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My first monotub pin porn! * 1
    #15644154 - 01/10/12 08:52 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)



It's been a long time coming!  Rye Berries inoculated with Cambodian LC on 10/27.  Spawned to 50/50 coir on 12/12.  Put into fruiting conditions on 12/24. 



I'll post more as they develop.

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie] * 1
    #15644159 - 01/10/12 08:54 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: tripdawg420]
    #15644314 - 01/10/12 10:07 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Shroom_Goon]
    #15648787 - 01/11/12 05:56 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)



This weekend is going to be amazing!  I hate it when they grow at different rates!  I see new pins every day.  How do I know when to dunk?  Should I pick the ones that are ready on a daily basis until all the pins have grown up?

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
    #15648812 - 01/11/12 06:10 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

With MS you often get uneven pinsets, with different rates of maturity. You could pick as they mature, or wait til they are all matured and pick all at once(within reason you don't want them rotting). If you wait to pick them all at once, you will end up with a spore mess most likely. Pros and cons to both strategies. If you pick as they mature, it can be hard to know when to dunk because you have staggered flushes technically. If you harvest all at once, you would then dunk after the harvest. You have to find what works for you. That being said, it looks awesome! Congrats. :thumbup:

Question: Do you have it under 6500k light?

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
    #15648814 - 01/11/12 06:10 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i pick the ones that are ready on a daily basis.

Dunk when there are no more fruits in the tub, which would be after the first flush is complete.

Next time remember to use a liner under the substrate to prevent side pinning.

Also, not bad for first mono.:thumbup:

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Umeltin]
    #15648859 - 01/11/12 06:36 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, I have a 6500K light 12/12.  I considered using a garbage bag, but then I wondered, why is side pinning a bad thing?  Is it just because they're more difficult to harvest?

Thanks for the thumbs up on the mono.  My second tub is about ready for the fruiting stage.  And yeah, I think I will harvest daily.  Looking at the pics, I'm guessing most of them will be ready for harvesting Saturday/Sunday, yeah?  When you dunk, do you leave the pins alone?  Or do you cut them off?  Also, I was leaning towards cutting the shrooms from the bed, as opposed to twisting and pulling.  I've read enough on this site to make a case for cutting at the base.  If I don't cut off the pins, will they abort after a 12 hour dunk?

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
    #15648934 - 01/11/12 07:15 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

if its just a few pins i just cut them off before the dunk.And side pinning is bad for two reasons. one is it is harder to harvest, and two is if you dont have side pinning the fruits on top will grow more

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Umeltin]
    #15653884 - 01/12/12 05:55 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Bottom pinning can even happen, which can be ridiculous. Cleaning coir/verm from the base is a pain in the ass enough, never mind having to clean the entire length of the fruit body.

Like Umeltin said, not bad for a first tub. Congratulations :thumbup:

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #15653897 - 01/12/12 06:03 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)



I keep waiting for the caps to start to open, but instead they just keep getting bigger!

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
    #15658916 - 01/13/12 04:30 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I LOVE CAMBODIANS.

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #15659010 - 01/13/12 05:35 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

How thick was your sub?

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: underthetable]
    #15659066 - 01/13/12 06:05 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

My sub was a little over 4 inches.  I do not look forward to harvesting all the side pinners!  I figure the only way I can do it is to tip the sub out onto a bucket and pick the sides, then put a plastic bag around it, like I should have to begin with.

Anyway, on with the daily pin porn!



Seems like only 2 veils broke in the night.  I'm guessing I'll need to pick those tonight.  Hopefully, I should have a few more veils break while I'm at work and can consequentially, not have to trip alone tonight.  Or, just wait until tomorrow!

So, seems the best way (according to RR and others) to harvest a mono is to cut, not twist and pull.  What would I use to cut?  I have an exacto knife, but the blade isn't even an inch long.  Seems it would go faster with a steak knife or a big pair of scissors.  How do you guys clear your dense forests?

Oh, and is it better to have your shrooms short and fat like mine or tall and thin?  How do my shrooms rate?

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
    #15660586 - 01/13/12 12:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

4 your cutting Q:

when my fruits grow in real close proximity i sometimes use 4 lb test fishing line to loop around the base of the stem,with finger/thumb on the opposing side an pull through,for myself ive found that 4lb works great,holds a good loop, lighter tests just seem to be too flimsy kinda like threads,an a lil harder to come across.lower test line are commonly used for ice/fly fishing so an outfitter/bait shop store would be the place to look..


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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: cubes4cancer]
    #15660865 - 01/13/12 01:24 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Those look VERY healthy!!! Well done for your first tub!!


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~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Umeltin]
    #15660965 - 01/13/12 01:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

What do you mean when you refer to dunking? Up to this point I have only done PF so I'm perplexed as to how the heck your supposed to dunk a bulk setup like this?


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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: TH-E]
    #15660981 - 01/13/12 01:50 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Here's a nice & easy tek on how to dunk a mono.
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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: TH-E]
    #15660989 - 01/13/12 01:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

After each flush, you're supposed to fill the tub with water while keeping the substrate held down by a weight or wooden dowels through the lower holes.  Dunk from 4-12 hours.  Should keep the water running a bit to avoid stagnation.  At the end of the dunk, tip the tub over and drain the water while keeping your substrate in place. 

I think I'll introduce the garbage bag liner to my mono after the 1st dunk.

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
    #15660999 - 01/13/12 01:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

:jawdrop: Where'd you here 4-12 hours for a monotub!?
4 hours is the maximum for a monotub.


