobby. Well this experienced 'noob' will try too. Eventually you'll get tired of poor results and find what works through teks, if you stick to it and don't get too frustrated with your inability to follow directions. I do mean that in the kindest way possible.

I think you're going to be sorely disappointed with too little perlite, no holes in the bottom for airflow and your FC sitting on a Wii on the floor in a closet. The first few feet above your carpet are the dirtiest.

To stay on topic. 3-5 inches of wet perlite is what you need. 4 works great. Yes it is more then what you buy in one bag. Its a necessary cost for you at this point. Your airholes on the bottom could wait until your next project, but then this one's sure to perform less optimally, if at all. And wal-mart sucks. The world ought to be out buying from their local nursery not the satan-chain that is wal-mart. There is so much recycling and renewing that can be done through mushroom cultivation. Sad when we have to resort to box-chains really. It took 24 dry quarts to fill a SGFC that is probably equal to or smaller than yours.


Lots of credit to you buddy. You're halfway there! Best thing you could do with your hobby time today, is transfer your cakes to a clean container (dunk em if you didn't), drill holes in the bottom of your FC (borrow a drill or try heating something metal as a last resort), go to your nursery for some perlite, then saturate it and add to make it to 3-5inches, transfer your cakes back and then resume your pinning triggers. Is it worth the work? Yes. Are you going to believe it is? Idk and :goodluck:

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Re: Picture of my cakes in the fruiting chamber [Re: Sparkx]
    #15683541 - 01/18/12 01:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the advice.

It's not that I don't like everyone's helpfulness. I really appreciate it. It's just frustrating that I've spent my personal time and money, not to mention that I'm very excited about having my personal supply of mushrooms :wink:  and I cut a few corners on minor details expecting very good (but not the best) results and I just get told that I'm going to fail.

Well this weekend, I'll get my friend's drill again and a BRAND NEW see-through container (mine is pretty short, I want a taller one), and this time I will drill holes all throughout the box. I'm also going to buy perlite. Lots of perlite. I'll dump the perlite from the other box and drill more holes into it to possibly keep it as a spare FC. I will also replace my Nintendo Wii box with BRICKS :ooo::ooo::ooo:

On a final note, I want to talk about exactly how I am treating the mushrooms. I am spraying the mushrooms well. I give all 5 cakes a nice mist of at least 3 strong sprays each. I also lightly mist the perlite. I spray every 4 hours, except when I'm sleeping, so I'm probably going to miss one "spray time" a day. This probably means I'm spraying about 5 times per day. And I know the cakes are not drying out because I GENTLY touched one of the cakes with the back of my hand before a spray session and it was wet, not soaking but definitely damp. The light cycle is close to 12/12: on at 10pm, off at 10am, though those are just approximate times, not overly strict. And remember, I have the fan set on low for FAE. I'm sure SOME air is moving in the container even if there are no holes on the bottom.

Edited by TheOptical (01/18/12 01:39 PM)

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Re: Picture of my cakes in the fruiting chamber [Re: TheOptical]
    #15684427 - 01/18/12 04:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

:grin: I wouldn't say your destined to fail at all. It sounds like a good plan you've got.

I don't mean to criticize, on the bright side your perlite will be reusable! It does sound like your misting your cakes alot. I mist 3x a day (pointed upward) to replace lost water and I watch my top vermiculite layer closely for hydration. I use double end casing on cakes when they begin their second flush (rolling for the 1st per tek), with verm on the bottom in a jar lid and a layer of verm on top. It helps keep it hydrated and serves as a gauge for me.

I waterlogged my first grow attempt with misting too much and dunking after a flush when my cakes were plenty hydrated. I found out that Misting is for evaporation, I needed the droplets of water to evaporate quickly even with fanning directly after. I can't really guess at your cakes water level and its just what what stood out to me.. I wish you well, maybe look into misting in your search endeavours. :goodluck:

Edit: your times for lighting sound fine to me. :thumbup:

I've never seen anyone have luck with a fan running in the same room as an SGFC. I've only seen accounts of it drying out their cakes. Can give it a try and monitor their conditions, I would have a hard time with that as I don't yet have an analog hygrometer that can accurately gauge in 1% increments. My digital hygrometer will however tell me if its below 95 within 30minutes to an hour.its slow but it works with a small amount of accuracy.

Edited by Sparkx (01/18/12 04:46 PM)

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