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Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics)
    #15660210 - 01/13/12 11:12 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Hi, so I started these 5 azurescens brf cakes exactly 30 days ago.  Intention was to grow on cakes, transfer to wood chips, then use colonized wood chips to establish an outdoor bed.

Of the 5 cakes, this cake colonized the fastest.  I actually have wood chips pasteurizing as I type this as I intended to move it to the wood chips this weekend.  The other 4 are slower but still colonizing and no sign of contams.

So I started looking at this cake today, and I think I see pins and hyphal knots!  It has been 100% colonized for about a week.  I took it out of the warm closet (75*) to a more normal room temp (60*) a few days ago.

I was under the impression indoor grows of azzies rarely/never fruit, and that it would be extremely unlikely the myc would be strong enough from just growing on brf to fruit, yet here they are...

I'm kinda curious if I should hold off crumbling this cake into wood chips and see if I can get it to fruit indoors??  Or is it just a waste of time and these will abort anyway and just drain the myc?

Thanks for info on this!  Sorry the pics aren't better just have a phone camera, but as far as I can tell with my eyes these are definitely pins.






Edited by tdmm (01/13/12 11:13 AM)

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15660375 - 01/13/12 11:36 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Where did you get your spores from?  Look like cube pins to me

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #15660395 - 01/13/12 11:40 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Where did you get your spores from?  Look like cube pins to me




From a truster sponsor, one of the best ones on this site (don't want to name names and get in trouble).  I would be inclined to think this as well except the myc growth is visibly different than my cube jars, and like I said, this sponsor is definitely trustworthy.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15660404 - 01/13/12 11:42 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

:wow:
Thats pretty amazing

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #15660455 - 01/13/12 11:51 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Where did you get your spores from?  Look like cube pins to me




An experienced grower is wrong???

HOW CAN THIS BE?
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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: Icesyn]
    #15660477 - 01/13/12 11:55 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Where did you get your spores from?  Look like cube pins to me




An experienced grower is wrong???

HOW CAN THIS BE?
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Of course I can be wrong.  Growing mushrooms is constantly changing.  Id love to see the OP fruit the cake and see what comes of it

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #15660495 - 01/13/12 11:58 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Of course I can be wrong.  Growing mushrooms is constantly changing.  Id love to see the OP fruit the cake and see what comes of it




It's nearly impossible to fruit azures indoors. I've seen a couple done, but it's never worth the bounty.

Perfect conditions are outside where nature intended for these beauties.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: Icesyn]
    #15660529 - 01/13/12 12:07 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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It's nearly impossible to fruit azures indoors. I've seen a couple done, but it's never worth the bounty.

Perfect conditions are outside where nature intended for these beauties.




So even though it's pinning you think it's not worth trying to fruit?  Just go ahead with transfer to wood chips as planned?

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15660574 - 01/13/12 12:16 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'd pick off one of the pins and clone it when you take it out of the jar. You may have some unique genetics and I wouldn't pass on the possibility of harnessing them. Though I still don't rule out that you may be growing a different species, it's not impossible for a vendor to accidentally mix up species, it's happened before.

If you've got other colonizing jars then 1 half pint isn't gonna make much a difference in terms of spawn ratio, so I'd try and fruit the cake.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: Jonow]
    #15661302 - 01/13/12 03:01 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Congrats! Lucky you. Do be sure to clone those pins. This is not that far fetched to think it is what the OP believes it to be. With all the amazing different things happening in this forum, I definitely believe that is possible.

I have been contemplating on starting wood lovers indoors. It's so hard to tell if it's worth it by researching. So many mixed results. so I'm gonna just try it. I have an idea for a SGFC that can be temp controlled using a fresh air vent from outside. It will supply fresh air from outside to cool and ventilate the chamber. I am going to construct the chamber first and see if I can control everything well enough.


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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: shroomerite]
    #15661867 - 01/13/12 05:39 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Well after thinking about this all day I think I'm going to go ahead and spawn to wood chips tomorrow as planned.

I only have 5 cakes going and two of them are colonizing so slowly I'm not sure they're gonna make it.  I really want to have azures next fall so I need all 3 of these cakes to colonize chips.

Unfortunately I'm too new to have the ability to clone, all I have is a simple still air box and basic supplies.  But assuming my outdoor patch does well, which I think it will, I will have plenty of spores and myc to work with in the future and maybe more experiments can be done.

Thanks everyone for your input!

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15661881 - 01/13/12 05:42 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

This looks excellent, please keep us updated on this!

Can't wait for more pics/info!

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15662012 - 01/13/12 06:17 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Unfortunately I'm too new to have the ability to clone, all I have is a simple still air box and basic supplies.

