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#15642282 - 01/09/12 08:43 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Please bear with my long rambling rant..
I've consumed huge amounts of drugs intranasally when i was younger (between the ages of 17 and 22.) I am not exagerating when i say that i've consumed Oz's of cocaine and MDMA, dozens of crushed up ecstacies and other pills and literally a LB+ of ketamine + 2cb and other exotics here and there...
At several periods in my life i was a daily snorter of drugs, including one 2 year period where i was doing ketamine daily.
Anyways, it's been a good 4 years or so where i have pretty much abstained from drugs - maybe sniffing drugs 2 or 3 times during that time and NONE in the past 2 years....
During all the time my nose was maybe a little congested, but nothing too major. In my early 20's i started suffering very bad seasonal allergies, some spring/summers worse than others.
Last year i moved to a different city and started working a dusty job where i am also exposed to mold and other house hold contaminates (i protect myself mostly, but i am still exposed to excessive dust and am definitely around mold at times on a regular basis.)
For the past year my nose has been very congested, and during the summer i even got pressure headaches. OTC antihistimines worked for awhile... and then perscription cortico steroid nasal spray helped for awhile. I find nasal irrigation with salt water to be the most relieving and effective, and my nose doesn't clog up with crusties if i rub polysporin in my nostrils with a q tip.. However, now, my nose is often bloody, and its embarassing and gross. It doesn't really drip blood - but its raw inside and my boogers are bloody. If i am wearing a dust mask at work my nose will drip a watery/bloody like substance onto my upper lip.
Honestly, i am at a loss - whats next?
I imagine i am suffering from a combination of allergies, dust, nasal abuse, and a reaction to mold maybe?
I don't know what to do ... i've also tried antibiotics which didn't help. I've been meaning to make an appointment with a specialist but hate going to the walk in...
Any opinion on my situation?
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Re: Intranasal drug use (long term) has left my nose in poor condition? [Re: PDU]
#15642785 - 01/09/12 10:15 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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> Any opinion on my situation?
I hate paying the butcher's bill, but it always comes due. Have you seen an otolaryngologists (ears, nose, and throat specialist)? The problem is that light damage can repair itself but heavy damage cannot. If you have light damage, they will probably give you an antibiotic cream to apply with a cotton swab and tell you not to pick at the scabs, not to blow your nose, keep a humidifier by your bed, etc. If the damage is bad, surgery may be required.
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Re: Intranasal drug use (long term) has left my nose in poor condition? [Re: Seuss]
#15642871 - 01/09/12 10:30 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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I pretty much figured as much. Last time i went to the walk in, he told me he would send me to an "ear nose and throat" specialist...
I would imagine i have done irreversible damage to my nose, although i have met short term (by comparison) cocaine users who had actual holes through their septum - i have no such damage.
I am just curious as to why my nose has become so irritated after moving and starting this dusty job.
I guess it makes sense ... i just wonder if removing myself from the environmental factors which put me at risk (dust and mold) if my symptoms would improve?
I suppose i am not really prepared to quit my job just yet anyways...
Thanks for your input.
I would appreciate comments from anyone who has dealt with something similar.
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Re: Intranasal drug use (long term) has left my nose in poor condition? [Re: PDU]
#15643258 - 01/10/12 12:04 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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any time i do a gram or 2 of coke now it makes my nose bleed...
makes me want to avoid the shit.... prob for the best
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#15647713 - 01/10/12 10:51 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Intranasal drug use (long term) has left my nose in poor condition? [Re: PDU]
#15648790 - 01/11/12 05:56 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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> I am just curious as to why my nose has become so irritated after moving and starting this dusty job.
Basically, you have destroyed the protective lining inside your nasal passages. This will repair itself over time (months to years). However, you are also working in a dusty environment. Normally, the protective layers would keep the dust from irritating your sinuses. Since you lack that protection, the dust has full access to the sensitive membranes. Making matters worse, because the dust irritates your sinuses, your natural reaction to to clear the dust out (blow your nose, etc). This actually makes the problem worse because it damages the repair work and you start to get nose bleeds and scabs. It is a viscous cycle.
My cheap advice as a non-medical professional... invest in cue tips and petroleum jelly (or neosporin type antibiotic ointment). Apply the jelly/cream to the inside of your nose at least four times a day. Avoid blowing your nose. Avoid picking at scabs. It is going to be a game of mind over matter, fighting against the urge to clear your nose.
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 Re: Intranasal drug use (long term) has left my nose in poor condition? [Re: PDU]
#15648956 - 01/11/12 07:21 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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i can sympathize regarding over doing it with nasal drugs when we're younger. is this a problem in your nose or your nose and sinuses. you're obviously in a bad working environment if you're being exposed to molds especially on top of other stuff suspended in the air. chronic inflammation inside the nose itself you might be able to treat with zinc ointments and using a zinc supplement. flushing the sinuses with saline is always a good thing too just don't do that too much either. work environment aside, eating a diet that is anti-inflammatory in itself will help healing, by reducing inflammation of course. a good diet to follow is an insulin resistant diet. not only will it reduce inflammation, you'll never develop diabetes. a good high quality, high potency vitamin and mineral supplement and an antioxidant like vitamin c, 2-3 grams per day. do you use paper masks? they're bullshit, they allow to much to get passed. if you can actually see particles flying in the air you may need to buy yourself a good respirator... fuck they way you look, we're talking about your health here. if people make comments just explain you want the job but the dust is killing you.. soon they'll get smart and buy them themselves... as a matter of fact, your employer has a duty to protect you here in new jersey if the particle count is high and definitely when there is mold involved... there is mounting evidence against mold... there are high efficiency cartridges that will allow you to breathe freely yet capture everything in the air. if your boss is doing remediation or construction he may have an account set up with a company called graingers...they have these cartridges...
