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TranscendingLife
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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
#15661018 - 01/13/12 01:58 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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You can tell if it's too dry or water logged by picking it up. If it feels heavier than when you spawned to it, cut back on the misting. If it's really light, then drunk time it is. You can dunk pins for 4 hours. They'll survive.
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Bluemookie
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How do you know when it's pin and when it's something else?

Which of these shrooms are pins? What do I cut off before dunking? What do I leave?
And yeah, it feels heavy, but I don't see any pooling underneath.
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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
#15661045 - 01/13/12 02:06 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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The ones where the veil is already torn are definitely ready to pick. You harvest just before the veil breaks for maximum potency. Looks like you've got an uneven growth going on there, just due to genetics. Harvest all at once are as they're ready. Once they're done, then dunk. Sometimes you don't even have an opportunity to dunk, because the mushis won't stop coming.
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That's what I'm afraid of. Something tells me that I'll be harvesting every day. But I need to get the sub out so I can get the pesky side-pinners! My question was, which shrooms in the pic I last posted are small enough to be considered a "pin"? One or Two? 12-15 of them? I don't know what constitutes a pin. So, to be safe, I have shaved them all off before a dunk in the past.
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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
#15661171 - 01/13/12 02:34 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd say all the grouped babies are still considered pins with the parents standing up above them. However, looking at your tub, you can let them grow and harvest before dunking still.
You have a little while before you need to dunk i'd say..
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Bluemookie
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Oh, I know. I was just wondering if 1/2" was still a pin or not. I don't think I'll be dunking this for another week.
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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
#15661425 - 01/13/12 03:31 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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I still consider it a pin if I think it's dunkable
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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
#15661780 - 01/13/12 05:13 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Don't cut them, twist them gently until they break loose. This can obviously be more difficult with clusters, or families of shrooms.
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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: shamanheart]
#15661824 - 01/13/12 05:26 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Did you use a humidification device?
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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: shamanheart]
#15661947 - 01/13/12 06:00 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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shamanheart said: Don't cut them, twist them gently until they break loose. This can obviously be more difficult with clusters, or families of shrooms.
You should not do this it tears up your substrate. Cut them.
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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: shroomerite]
#15663177 - 01/13/12 11:08 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cutting them is better. Cut close to the substrate. The stumps will not rot. Last night i saw a picture of pins sprouting from a stump. All the substrate you tear up when you twist will have no new growth. Plus you're damaging and weakening the mycelial network, possibly allowing contamination to settle where the damage is.
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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
#15663255 - 01/13/12 11:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cut them man.
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RogerRabbit said: Harvest by slicing off the fruits at the base with a sharp knife.RR
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undeadninja2 said: Did you use a humidification device?
Bump. Humidifier
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Bluemookie
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Okay, first off, yeah, I have a warm mist humidifier in the room to keep the rh to a decent level. So, there's that.
The first pic is of Friday nights sampling. I believe it was 147 grams wet. Of that, I had 44 grams, and two other people had 35 grams each. The remainder was put in the dehydrator.
Pic 2 and 3 were of the tub after I harvested at the end of Friday night, which was 50.6 grams. I harvested again Saturday morning, Saturday night, and a bit Sunday morning. The total dry weight (not including the small amount for Sunday (which has not reached the 24 hour period yet) was 88.8 grams. We ate 11.4, so that leaves 77.4 dry grams, pictured in the last shot.
Then, tragedy struck! I wanted to put a liner around the base to eliminate future side pinners. So, I tipped the sub down on a bucket so I could wrap it in a bag, but it broke. Then I lined the tub, but the bag was too small! As I was trying to put the sub in the tub, it broke more! Then, since I didn't have any dowels, I tried weighing it down, but nothing was heavy enough. The sub just kept floating, and every time I tried to push the sub down, it disintegrated more! So, bitching and swearing, I accepted defeat and threw away my one flush wonder! I don't know why I feel like a failure. I was able to harvest over 3 ounces from a single flush, so I should feel pretty good. Good thing I had tub number 2 consolidating in the closet! So, 2 or 3 weeks later, I'll be ready for next tub.
This time, I wrapped the outside of the tub in black plastic and I bought some wooden dowels last night to keep the sub submerged.
All in all, I would consider this a great success, compared to my last measly picking from my 12 cakes.
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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
#15673490 - 01/16/12 12:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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In retrospect, I probably should have taken the broken sub and crumbled it in a liner in the same tub. Eh. At least I had a second tub that was waiting in the wings.
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Re: My first monotub pin porn! [Re: Bluemookie]
#15674394 - 01/16/12 04:19 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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3 oz for a first flush isn't bad at all imo, I'm still only getting 1-2 oz flushes as I need to bring my substrate depth higher and bag the bottom of my sub. I'll be fixing my issues after I move which is good, but for now I'm happy with what I get.
Nice pics and good grow man, live and learn and then better yourself 
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It was not a failure. You got 3 oz's and you learned from it. You're working towards improving your technique.
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