Thanks everyone for your input!




If you got this far, you have the ability. I have only ever used a SAB. Take a clean knife, take a small speck from the inside of the stem when it's bigger and put it in a grain jar or LC. It's so easy.


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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: Hartge]
    #15662029 - 01/13/12 06:20 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I got bad news, like the other people who know, that is going to prove to be cubensis. Don't feel bad, but very first post
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12422677#12422677ok at my lo. they are cubes :wink: tell us where you got them
put them in a f?c and watch the cubensis appear

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: SomeGuy]
    #15662103 - 01/13/12 06:39 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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I got bad news, like the other people who know, that is going to prove to be cubensis. Don't feel bad, but very first post
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12422677#12422677ok at my lo. they are cubes :wink: tell us where you got them
put them in a f?c and watch the cubensis appear




Sorry, I just don't see it.  I noc'd up 5 jars of cubes the same day as these, and they have been in the FC for almost a week.  They all grew at about the same rate, with 2 jars being 3-4 days behind the others, and all germinated about the same time.

These germinated in the jars a full week later than the cubes, and the myc doesn't look the same.  It's denser, with less stringy rhizomorphic (? think that's the right term) myc.  It also did not colonize at the same rate as the other jars from the same syringe, this being the first and only to be at 100% so far.  2 of them aren't even at 50%.

The appearance and growth pattern is completely different than the cubes I noc'd up at the same time.  Plus, these pins appeared after I dropped the temp down to about 60* on this jar.

Obviously I can't say for sure at this point, but I just don't think that's the case.  I will know for sure after I spawn to wood chips, though, as I don't think cubes will colonize wood chips.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: shroomerite]
    #15662108 - 01/13/12 06:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Unfortunately I'm too new to have the ability to clone, all I have is a simple still air box and basic supplies.

Thanks everyone for your input!




If you got this far, you have the ability. I have only ever used a SAB. Take a clean knife, take a small speck from the inside of the stem when it's bigger and put it in a grain jar or LC. It's so easy.




Hmm, ok I'll do some more research and see if I can make this happen.  Unfortunately I do have my chips pasteurized and soaking right now so I'm not sure how long I can wait to spawn to let them get bigger.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15662139 - 01/13/12 06:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

don 't spawn them at all fruit them as cakes, as you can see they are forming primordia. If you break them up now your chances of getting fruits is gonna drop to like 5%. Fruit them and show us the pics. I thought the same thing (except about ovoids instead of azures) but then I found out. It don't happen

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15664520 - 01/14/12 09:53 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ok so here's a pic of the largest pin today, it has definitely grown.



Now on whether or not these are actually cube spores I have growing in here, I think I am realizing that may be more likely than I thought yesterday.

1) The vendor I bought spores from (again, it's against the forum rules for me to name names, but it's someone everyone here would agree is a trustworthy vendor) puts a little sticker on each syringe he ships indicating the strain.  These can get knocked around during shipping and maybe the sticker got moved??  This would be upsetting because I've knocked up jars with the other syringes and so now I'd have no idea which batch is which.
2) Vendor could have made a mistake putting the sticker on or been given the wrong spores from a supplier.

At any rate, here's another question in helping to identify what it is that is growing here.

The pics make it harder to see, but this is another jar of the same syringe that is now pinning that is almost 100% colonized.  There's one innoc point there that the myc grew out slower, denser and whiter - and you can see where it met the other myc that looks different.  Any chance there were cube AND azure spores in this syringe for some reason and there's two different species growing here??  Or can genetics make myc look so much different on the same species?





So what's the verdict shroomery?  Are these jars really cubes?  If so, what are the odds one of my other batches from the same shipment is actually azures?

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15664543 - 01/14/12 09:59 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Definitely looks cubeish

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: semaphore]
    #15664595 - 01/14/12 10:14 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Cubes cubes and more cubes.  It was probably 2. wrong spores from supplier.  Vendors can get dicked around by there suppliers.  If I was to sell prints to a vendor I would get more money for an azure over a cube.  The people who grow and make the print for the vendor get very little of the final markup. 

Ive had jars looking like yours also.  I thought it was 2 different incompatible myc growths meeting

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #15664612 - 01/14/12 10:20 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry man but looks like OOPS is it that's cube lookin

At least u got growth, albeit not Wat u wanted but growth non the less


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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #15664615 - 01/14/12 10:21 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

That myc growth happens in my experience when one part of the substrate gets eaten and started to shrink before the other.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: Icesyn]
    #15664627 - 01/14/12 10:23 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ok well that's a serious bummer.  I do wonder though if one of the other syringes in the shipment was azures?  I have emailed the vendor to ask his opinion.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15664632 - 01/14/12 10:23 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I highly doubt you got any azure spores

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #15664654 - 01/14/12 10:28 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

On a related note, if I were to birth this cake and try and fruit it like a cube, should I dunk and roll?  Or will that kill the pins?

