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Offlinehighoman
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    #1564033 - 05/20/03 10:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I am looking for some advise on some good jazz to download. i like karl denson and mmw. they are not what ya call classic jazz but love em. new jazz, old jazz, love the sax. any recomendations would be grately appreciated.


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Re: jazz [Re: highoman]
    #1564071 - 05/20/03 10:41 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: jazz [Re: highoman]
    #1564097 - 05/20/03 10:52 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Jazz is a huge genre, much like rock and roll, so there is a lot to choose from. Myself, I favor stuff from the late 20s through the mid-60s. May I suggest...

Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespe, John Coltrane, Ornet Colemen, Charles Mingus, Billie Holliday, Coleman Hawkins, Miles Davis, just to name a very, very, few... :cool:

Also, in the more swinging sixties, cocktail, smooth music, make out with j0 w0m4n, jazz, I would suggest, Stan Getz, Dave Brubeck, Antonio Carlos Jobim, Astrud Gilberto, and any of the other Bossa Nova gods... :cool:

If you are looking for a strange retro-ironic combination of cooled-out 50s jazz, and the poetry of Jack Kerouac, and Lord Buckley, then I suggest looking into the 1970s recordings by Tom Waits! :cool:

Also, afoaf also knows a thing or two about jazz. However, he seems to be living under the delusion that jazz made after 1965 is still relavent... :grin:

Again, excuse all my many mispellings in this thread...

*hic* :crazy:

My spelling may be off, but I'm a tad tipsy... :wink:


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Re: jazz [Re: highoman]
    #1564108 - 05/20/03 10:55 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

My God! I can't believe I forgot to mention the very mother-fucking-founding-forefathers of "modern" jazz, Louis "Sachmo" Armstrong and Duke Ellington!

Definitely check those mo'fos out! :cool: :cool:


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Re: jazz [Re: Papaver]
    #1564294 - 05/20/03 11:54 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

if you like mmw and denson, aside from those mentioned by pap, check out:

greyboy allstars
galactic
tortoise
charlie hunter (the LP 'headhunter' is one of my favs ever)
garage a trois
pat metheny
jon scofield
al di meola
the word


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Re: jazz [Re: PeachMan]
    #1564439 - 05/21/03 12:38 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Thelonious Monk is my favorite Jazz musician. He trips me out everytime i listen to him.


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Re: jazz [Re: thestringphish]
    #1564530 - 05/21/03 12:59 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, definately! The Monkster is da bomb! :cool:


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Re: jazz [Re: highoman]
    #1564895 - 05/21/03 03:17 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

John Cleary - i can't remember but a really good new orleans jazz group
Dirty Dozen Brass Band - ALL BRASS and a Badass saxist
Ray's Music Exchange - psychidelic jazz, journey-like jazz
Bela Fleck and the Flecktones -BAD ASS SAXIST in band
Dave Brubeck -AWSOME SAX player in band
Kermit Ruffins
Dr. Michael White
Headhunters


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Re: jazz [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1564970 - 05/21/03 04:34 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

> Dave Brubeck -AWSOME SAX player in band

Paul Desmond


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Re: jazz [Re: highoman]
    #1564983 - 05/21/03 04:42 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

John Coltrane and Miles Davis

These guys will melt your brain into a puddle. :cool: 


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Re: jazz [Re: chinacat72]
    #1565082 - 05/21/03 08:01 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)


If you don't have this one get it, probably the single best jazz album ever created.



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Re: jazz [Re: AislingGheal]
    #1565219 - 05/21/03 10:37 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Everyone says that!


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Re: jazz [Re: Adom]
    #1566080 - 05/21/03 03:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Because it's true! :laugh:


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Re: jazz [Re: Papaver]
    #1566212 - 05/21/03 04:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

thank you all for the help. i got me some good smooth jazz, some good loving jazz, and a bunch more coming. ive got some good jazzy kind of stuff like dirty dozen, bela and what not already so im pretty excited about all the older jazz i got coming. is there any good new jazz? more jazz jazz than the jambands? thanks again for all the help guys.