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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #15661014 - 01/13/12 01:57 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I've seen difference result from all my reading on this forum.  Just like when someone says to put your mono in the dark and colonize for 10 days.  It's not accurate info, but it's widespread.  I plan on dunking mine for only 4 hours.  I'm more concerned with knowing when to dunk.  I don't think my mono is going to dry out anytime soon.  I don't mist more than twice a day, but I can't help but feel that it's waterlogged.  I can't really back it up, since my shrooms apparently look alright.

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
    #15661018 - 01/13/12 01:58 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You can tell if it's too dry or water logged by picking it up.
If it feels heavier than when you spawned to it, cut back on the misting.
If it's really light, then drunk time it is.
You can dunk pins for 4 hours. They'll survive.


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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #15661034 - 01/13/12 02:03 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

How do you know when it's pin and when it's something else?



Which of these shrooms are pins?  What do I cut off before dunking?  What do I leave?

And yeah, it feels heavy, but I don't see any pooling underneath.

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
    #15661045 - 01/13/12 02:06 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

The ones where the veil is already torn are definitely ready to pick.
You harvest just before the veil breaks for maximum potency.
Looks like you've got an uneven growth going on there, just due to genetics.
Harvest all at once are as they're ready. Once they're done, then dunk.
Sometimes you don't even have an opportunity to dunk, because the mushis won't stop coming.


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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #15661067 - 01/13/12 02:10 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

That's what I'm afraid of.  Something tells me that I'll be harvesting every day.  But I need to get the sub out so I can get the pesky side-pinners!  My question was, which shrooms in the pic I last posted are small enough to be considered a "pin"?  One or Two?  12-15 of them?  I don't know what constitutes a pin.  So, to be safe, I have shaved them all off before a dunk in the past.

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
    #15661171 - 01/13/12 02:34 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'd say all the grouped babies are still considered pins with the parents standing up above them. However, looking at your tub, you can let them grow and harvest before dunking still.

You have a little while before you need to dunk i'd say..


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I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: slapphappypill]
    #15661201 - 01/13/12 02:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Oh, I know.  I was just wondering if 1/2" was still a pin or not.  I don't think I'll be dunking this for another week.

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
    #15661425 - 01/13/12 03:31 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I still consider it a pin if I think it's dunkable :bigjoint:


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~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
    #15661780 - 01/13/12 05:13 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Don't cut them, twist them gently until they break loose. This can obviously be more difficult with clusters, or families of shrooms.

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: shamanheart]
    #15661824 - 01/13/12 05:26 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Did you use a humidification device?

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: shamanheart]
    #15661947 - 01/13/12 06:00 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Don't cut them, twist them gently until they break loose. This can obviously be more difficult with clusters, or families of shrooms.




You should not do this it tears up your substrate. Cut them.


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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: shroomerite]
    #15663177 - 01/13/12 11:08 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Cutting them is better. Cut close to the substrate. The stumps will not rot. Last night i saw a picture of pins sprouting from a stump. All the substrate you tear up when you twist will have no new growth. Plus you're damaging and weakening the mycelial network, possibly allowing contamination to settle where the damage is.

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
    #15663255 - 01/13/12 11:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Cut them man.
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Harvest by slicing off the fruits at the base with a sharp knife.RR




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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: undeadninja2]
    #15664047 - 01/14/12 05:54 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Did you use a humidification device?



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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: undeadninja2]
    #15672510 - 01/16/12 06:11 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)



Okay, first off, yeah, I have a warm mist humidifier in the room to keep the rh to a decent level.  So, there's that.

The first pic is of Friday nights sampling.  I believe it was 147 grams wet.  Of that, I had 44 grams, and two other people had 35 grams each.  The remainder was put in the dehydrator.

Pic 2 and 3 were of the tub after I harvested at the end of Friday night, which was 50.6 grams.  I harvested again Saturday morning, Saturday night, and a bit Sunday morning.  The total dry weight (not including the small amount for Sunday (which has not reached the 24 hour period yet) was 88.8 grams.  We ate 11.4, so that leaves 77.4 dry grams, pictured in the last shot.

Then, tragedy struck!  I wanted to put a liner around the base to eliminate future side pinners.  So, I tipped the sub down on a bucket so I could wrap it in a bag, but it broke.  Then I lined the tub, but the bag was too small!  As I was trying to put the sub in the tub, it broke more!  Then, since I didn't have any dowels, I tried weighing it down, but nothing was heavy enough.  The sub just kept floating, and every time I tried to push the sub down, it disintegrated more!  So, bitching and swearing, I accepted defeat and threw away my one flush wonder!  I don't know why I feel like a failure.  I was able to harvest over 3 ounces from a single flush, so I should feel pretty good.  Good thing I had tub number 2 consolidating in the closet!  So, 2 or 3 weeks later, I'll be ready for next tub.

This time, I wrapped the outside of the tub in black plastic and I bought some wooden dowels last night to keep the sub submerged.

All in all, I would consider this a great success, compared to my last measly picking from my 12 cakes.

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
    #15673490 - 01/16/12 12:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

In retrospect, I probably should have taken the broken sub and crumbled it in a liner in the same tub.  Eh.  At least I had a second tub that was waiting in the wings.

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
    #15674394 - 01/16/12 04:19 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

3 oz for a first flush isn't bad at all imo, I'm still only getting 1-2 oz flushes as I need to bring my substrate depth higher and bag the bottom of my sub. I'll be fixing my issues after I move which is good, but for now I'm happy with what I get.

Nice pics and good grow man, live and learn and then better yourself :jah:

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I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~

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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: slapphappypill]
    #15674448 - 01/16/12 04:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It was not a failure. You got 3 oz's and you learned from it. You're working towards improving your technique.

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