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how to create shiitake plugs from grain spawn ?
    #15661048 - 01/13/12 04:06 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

I am fairly new to growing mushrooms. I have inoculated some logs with shiitake plugs last year and hope to have some mushrooms this spring from that. I think I ended up paying something like $40 for 300 plugs when you include the mailing costs. I seemed to have heard something about creating your own plugs by soaking and boiling dowels and then putting them in a plastic bag with some grain spawn. I am interested in trying this and finding out more on how to do that ..

I am also interested in any books. I have a book, but it's about cultures in petri dishes and very involved. This grain spawn thing seems a little easier and worth trying perhaps ..


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Re: how to create shiitake plugs from grain spawn ? [Re: Larz]
    #15661098 - 01/13/12 04:17 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

You can make plugs easily, soaking dowels for a while, then sterilizing them in a jar, and inoculating them with some grain spawn.

The best book on mushroom cultivation is GGMM, you can find it here

http://www.amazon.com/Growing-Gourmet-Medicinal-Mushrooms-Stamets/dp/1580081754


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Re: how to create shiitake plugs from grain spawn ? [Re: atricoz]
    #15672549 - 01/16/12 08:34 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Hey thanks,

Does that book cover creating plugs from grains spawn ?

How long will shiitake mushrooms pop if you inoculate logs from plugs created using that method ?

Also, can you recommend a good supplier of grain spawn ?

Thanks alot ..


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Re: how to create shiitake plugs from grain spawn ? [Re: Larz]
    #15672600 - 01/16/12 09:12 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

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Larz said:
Hey thanks,

1 Does that book cover creating plugs from grains spawn ?

2 How long will shiitake mushrooms pop if you inoculate logs from plugs created using that method ?

3 Also, can you recommend a good supplier of grain spawn ?

Thanks alot ..




1 I believe it does, but you also just got 99% of your answer...if you can handle grain spawn, you can handle plug spawn.

2 this will depend on the wood used, inoculation rate, temps, etc.....9 months-2 yrs is probably a fair starting guess, it could be as little as 6 months with high inoculation and warm incubation.

3  if you're looking for dowels too, why not just buy dowel spawn?  It would save you several steps, and if you wanted to do more doewls you could sterilize a few hundred dowels in a jar with a bit of bran, and just toss 2 or 3 of the dowels you bought in there instead of buying grain spawn and innoculating all your dowels.  in either case, Field and Forest, Sporeworks, and Fungi Perfecti all have dowel spawn I believe, as well as grain or sawdust spawn.


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Re: how to create shiitake plugs from grain spawn ? [Re: markalbob]
    #15673221 - 01/16/12 12:48 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

When i was gonna wanting to make plugs from grain spawn last year i had a heck of a time finding out how to do it properly so i tried this and it works great everytime.

1.get wooden dowel plugs from mcfeelys.com there cheap there..
2. soak your plugs by submerging them in water for 24-48 hours."i add gypusm to the water soak" not necessary though..
3. PC like your would grains.
4. just do GTG by dumping a lil bit of colonized grain's onto sterilized dowels.  In a week or so your dowels will be fully colonized.. you can then either refrigerate for future use or drill holes in logs and tap in and seal with melted wax..


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Re: how to create shiitake plugs from grain spawn ? [Re: bakenast]
    #15674610 - 01/16/12 07:17 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

You will get dowel pins cheaper here
http://www.wood-dowel.com/store/70-mushroom-spawn-plugs


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Re: how to create shiitake plugs from grain spawn ? [Re: M8M]
    #15674627 - 01/16/12 07:21 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

YOu can also use sawdust spawn instead of grain spawn to inoculate the dowels, and sawdust spawn is very easy and quick to make.  Have fun.
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Re: how to create shiitake plugs from grain spawn ? [Re: Aleon]
    #15675167 - 01/16/12 09:26 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

I saw on Fungi Perfecti this Sawdust Palm Inoculator for inoculating logs with sawdust, but the thing costs $34. I am wondering if that is a better way to inoculate logs or is it just as easy to make dowels from sawdust/grain ?

If I buy sawdust or grain spawn can I keep the stuff alive in my refrigerator for an extended period of time so that I can keep perpetuating it ?

Say I inoculate a bunch of dowels from sawdust or grain and use some of those to inoculate logs and keep the rest in the refrigerator, then a couple of months latter could I make more dowels and use some of those but always keep some spawn on hand in the fridge or wherever ? I am guessing maybe I would have to try to get all the mold from any old food out of the fridge (or maybe keep the spawn well sealed), but I am curious how long I could potentially keep spawn going that way ?


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Re: how to create shiitake plugs from grain spawn ? [Re: atricoz]
    #21731284 - 05/28/15 07:52 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

how can i sterilize plugs without a PC?


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Re: how to create shiitake plugs from grain spawn ? [Re: Larz]
    #21731318 - 05/28/15 08:19 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

" I saw on Fungi Perfecti this Sawdust Palm Inoculator for inoculating logs with sawdust, but the thing costs $34. I am wondering if that is a better way to inoculate logs or is it just as easy to make dowels from sawdust/grain ?"


use a funnel to hold the spawn and ram it into the hole with a dowel


you can probably get away with pasteurizing plugs in a mycobag but sawdust spawn is better in every way.


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