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Re: jazz [Re: Papaver]
    #1566256 - 05/21/03 04:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

meh.

peachman is on to what I like to think
of as the rebirth of jazz...

groups like tortoise, cinematic orchestra,
chicago underground (duo, trio, quartet),
isotope217 and a lot of others that people
call post rock are really more of an amped
up, contemporary jazz experience. well, tortoise
kind of teeters on the edge of jazziness, rock
and IMD, but the latter groups are all very
jazzesque.

some folks will tell you to go and listen to miles
davis and thelonius...and that's cool, but jazz is
so much more vast than that...it is something
that one can take a lifetime exploring.

don't sell yourself short by buying birth of cool
and calling that your jazz collection...

now, I'm not trying to get all sentimental and emotional,
even pretentious, it is just that the term jazz is so
nebulous and used so loosely that many people with a
wide array of interpretations are creating what they would
deem 'jazz'.

what you need to do, if you are truly interested in learning
about the genre is just to download and listen to everything
you can...find the people that you connect with...you may
listen to a recording and not really like the arrangements
but notice that the drummer really strikes your fancy, read
the liner notes, find out his name and see if he has any
solo projects or ensembles that he leads.

It's a very tangental genre...you can go from John Coltrane
to Alice Coltrane to pharoah sanders to Jane Getz to Charles
Lloyd to Jack DeJohnette to Dave Holland....one guy plays
with the other guy who used to have a duo with the dude
who played bass for the other...

I prefer the late sixties and seventies jazz, there is a sense
of upheaval and revolt, politics and angst, even psychedelia.
You can keep your Birth of Cool and Kind of Blue, both are
a little sedate for me. And, personally, anything over a
quartet, maybe a quintet is a little much for me.

Bobby Hutcherson - Patterns
Jackie McLean - One Step Beyond, Destination Out!
Eric Dolphy - Out to Lunch (download god bless the child by dolphy)
Mingus - Live at the Bohemia
Mingus - Cumbia and Jazz Fusion
Niels Henning Oorsted Pederson/Sam Jones - Double Bass
Grachan Moncur III - Aco dei de madrugada
Grachan Moncur III - New Africa
Herbie Hancock - Headhunters

some good contemporary and classic artists to scope out:

tortoise
isotope217
chicago underground
cinematic orchestra
keith jarret
jack dejohnette
grant green
kenny burrell
jim hall
anthony braxton
dave holland
don cherry

the list goes on and on...




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Re: jazz [Re: afoaf]
    #1566287 - 05/21/03 04:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

heh

So, where the hell have you been? :grin:


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Re: jazz [Re: Papaver]
    #1567719 - 05/22/03 12:53 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)


So many of my favorites have been mentioned
I tend bar at a jazz club so I listen to a lot of jazz now..

Some others you may like-
Vince Gauraldi Trio
Soulive
louis prima
lionel hampton
joshua redman
pharoah sanders
mongo santamaria-cloud nine
dean martin
bob dylan- if dogs run free
ella fitzgerald
billy holiday
etta james
cant remember any moe right now
enjoy
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Re: jazz [Re: MrBump]
    #1568008 - 05/22/03 02:29 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, there's some mighty great ones on that list! :cool:


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Re: jazz [Re: Papaver]
    #1568329 - 05/22/03 06:12 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

jimmy smith and wes montgomery. especially the collaboration between the two(james and wes). The 1995 cover of "Papa's got a brand new bag" by jimmy smith is smokkkking!!!


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Re: jazz [Re: highoman]
    #1568359 - 05/22/03 06:34 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Personally I don't think you can beat Miles Davis. I know that's what everyone says, but there's a reason for it - just like the Beatles are regarded by everyone as the best band ever, Davis just had something about him.

He's just got such a huge range, and all of such high quality.

For ultra chilled-out, ambient jazz check out In a Silent Way.
For more up-tempo, hard bop feel try Milestones (a current favourite of mine).
For trippy, proggy jazz fusion try Bitches Brew.
For great orchestral arrangememnts with Gill Evans, Porgy and Bess.

I know there's so many, but those are a few of the finest. Some of the quintet albums he did with Coultrane are really good; there's four I think, Cookin' with the Miles Davis Quintet, Relaxin' with, Steamin' with and one other I can't think of.

Recently I've been listening to Bill Evans (the pianist on Kind of Blue). He was really original; classically trained so he brought a different sound. He died of cancer in 1980, but played live till the last with his trio. There's recordings out recently of some of his last concerts, called the Last Waltz, when he knew he had only days to live, and the playing on them is absolutely phenomenal. I'd really recommend them to anyone whos interested in jazz.

But shit, you can't not listen to Mingus, Monk, Coultrane and the rest... get onto Kazaa or down your local library unless you're a rich bastard!


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