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8 day 2nd flush no pins
    #15635197 - 01/08/12 02:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I have pe and creepers in a martha style closet. They were transfered from mono tubs after 1st flush. It has been 8 days with no pins yet. So I am wondering if something is wrong. It only took 7 days to pin for 1st flush. Here is my set up...

1. martha style closet
2. humidity controler that keeps RH between 90% and 97% when fans come on humidity drops to 70%
3. 2 computer fans that come on 5 time in a 24 hour period for 15 mins each time
4. 2 coolmist humidifiers

Here are pics of my cakes and set up...



1st pic showes 1 of the fans in the top left the other is in the back on the right.

2nd pic just showes closet straight on.

3rd pic showes humidity controller at 97% where it stays most of the time.

4th pic is pe

5th is creepers


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: modsolution]
    #15635953 - 01/08/12 05:17 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Id wait till the two week mark and if. Nothin is start over

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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: smitty5606]
    #15636245 - 01/08/12 06:21 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I forgot to mention I mist 3 times a day. But the sub looks dry when I mist. So I think I am getting plenty of FAE. I will start  misting 5 times a day and see what happens.


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: modsolution]
    #15636302 - 01/08/12 06:34 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Did you soak them?


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: Kizzle]
    #15636410 - 01/08/12 06:57 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

oh yea I did a 4 hour soak


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: Kizzle]
    #15637198 - 01/08/12 09:54 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

yes i soaked for 4 hours


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: modsolution]
    #15637326 - 01/08/12 10:34 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Cool setup bud.


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: Habadashery]
    #15637640 - 01/08/12 11:31 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know then. Maybe they're spent. Those subs don't look very thick. I've gotten only 1 flush before after spreading the substrate out into a thin layer. Or maybe bacteria has taken over :shrug: You should see something soon if it's going to put out anything else.


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: Kizzle]
    #15639345 - 01/09/12 10:40 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Kizzle thanks for the help you seem like the only one willing to offer up any help on this matter and it is greatly appreciated!! The sub for the pe is at 2 3/4" and the creeper is at 3"  I think this should be more than enough to get a 2nd flush. And I dont see any contams. I am just worried that there is something wrong with the martha environment. I have 3 trays of pe and 3 trays of creepers that will be ready to be birthed in about 5 days. I am going to give them a few more days. Then when I birth the new trays I put them back into the mono tubs just in case there are contames on the old cakes and see where it goes from there.


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: Habadashery]
    #15639373 - 01/09/12 10:51 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Habadashery

Thanks for the comment in total it cost me about $120 to set up like  this but it will be well worth it if all works out well. The most  expensive part was the humidity controller which was $50 and is extremely accurate. So far anyway. I did the salt test and it came up to be 76% RH which I am very pleased with.


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: modsolution]
    #15642024 - 01/09/12 07:50 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I waited until last night to dunk my cakes after first flush, left them submerged overnight. I suspect it will take a few days for the mycelium to recover, plus I need to get a light, as ambient room light is not cutting it.

Message to you and to myself:  be patient.


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: 2 cats freckles]
    #15642484 - 01/09/12 09:23 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You'll want to wrap the humidity probe in some thin cloth. This will help keep condensation from building up directly on the probe, and keep spores out of it. It will slow it's response some, but it should be okay if you've got good internal air circulation.


I run a single small fan in my martha that is on constantly for air circulation. The only source of FAE is from the cool-mist pipped in from the outside. You might be running it a little to dry with all that air?


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: FunnyLight]
    #15648395 - 01/11/12 01:53 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

FunnyLight

Thanks for the input I was thinking the same thing  with the fan. I am going to cut back to one fan coming on at 12 am and 12 pm and see how that works out. what can I say I'm  still figuring out this martha closet.


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: modsolution]
    #15648423 - 01/11/12 02:04 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe just have the fans blow for shorter periods of time. It could be that they are turning on, quickly lowering the humidity and then drying them out. Then they shut of and the humidity comes back up but the moisture the fans evaporated from the substrate wouldn't return just by being in a humid environment,  it's only being returned when you mist and dunk.

Come to think of it you shouldn't need the fans in the first place with humidifiers. Were you losing too much humidity having them pull in air from the outside?


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: Kizzle]
    #15654006 - 01/12/12 07:02 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It was going down to i think 65% RH for the 15 mins the fans were on i have since removed the fans we'll see how it goes like this.

Thanks for all the help


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: modsolution]
    #15654059 - 01/12/12 07:28 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Put the fan on 5V not 12V. old charger or smth.


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: psy.shrooms]
    #15656274 - 01/12/12 04:23 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ill just hook up a light dimmer to the fan, if i am not getting enough FAE, so i can adjust the speed of the fan.


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: modsolution]
    #15656289 - 01/12/12 04:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

1 more question for you gentlemen. Should i be misting uncased substraight in this setup. I just put one in and im unsure weather i need to mist or not?


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: modsolution]
    #15656510 - 01/12/12 05:25 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Just to clarify about the dimmer on the fans. I have taken out the fans so if im not getting enough FAE. I will hook up a dimmer and put the fans back in so i can adjust the speed of the fans.


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: modsolution]
    #15656686 - 01/12/12 06:09 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You seem to have all your ducks in a row. Good job. I have used a similar setup, and can agree that the fans aren't necessary. Also, humidity can drop below the optimal range and still produce prolific pin sets. For that size, one cool mist and one ultrasonic is more than enough. Patience here is key. Can take up to two weeks to pin on second flush, especially if first was heavy. Great work so far!

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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: shamanheart]
    #15656993 - 01/12/12 07:22 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I really dont know what heavy is but i got over two ounces dry on 1st flush. I think that is average.


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: modsolution]
    #15661459 - 01/13/12 03:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'd say that's slightly above average. Just be patient.

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    #15661468 - 01/13/12 03:48 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: flameclown] * 1
    #15661928 - 01/13/12 05:56 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Im going to wait r more week i have 2 new trays that are in now.

So what exactly am i looking for when i cut it open if they dont fruit?


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: flameclown]
    #15663707 - 01/14/12 02:06 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You didn't pick all the pins when you harvested the first flush did you?


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: Kizzle]
    #15665642 - 01/14/12 02:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

yea i picked all the pins because they were all aborts here's a pic of the aborts when I picked them.



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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: flameclown]
    #15665663 - 01/14/12 02:32 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Here's a pic of the sub after I cut it down the middle...



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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: modsolution]
    #15671802 - 01/15/12 11:28 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: modsolution]
    #15672062 - 01/16/12 01:22 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think it was contaminated. How dry is it right now?


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: Kizzle]
    #15674380 - 01/16/12 04:15 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It has been sitting out for 2 or 3 days so it is fairly dry. Should i mist and try putting it back in the FC.


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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: modsolution]
    #15674459 - 01/16/12 04:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Why did you leave it sitting out for 2-3 days? I'd probably cut my losses at this point. You got 1 flush at least.

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Re: 8 day 2nd flush no pins [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #15674789 - 01/16/12 05:56 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

That was the plan to just cut my loses. I left it out because it was so wet. I thought that may be the reason it was not fruiting. And i thought it might have bacterial contamination so i took it out until i could find out for sure


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