here's an excellent example of an insulin resistant diet from a cool website of an awesome healer... following this type of diet will also address any possible food allergies to a very high degree also, which you can't rule out and promote faster healing if i ate meat, this would be the diet i'd follow for the rest of my life because all disease is directly due to inflammation and the whole purpose of this diet it to reduce inflammation so that the cell will respond to insulin... anything that can heal a metabolic disorder like type2 diabetes is cool in my book...
i hope this works for you... i really do man... if you do this, touch base by posting to this thread in the future...
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Re: Intranasal drug use (long term) has left my nose in poor condition? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#15650701 - 01/11/12 03:12 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think you need to develop a good spicy food habit at least! Not sure if they will heal you but they will certainly make your symptoms bearable. Just crush up a bunch of chillies and make some tea and see how that goes. Works wonders for me.
I sometimes have problems with sinus congestion and it's great being able to do the aforementioned and feel everything just clear out.
Cayenne pepper is reported to stop nose bleeds rapidly (and heart attacks!) perhaps due to the capsaicin. Give it a go 
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Re: Intranasal drug use (long term) has left my nose in poor condition? [Re: crkhd]
#15652675 - 01/11/12 10:03 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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cateyes - My work (restoration) is a tough one to protect yourself at, it's not a consistant job site throughout the day. I do have a half face respirator with OV cartridges, dust masks and even a full face shield power vented mask...
However, due to the nature of our work (fixing flood damage) there is often mold. Picture this - i go into a place to rip out a floor after a flood, the place is dry, the equipment is gone and i am prepping for the floor removal. I start pulling baseboard and door casings and once and awhile there's mold. It's just surface mold, small, wet ... but present.
I do certainly wear a mask/respirator when i am doing full out demolition, or sanding drywall mud, or when there is organic hazards ... but it is often extremely inconvenient to wear it throughout the day (straps break, or a respirator slides down because your sweating, i need to direct my co-workers, etc...)
So dispite protecting myself during primary exposure, I am certainly still exposed to some degree during clean up, disposal (emptying the dump truck), etc.
In addition, there is often times dust exposure just because people are messy and their places are unkempt and what we do rustles up the dust. Or, i am doing carpentry or some minor drywall cutting, or sweeping or whatever ...
It's impossible to wear a mask all day.
In addition 2, i have minor mold and mildew in my house (which i have been vigilant about keeping clean, but never the less, it is inside the walls AND i also may have minor mold in my car in the winter, because i have a hole in the floor and the carpet stays wet in the back. :S
It sounds like i am making excuses, but i am just trying to explain myself. I would be happy to hear any comments.
Regarding antibiotic - i took a store bought probiotic, and have been taking kefir occassionally in addition to eating yogurt daily. However, i will be more timely with my kefir consumption considering what your Dr. advised. I find it disappointing that the Dr. who prescribed the antibiotic didn't mention anything about how it destroys my intestinal flora and the measures which should be taken.. Good thing i look after myself.
The diet you recommend is similar to the paleo diet, which i was considering for reasons unrelated. I've actually read a couple books about it, and seems great in theory, although i am not disciplined enough at present to pursue it.
CRKHD - I am known for eating a spicy diet and consume cayenne pepper daily. I find wasabi cleans me out the best.
However, i am not painfully congested these days, but my nose is very irritated.
I think the nasal irrigation is causing the scabs to soften, and thus leaving my nose vulnerable to a variety of environmental irritants throughout the day.
Instead of flushing in the morning, i am going to switch to the evening, in hopes that my nasal passages will harden a bit while i sleep, forming a protective layer...
I've also been focusing on not picking my nose - which i have done alot, since i was a drug addict.
To anyone who is abusing intranasal drugs - heed this thread as a warning! I also believe ketamine may have effected my bladder long term, not to mention cognitive decline. It's fucked up that years later i am dealing with fairly serious consequences from my reckless early 20's.:S
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#15659990 - 01/13/12 10:40 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Intranasal drug use (long term) has left my nose in poor condition? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#15662020 - 01/13/12 06:18 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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It depends how you categorize "congested."
My nose is slightly inflamed and has gooey boogers. However, it is not congested (as i use the term) as i was in the summer, where complete blockage occured causing me head pain.
I do suspect i may have an allergy. I remember seeing on the news in the spring "allergy sufferers will have a tough time this summer with mold" (basically grass and other debris gets moldy outside and some people are very sensitive to the spores in the atmosphere..? I've been paranoid ever since, and low and behold had a terrrible allergy season.
Where would i purchase a zinc ointment?
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#15664096 - 01/14/12 06:47 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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#15664677 - 01/14/12 10:32 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am contesting that mold spores have been around forever.
These problems started (continued nasal problems vs. just seasonal allergies) when i moved from the semi arrid desert where i grew up to a wet coastal city.
Obviously, due to the wet environment here, there is more mold. + I work around it all the time, and have it in my car and house, as i mentioned.
It is nearly everywhere, as far as i can see. Whereas, it was something i never saw back home..
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#15665517 - 01/14/12 01:54 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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I appreciate the info cateyes. We're actually going to be moving soon too!
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