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InvisibleChronic7
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Temperature probe on monotub?
    #15668232 - 01/15/12 04:21 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Im going to have a heat mat underneath my monotub & it's controlled by a thermostat with a temperature probe, so i need to cut a hole in my mono tub & insert the probe, where would be best to do this?

Im thinking at just above the substrate level & let the probe rest ontop of the substrate?

Looking forward to getting my first bulk grow started today
I have a colonized rye bag, coir, verm, a tub, heatmat/thermostat so think i have everything good to go, just need some polyfill for when i start fruiting

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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: Chronic7]
    #15668242 - 01/15/12 04:30 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Why are you putting a heat matt under your tub?  If your room is too cold a heat mat is not the solution for it will not effect the ambiant temperature of anything except the bottom of your tub. What you need is an electric heater not a heat mat on the bottom of your tub.


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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: Grungeman17]
    #15668260 - 01/15/12 04:52 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Its an infrared heat mat so the heat will penetrate right through the tub, its only for a gentle heat, my room isn't necessarily 'cold' but i do keep it cool because of a green grow i got going on

When im spawning to bulk substrate the temp needs to be 27-29c, my room definitely isn't that warm, more like 22-24c, so fruiting will be fine, but the mycelium run needs higher temps

Bringing up the room temp isn't the solution unless i want to fry my plants


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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: Chronic7]
    #15668313 - 01/15/12 05:33 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Turn off the heating mat. You do not want to heat your FC directly. 22-24C is just perfect for both colonization and fruiting. I usually fruit at 18-22C.


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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: LeopardMan]
    #15668319 - 01/15/12 05:37 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

you europeans and your metric system


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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: masterjaydawg]
    #15668325 - 01/15/12 05:39 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

you always want to heat the room around the fc

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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: Ill-bird]
    #15668383 - 01/15/12 06:10 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Cool i'll dump the heat mat... hopefully my coir/verm will colonize fine without it

Im not sure if my 650g colonized rye grain bag will be enough to colonize the amount of coco/verm i've used

Used 1 brick of coir then added verm until it looks 50/50, currently cooling...


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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: Chronic7]
    #15668409 - 01/15/12 06:25 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

1 brick of coir + 2 quarts of verm + 5 quarts of spawn is perfect.  How many quarts/liters is your spawn bag?


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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: LeopardMan]
    #15668486 - 01/15/12 07:13 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

its a 650g rye injector bag, don't know how that translates into litres/quarts

the verm i used said '10 litres when filled' so i just used it until it looked 50/50 with the coir

i have 2 spawn bags so can use both if one isn't enough...



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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: masterjaydawg]
    #15668525 - 01/15/12 07:29 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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you europeans and your metric system




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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: Chronic7]
    #15668547 - 01/15/12 07:37 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I would use them both. A high spawn ratio is always recommended, especially if it's your first grow. More spawn means less chance of contamination. Coir + high spawn ratio is basically foolproof.


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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: LeopardMan]
    #15668570 - 01/15/12 07:53 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Cool, i will use both of them, it's my first time trying jalisco's (psilocybe mexicana) so hopefully it works!

Id guess each rye injector bag is around 2 litres

How high should my mix in the monotub be?
Im thinking it will be 1-3 inches high if i use all of it

The vermiculite im using is quite fine, not as coarse as the vermiculite ive used for small grows in the past (i used to use verm as a casing layer directly on top of the rye grain)as per this site:
http://www.appliedmicroscience.co.uk/myco-farm/

hopefully this verm im using is ok...

Thanks for the help dude


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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: Chronic7]
    #15668589 - 01/15/12 08:05 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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The Chronic said:
Cool, i will use both of them, it's my first time trying jalisco's (psilocybe mexicana) so hopefully it works!




You didn't mention that. Sclerotia forming species are trickier than cubes to fruit. I am not saying that it's difficult but you need to pay more attention to the whole process. Also, you will need to case your substrate once it's fully colonized (50/50 peat+verm works best).

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Id guess each rye injector bag is around 2 litres

How high should my mix in the monotub be?
Im thinking it will be 1-3 inches high if i use all of it




It depends on how big your tub is :wink: Fine verm is ok. Casing grains with verm works but spawning grains to bulk substrate is much more efficient. Good luck with your grow :super:


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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: LeopardMan]
    #15668615 - 01/15/12 08:23 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ok, i'll get some peat for when it comes to fruiting.
I presume the casing layer shouldn't be too thick or thin

Thanks for the help mate, really enjoying myself :wink:


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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: Chronic7]
    #15668623 - 01/15/12 08:26 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

yes, not too thick :thumbup: Here you will find tons of useful information:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13431948

My pleasure sir :hatsoff:


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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: LeopardMan]
    #15668677 - 01/15/12 08:52 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Im half tempted to just let the rye grain bags go & i'll collect the stones in a few months, but i do have my coir/verm almost cool now, just aching to be used... and never tried jalisco fruits before :drooling:


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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: Chronic7]
    #15668943 - 01/15/12 10:11 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

So i added some of my 50/50 mix to my tub &  then realized im going to split it between 2 tubs as the layer in this one is already 3/4 inches thick & i've only used half of my 50/50 mix

So i will use one rye grain bag per tub

Hopefully it colonizes fast, the rye grain were fully white, but when i broke them up it was like the mycelium disappeared, hopefully it's healthy enough to grow in its new environment


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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: Chronic7]
    #15669015 - 01/15/12 10:30 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

That's normal. You did the right thing. Keep us updated.


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Re: Temperature probe on monotub? [Re: LeopardMan]
    #15673188 - 01/16/12 10:38 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Will do :thumbup:


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