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Ill-bird

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South African Transkei
#15653542 - 01/12/12 02:21 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Well a friend received a print and made a syringe. He's never made a syringe before so he's not sure if not adding sex lube or something to prevent the spores from sticking to the syringe would be an issue. So anyway he made a few pf jars to test and they were inoculated on the 1/06 and there isn't any sign of growth. Could it be due to the spores sticking to the walls of the syringe or what? He's cultivated before and knows that by now there should be signs of growth at this point. How much longer should he wait before trying again?
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Ill-bird]
#15653546 - 01/12/12 02:22 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Can take up to two weeks for signs of germination from spores.
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Ill-bird

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Re: South African Transkei [Re: semaphore]
#15653557 - 01/12/12 02:30 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Damn. The longest it's took for him was 5 days for signs. I thought south Africans were supposed to be aggressive. So does it matter if you use some sort of anti clumping shit in there?
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Ill-bird]
#15653712 - 01/12/12 03:55 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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One to two weeks is normal for germination.
People use lot of different things in their syringes to prevent clumping. Sex lube, surfactants(such as Jet-Dry)...PF used a gram of agar per liter of water.
You could shake the hell out of the syringe-- or use ultrasonic waves like in a jewelry cleaner bath --to break up the spore clumps.
Generally though, it is stated that if there are enough spores for you to see, there are millions which you can't see. Many people use syringes that look nearly clear with good success.
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Ill-bird]
#15653730 - 01/12/12 04:14 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Ill-bird said: I thought south Africans were supposed to be aggressive.
That's racist.
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Dragonaut]
#15653734 - 01/12/12 04:16 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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I grew some beautiful Transkeis around March of 2010. Probably the prettiest 'shroom I ever grew. Something about them. (Not the most-potent; tho, that could have a lot to do with the source spore that selected itself to grow my batch; I'm sure this could be stated more accurately in mycological terms, but let those nerds deal wi'f ze lingo...).
They're cool. I like Transkei. (I think it was my first successful "grow"; but, beyond that, the shade and slope of the cap were different from any other I ever grew.)
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Dragonaut]
#15653739 - 01/12/12 04:20 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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I already understand all that. What I'm trying to figure out is if there is nothing added to your spore water, are all the spores going to stick to the walls of the syringe and not come out or will it be fine? There wasn't anything to add to the solution on hand so nothing was used.
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Freakdaddy]
#15653742 - 01/12/12 04:23 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Freakdaddy said: I grew some beautiful Transkeis around March of 2010. Probably the prettiest 'shroom I ever grew. Something about them. (Not the most-potent; tho, that could have a lot to do with the source spore that selected itself to grow my batch; I'm sure this could be stated more accurately in mycological terms, but let those nerds deal wi'f ze lingo...).
They're cool. I like Transkei. (I think it was my first successful "grow"; but, beyond that, the shade and slope of the cap were different from any other I ever grew.)
I've heard quite the opposite. I've yet to try them but I've heard they are a really good strain.
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Ill-bird]
#15653746 - 01/12/12 04:26 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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As I sed: I'm a major "head," and they were lite to me.
But such might have been "the genetics" of that which I grew. Yer mileage may vary.
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Ill-bird]
#15653753 - 01/12/12 04:29 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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You say it came from a print.
When I use fresh prints, it make the syringe water look murky and shaded, but I can't see the spores.
An old print almost looks flaky when transferred to a syringe, and the spores need to be hydrated.
Hydrated spores would clump eventually without a non-nutritious gelatin like media like lube or agar.
If it was a dry (not fresh) print, maybe the spores need to be hydrated. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15384050#15384050
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Freakdaddy]
#15653755 - 01/12/12 04:30 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Well hopefully it'll work out for me. How much did you dose of the transkeis? What do you think 4.5 grams would be like?
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Re: South African Transkei *DELETED* [Re: Icesyn]
#15653756 - 01/12/12 04:31 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Re: South African Transkei *DELETED* [Re: Ill-bird]
#15653759 - 01/12/12 04:32 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Ill-bird]
#15653761 - 01/12/12 04:34 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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I'd think 4.5g dry of just about anything would be good enuf for a fun ride (even for me). So, maybe I was being conservative when I did 'em up. I don't know.
They grew well; they were pretty as fuck-all; ...just, I didn't get a major kick out of them. But your print genetics are not my print genetics.
Weigh out 4.5g cracker dry; munch 'em on an almost-empty tummy, 'cept with orange juice (or: do the LemonTek variation...do a Search on this site about LemonTek: IT WORKS!)
Let us know, 'k?
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Ill-bird]
#15653762 - 01/12/12 04:35 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Ill-bird said: I already understand all that. What I'm trying to figure out is if there is nothing added to your spore water, are all the spores going to stick to the walls of the syringe and not come out or will it be fine? There wasn't anything to add to the solution on hand so nothing was used.
You're obviously referring to RR's methods. Why don't you go back to that and figure out yourself.
I have his voice stuck in my head on syringe preparation. Pay attention.
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Ill-bird]
#15653766 - 01/12/12 04:36 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Ill-bird said: I mean my friend did. Lol
You blew your cover.
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Icesyn]
#15653783 - 01/12/12 04:45 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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You don't have to be a dick man. All I was saying is I know the concept of adding shit to prevent clumping, but I didnt. I don't have a clumping problem and if I did I'd just shake the fuckin syringe. My only concern was if the spores where going to stick to the syringe walls and not come out. That's all.
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Ill-bird]
#15653789 - 01/12/12 04:47 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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You should watch your attitude. You're the one with the bad vibes. I'm enlightening your retarded questions and actually working with your unreasonable ass. Show some respect.
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Icesyn]
#15653807 - 01/12/12 04:57 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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I'm not disrespecting anybody here. You say your enlghtening me yet you haven't gave me a simple yes or no to my question. All you did was quote rr syringe prep.
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Icesyn]
#15653812 - 01/12/12 05:00 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Ill-bird said: I'm not disrespecting anybody here. You say your enlghtening me yet you haven't gave me a simple yes or no to my question. All you did was quote rr syringe prep.
I didn't quote shit for you.
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Ill-bird said: BINGO!! I left them in the syringe for 24 hours before use. Maybe they weren't fully hydrated...idk
Don't be a tard, I obviously helped you there.
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Icesyn said: You're obviously referring to RR's methods. Why don't you go back to that and figure out yourself.
I have his voice stuck in my head on syringe preparation. Pay attention.
That would mean go back to your sources. But if you want to be lazy about it, NO! You don't need lube. Raw dog.
Edited by Icesyn (01/12/12 05:07 AM)
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Icesyn]
#15653816 - 01/12/12 05:04 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Icesyn i think you're being a tad bit harsh on the guy for no reason, perhaps tone it down a bit.
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: semaphore]
#15653818 - 01/12/12 05:06 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Duly noted. Thanks.
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Icesyn]
#15653820 - 01/12/12 05:08 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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On a side note here are some of the transkei trays i grew last year
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: semaphore]
#15653823 - 01/12/12 05:09 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: semaphore]
#15653826 - 01/12/12 05:11 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Th-thtop it!
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Freakdaddy]
#15653848 - 01/12/12 05:37 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Sorry guys I didn't know my question would cause any troubles. Anyways thank you everyone for your input. I really appreciate it. @ semaphore very nice trays by the way. They look very appetizing indeed!!
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Icesyn]
#15654049 - 01/12/12 07:24 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Ill-bird said: I thought south Africans were supposed to be aggressive.
That's racist. 
95% of South Africa is white
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Is the violence that we do to ourselves
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semaphore



