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Coir pasteurization
    #15672197 - 01/16/12 02:35 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

How much water do I add to this non-bricked coir?

8 quarts loose coir


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Re: Coir pasteurization [Re: Selfindulgence]
    #15672354 - 01/16/12 04:14 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Hydrate the coir to about 80% moisture content.  Ever heard of field capacity?  By clicking the link provided you will be taught briefly what and how, to achieve proper moisture content of bulk substrate materials such as coir and manure.


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Re: Coir pasteurization [Re: hamloaf]
    #15672829 - 01/16/12 09:04 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Judging proper field capacity can be difficult for new growers, that's why we recommend "bricks" of coir because about 4 quarts of water is always the right amount.

Try using what you got if you're confident, who knows you might pick-it-up quickly. If you have too much trouble though and can't get the water content right, then switch to bricks.
Here is the best price on coco coir bricks I have found.

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Re: Coir pasteurization [Re: gref]
    #15672842 - 01/16/12 09:09 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Just my personal opinion, but I think you get a better bang for your buck with the bricks, at least at my local pet store.  That 8 quart bag costs as much as a 3 pack of bricks and you get way more from the bricks after hydration.

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Re: Coir pasteurization [Re: Selfindulgence]
    #15672988 - 01/16/12 09:51 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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How much water do I add to this non-bricked coir?





dont use non bricked coir


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Re: Coir pasteurization [Re: k00laid]
    #15673000 - 01/16/12 09:54 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Why not?


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Re: Coir pasteurization [Re: hamloaf]
    #15673002 - 01/16/12 09:55 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

too expensive


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Re: Coir pasteurization [Re: k00laid]
    #15673097 - 01/16/12 10:19 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

To say that using bricked coir would be cheaper than bagged coir makes more sense then to come out and merely state to "not use bagged coir".  Seems as if you're implicating that bagged coir won't work.


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Re: Coir pasteurization [Re: hamloaf]
    #15673100 - 01/16/12 10:20 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i see how that can be interpreted and i totally didnt mean it that way.

but using bagged coir is more expensive and harder to get proper moisture.

and if they have bagged coir they have bricked coir.


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Re: Coir pasteurization [Re: k00laid]
    #15673850 - 01/16/12 02:21 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Actually they were out of stock, or I would have got bricks like I usually do. Also, yes I know how to judge field capacity. I just figured the shroomery would have had a hydration/pasteurization recipe for loose coir by now.


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Re: Coir pasteurization [Re: Selfindulgence]
    #15673867 - 01/16/12 02:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Actually they were out of stock, or I would have got bricks like I usually do. Also, yes I know how to judge field capacity. I just figured the shroomery would have had a hydration/pasteurization recipe for loose coir by now.




Order online bro. :pirate:
Glad you know how to judge field capacity, I look forward to seeing your grow when you get fruits!

You're totally right man, why don't we? How about you be the first one to post a tek on using loose coir. I'm sure you would get some props. :rasta:
Look on the bag for instructions, they might mention like a certain amount of water per weight unit of coir.

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Re: Coir pasteurization [Re: Selfindulgence]
    #15673991 - 01/16/12 02:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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How much water do I add to this non-bricked coir?

8 quarts loose coir




Hamloaf and k00laid are spot on: the bricks rock and field capacity is what you want.

I need to add that what you show in the picture is not just non-bricked coir, but that it is the wrong type
all together.  What you show there is "fibers".  You want the ground material. 

Good luck,

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Re: Coir pasteurization [Re: Javadog]
    #15674070 - 01/16/12 03:05 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

ive used the exact same bag just make it as you would with the brick coir :thumbup: i used 3 qts of verm with it


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Re: Coir pasteurization [Re: tripdawg420]
    #15674187 - 01/16/12 03:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I tried it first, and failed, but succeeded later with
the standard bricks of coir.

It is entirely likely that I was just ignorant at the time.

...but I will not buy the loose fibers again.

My $0.02.

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Re: Coir pasteurization [Re: Javadog]
    #15674577 - 01/16/12 05:09 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'm having good results with that exact same bag you have.50% manure50%coir. I'm back on the shroomery by the way,was a member back in 03 and couldn't log on my old account.

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Re: Coir pasteurization [Re: Javadog]
    #15674958 - 01/16/12 06:32 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

Selfindulgence said:
How much water do I add to this non-bricked coir?

8 quarts loose coir




Hamloaf and k00laid are spot on: the bricks rock and field capacity is what you want.

I need to add that what you show in the picture is not just non-bricked coir, but that it is the wrong type
all together.  What you show there is "fibers".  You want the ground material. 

Good luck,

JD




I used a brick of eco earth, with a recent grow, that worked great, supposably its the same substrate according to petco employee's (not really saying much) but I guess I'll start a mini mono grow with the loose sub as an experiment and if I get good results I'll post a tek. But in the meen time I'm going back to bricked Tropical soil.


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Re: Coir pasteurization [Re: Selfindulgence]
    #15675312 - 01/16/12 08:04 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Using a ratio of 1:3+, coir:water, will bring you a little shy of field capacity...  I do 1:3 for my coir and 1:2 for my vermiculite (all by weight)...  Once ready to fruit, I give them a dunk and then place in fruiting conditions :thumbup:

Example: 100g coir hydrated with 300+ml of water


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