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15665222 - 01/14/12 12:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

yea, buddy just dunk and roll it like you would any pf cake. It's possible you will damage a pin or 2 but plenty more will show up shortly, your yeild (in grams) will be about the same whether those couple pins make it or not.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15666194 - 01/14/12 04:48 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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I highly doubt you got any azure spores




:whathesaid:
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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #15666206 - 01/14/12 04:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Where did you get your spores from?  Look like cube pins to me




An experienced grower is wrong???

HOW CAN THIS BE?
:zomgwtf:



Of course I can be wrong.  Growing mushrooms is constantly changing.  Id love to see the OP fruit the cake and see what comes of it




I cannot blame UG, as this is very much a first for me as well.

So, screw all the PNW environmental issues, just grow in-vitro!

Wow.

Let them grow out a bit.  This will help confirm identification.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: Javadog]
    #15666559 - 01/14/12 06:31 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I am going to let them get a little bigger to help confirm id.  The vendor said that since they're wild spores they're possibly contaminated with other strains.  I understand that reality, but nonetheless, I don't see how it gets contam'd with cube spores in the wild??  He was very confident he sent me azure spores.

But whatever, maybe it's some random wood-loving mushroom in there.  Or maybe the label did get screwed up in shipping.  I don't know what's going on here.

Honestly though I have jars with myc that looks *very* different than other cube myc.  So I'm not sure how to proceed, but I think I'm going to try and cover all my bases and spawn at least some of the myc to the wood chips and see what happens.  If indeed there is cube myc growing with the azures, then in theory the azure myc should colonize the chips and the cube myc will die off.

I will keep this one growing in the jar and/or fruit it without a dunk and roll to hopefully get an id in the next few days. If it does turn out at that point to be confirmed cubensis I'll dunk and roll and put in SGFC.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15669072 - 01/15/12 10:47 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Thats an alright idea. Dont waste your cakea though. This seems to be between a gift and a mistake. Cool shit non the less.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: Icesyn]
    #15669130 - 01/15/12 11:01 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Thats an alright idea. Dont waste your cakea though. This seems to be between a gift and a mistake. Cool shit non the less.




Yeah totally.  This particular cake I will not crumble, I think I'm going to put it in the SGFC today as the pins are getting huge and numerous. :mushroom2:

edited to add:
so I went ahead and rinsed the cake being careful not to damage the pins, rolled it lightly in verm, and put it in SGFC.  If it does turn out to be cubensis I'll do a proper dunk and roll after this first flush.

I've also been thinking about this and based on the growth of my other "azurescens" jars and the trustworthy vendors insistence he sold me the right syringe, my guess is that maybe some cube spores got mixed in with his azures, cuz I got some growth in my other jars that definitely is not cube.

Presumably, vendors get prints and then may make up their syringe solution in bulk, combining multiple prints, so a cube print getting mixed in could add a randomness to what's growing in my jars. :shrug:

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15669425 - 01/15/12 12:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

That just means whoever made it is getting sloppy. This shouldn't happen. Wouldn't happen in the wild either. Make sure you get your rightful syringe.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: undeadninja2]
    #15669532 - 01/15/12 12:41 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I thought azures and cubes grew in two totally different habitats. So how could cubes contaminate the azure spores? It sounds like somebody is dickin you around bro.

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    #15669729 - 01/15/12 01:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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I thought azures and cubes grew in two totally different habitats. So how could cubes contaminate the azure spores? It sounds like somebody is dickin you around bro.




Yes I know, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for now while I fruit this cake to confirm it is indeed cubensis and then I will email him again.  It's not the end of the world either way but I just want to know.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15669753 - 01/15/12 01:34 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah but I'm sure it would be more rewarding to have some azures. Oh well at least you won't be empty handed

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: smily]
    #15673639 - 01/16/12 01:23 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

What do you guys think??  I dunno, doesn't really look cubeish to me.  I also haven't noticed any blueing.  Perhaps this is an inactive species?  Although it's hard to see blueing through the verm... (the pic makes it look bluer than it does with the naked eye)

I will continue to let these grow hopefully the warm/humid sgfc will allow for growth.  I'm tempted to put it somewhere cooler though.


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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15673691 - 01/16/12 01:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'm really beginning to doubt those are azures.