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Your stats are flawed,I live in sa
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I don't think so.
79.4% Black 9.2% White 11.4% Other
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Icesyn]
#15654287 - 01/12/12 09:01 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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That graph is racist. What do they mean by "colored"? And I guess it's just a coincidence that Asians are indicated by yellow.
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Dragonaut]
#15654397 - 01/12/12 09:36 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Just an FYI, in South Africa "Coloured" is a widely accepted term. Without going into too much detail it means mixed (part European and part tribal African). The primary language of Coloureds is Afrikaans, which derives from Dutch. I just thought I would throw that out there since colored in the US has a different meaning than in South Africa.
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stoned2676 said: Just an FYI, in South Africa "Coloured" is a widely accepted term. Without going into too much detail it means mixed (part European and part tribal African). The primary language of Coloureds is Afrikaans, which derives from Dutch. I just thought I would throw that out there since colored in the US has a different meaning than in South Africa.
Coloreds here in Sa are usually a mixture of black and white or whites that bred with the Hot nots
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: semaphore]
#15654528 - 01/12/12 10:16 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Thanks for the clarification.
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: semaphore]
#15654649 - 01/12/12 10:52 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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semaphore said: Your stats are flawed,I live in sa
DC
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Is the violence that we do to ourselves
When we are too afraid to be, who we really are.
 
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Demonic_Chronic said:
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semaphore said: Your stats are flawed,I live in sa
DC
If so, don't quit your day job.
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: Icesyn]
#15654668 - 01/12/12 10:58 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Icesyn said:
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Demonic_Chronic said:
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semaphore said: Your stats are flawed,I live in sa
DC
If so, don't quit your day job.
Nah not gunna lie, i honestly thought SA was predominantly white. Thanks for helping me see otherwise, honestly.
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Re: South African Transkei [Re: semaphore]
#24538591 - 08/08/17 06:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I waited 5 weeks for signs of growth from a 5 year old print
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Yeah, it prolly ain't happening. Maybe try the rubberband trick to force hydrate the spores then drop on agar. Otherwise get another print.
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Triggered yet?
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Sorry I didn't clarify on the fact that it did work It took 5 weeks for the first signs of life.
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OriginalGinger said: Sorry I didn't clarify on the fact that it did work It took 5 weeks for the first signs of life.
I know it’s an old thread but let’s see if anyone is currently working with or experienced SATs as I don’t see much on them.
Mine are taking forever to colonize.
Edited by PancyanterA (02/17/24 08:17 AM)
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