For most azure mins I've seen, they have blue around the edge of the cap. Really looks like a cube pin to me.

Azure Pins:




Notice the last pic. The myc is at the base stand like. Cubes tend to look fuzzier. You can even see the smallest one, assuming its a pin. The 1st 2 are indoor grow pics. However I'm not sure they were from a successful grow.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: Icesyn]
    #15673749 - 01/16/12 01:54 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

a couple more days will tell, but yea, the caps are a little brown for an azure but dead on for a cube. When they sporulate and you take a print, we will be able to tell for sure.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: SomeGuy]
    #15673827 - 01/16/12 02:15 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, it is too early to say for certain.

Good luck,

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: Javadog]
    #15674094 - 01/16/12 03:10 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

What i would do would be split cake in two and use half as spawn to a roaster pan worth of bulk and the other half as spawn to the same amount of woodchips/shavings. It's 99% likely you got cubes, but the 1% chance is that you got a nifty indoor happy substrain of azures. What do you have to loose?


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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #15674246 - 01/16/12 03:42 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Thats a cube.  Come on JD you and I both know thats a cube

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #15674282 - 01/16/12 03:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Well, I knew that when I saw the title of the thread.  ;0)

I was hopeful, very hopeful, but expected this mix-up.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: Javadog]
    #15674295 - 01/16/12 03:56 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Well, I knew that when I saw the title of the thread.  ;0)

I was hopeful, very hopeful, but expected this mix-up.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #15674428 - 01/16/12 04:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Well if they're not azures I do hope they're cubes.

Will update in a day or two when they get bigger.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15674788 - 01/16/12 05:55 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

If it is, I demand a print! :waits:

I spent allot of time trying to figure out how to cultivate azures indoors.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: Icesyn]
    #15674822 - 01/16/12 06:01 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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If it is, I demand a print! :waits:

I spent allot of time trying to figure out how to cultivate azures indoors.




You should have spent that time researching cyanofriscosas, instead :wink:


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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #15688112 - 01/19/12 12:41 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

So here's the update a couple days later.  Cliff notes version: of the 5 cakes noc'd up with the "azurescens" syringe, 3 had fully colonized, 1 pinning, look like cubes - going to fruit them as cubes.  The other 2 had very different myc and stalled out.  These have been crumbled on wood chips and are now starting to colonize the wood chips.  I am hopeful this myc is actually azurescens myc, as it is at least something that likes wood!

Pics and more info below.  Feedback appreciated.

1) The cake was pinning definitely looked like cubes and started to blue as the pins grew.  I picked the 2 big pins and have the cake dunking now, along with the other 2 cakes that are likely cube myc.

Here is the pic before I picked the shrooms and dunked the cake.



2) The other 2 cakes had myc that was *much* whiter, denser and slower growing in the BRF cakes.  I am confident this myc is not cube myc.  Unfortunately I don't have pics of these cakes.  It would make sense that a wood-loving myc would find the BRF cake unsuitable for fast growth and kind of slow down after 3+ weeks.

So what I did was take the colonized parts of these cakes and crumbled them in my pasteurized/soaked wood chips.  I observed no blueing of the myc during this process or afterwards.  I didn't expect it to actually work... but take a look!  You can see the myc is definitely moving onto the wood chips.





So here's my theory: vendor (usually reliable sponsor, not a cheap unknown website) had some cube prints mixed in with his azure prints, and my syringe had both cube and azure spores.  The myc now colonizing wood chips is likely azurescens.

Another possibility: it's some other random wood loving species, but I think it would be most likely that it is azure since that is presumably what I was sold, so azure spores would be in the highest quantity and most likely to germinate/grow.

What do you guys think?

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15688132 - 01/19/12 12:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I think you have cube myc colonizing woodchips

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #15688138 - 01/19/12 12:47 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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I think you have cube myc colonizing woodchips




Hmm, I didn't know that was possible.  Will cubes grow on wood chips?

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15688143 - 01/19/12 12:48 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

:bigyesnod:

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15688149 - 01/19/12 12:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yes


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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: Javadog]
    #15688167 - 01/19/12 12:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Damn!  Well, shit.  It still doesn't explain the lack of colonization on the cakes or the denser myc, but I feel like I'm grasping at straws at this point. :tongue:

Oh well, I think I will let this myc grow out and see what happens, as well as start some azurescens from a different vendor.

Thanks for all your help.

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Re: Azurescens brf cake pinning in the jar?? (pics) [Re: tdmm]
    #15690645 - 01/19/12 11:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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I think you have cube myc colonizing woodchips




Hmm, I didn't know that was possible.  Will cubes grow on wood chips?



I think this might have been answered already

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