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wildernessjunkie
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TacoHerder said:
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wildernessjunkie said: Results are in:
The Filter Test
nice, well done test experiment.
Thinking of doing it again with:
Tyvek Envelopes Tyvek Coveralls Poly-fil Coffee Filters
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tripdawg420
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sounds like a plan to me nice work
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Inocuole
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IMO don't even bother with the coffee filters. We know those aren't suitable. Coffee goes through them. Why wouldn't EVERYTHING else?
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TranscendingLife
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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Inocuole]
#15629878 - 01/07/12 12:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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coffee filters have no place on top of a jar. Save them & use them for your coffee.
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wildernessjunkie
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I agree. But I still see posts where people are putting coffee filters on the jar. It just one more variable that can be introduced and then dis-proven.
The only thing I stand to lose is a bit of agar, and a little time.
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TranscendingLife
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I wouldn't even waste your time with it. It's not worth it. You can look at a coffee filter w/ a microscope & see the holes.
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      How I Do EVERYTHING      "Your vision will become clear only when you can look into your own heart…. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes."- Carl Jung "Anything that can be done chemically can be done by other means."- William S. Burroughs "You are as dead now as you will ever be" - Seth
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Inocuole
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^ This, dude.
Laboring over facts that have already been proven is a futile task, and a waste of time.
It's also a sign of insanity. Ya ain't crazy, are ye?
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TranscendingLife
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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Inocuole]
#15633176 - 01/08/12 01:24 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, we're not crazy, but... Growing mushrooms does make you Gay. O well...
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TranscendingLife said: Well, we're not crazy, but... Growing mushrooms does make you Gay. O well...
You must grow alot of mushrooms then...
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Inocuole
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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: total]
#15634325 - 01/08/12 10:35 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I thought it was eating mushrooms that made you gay? Growing them just taught me that patience and hard work are the only things that pay off.
I guess I'll do a few more tubs and then buy me some pants to accentuate my supple man-ass.
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Sparkit
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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Inocuole]
#15634404 - 01/08/12 10:58 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Great tek man! Super clean. Your craftsmanship is sick!
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Hartge
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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Sparkit]
#15634566 - 01/08/12 11:45 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Great tek, I definitely plan to use this for all my filtering applications, it just looks great.
I did notice that some people have preference of the type/color of silicone they might use as an adhesive so I thought I would weigh in a little bit.
Permatex is the brand I would use, RTV silicone, now the 3 colors they carry have max temperatures of:
Clear: 400 F (204 C) Black: 450 F (232 C) Red: 600 F (315 C)
** Since I did not look up other brands of RTV I can only assume the max temp. of other RTVs of the same color but by a different maker would be around the same **
Given that information, using clear is just fine, and as OP demonstrates, it comes out looking very clean.
I appreciate the time you've put into this tek (and everyone else that has posted their teks on this suject).
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Hartge
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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Hartge]
#15664697 - 01/14/12 10:37 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just got my EZ Felt today in the mail (none of my local stores carried it). I got 12 sheets for about $0.99 each with $3.00 shipping or so, not too shabby for how many filters that is going to make.
Here is my template for my first sheet, I am sure I can consolidate a little better and get a few more quarter size (GE) disc out of each sheet.

1 sheet has produced 15 lid size discs and 43 quarter size discs, not bad for $0.99 which is usually the cost of a single SFD.
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Bacchus
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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Hartge]
#15666222 - 01/14/12 04:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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My local craft store stocks "stiffened felt," but not any of the brands so far discussed. The felt looks basically useless for filtration. The thickness varies wildly across the surface, and the thin spots appear to be far too thin to be of any protection. You can almost read through this stuff.
The brand: 
Held against a light: 
I've started an experiment to test it's effectiveness. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15666342
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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Bacchus]
#15724615 - 01/27/12 11:12 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anyone use the Creatology stuff from Michael's?
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SomeGuy
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TranscendingLife said: coffee filters have no place on top of a jar. Save them & use them for your coffee.
I put coffee filter over my pf tek jars in the summer, it keeps the mushroom flies from getting in there and ruining them. It only takes one case of maggots in a ruined jar to see that it works. It doesn't do anything as far` as a filter goes, though
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total
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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: SomeGuy]
#15724736 - 01/27/12 11:50 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mushroom Flies? Maggots? 
You shouldnt ever have maggots in your pf jars... Either you have huge holes that a regular house fly can enter in your jars, or your sterile procedure is bad 
Maybe your thinking of fungus gnats? These things live in your house plants soil, and rarely cause any concern...
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Base Icks said: Anyone use the Creatology stuff from Michael's?
 Im glad your finally home!
Edited by total (01/27/12 11:52 AM)
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SomeGuy
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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: total]
#15724758 - 01/27/12 11:55 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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total
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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: SomeGuy]
#15724819 - 01/27/12 12:14 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Allow me to quote a few things from the links you provided...
Link #1
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resistol said: I put some wild caps that I found on top of my rice cakes for a few hours to let them drop some spores onto the cakes... Now a few days later, I see worms EVERYWHERE in the cakes. The jars are about half white, but now they have little wiggly bugs in them - what should I do? Is there a way to get them out before I move the cakes to the grow chamber? Thanks in advance!
So he simply puts a wild cap ontop of a cake...? Where is the sterile procedure in that?
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ThePheonix said: I knocked up some jars a week or two ago. I went to look at them a week later and there were literally hundreds maybe thousands of worms crawling in one of the jars. I used a homemade syringe of multispore and micropore tape over holes, its brf.
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ThePheonix said: There was no mycelium only worms. I have had success with thousands of pf jars and some bulk trays with casings. I used micropore during the steaming, 90 mins, then applied fresh micropore after innoc.
Im willing to bet, also bad sterile procedure... Steaming works, but is iffy at best... Hell, he says he got NO mycelium growth... Prob improperly made syringe, or shitty vendor...
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redrum187 said: my jars are set up with 2 holes in the lid, one just larger than the needles i use for innoc and one for GE with a sheet of tyvec between the opening of the jar and the lid.... the innoc holes i cover with electrical tape immediately after i pull the needle out, but that had to be where the problem happened i imagine either that or i have some crazy ass mutant gnats/flies that can lay eggs through tyvek o.O lets hope thats not the case
Op used a PC, good for him... But uses electrical tape?  Flys cant penetrate tyvek...i know this...ive used it for 8 years... Im willing to bet my myco-job that once again, "Improper sterile procedure"
So in all cases, it just appears to be improper sterile procedure at one point or another... A coffee filter doesnt really "filter" what we try to bro...
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SomeGuy
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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: total]
#15724858 - 01/27/12 12:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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well, I just searched for "maggots in pf cake" and then linked a few, without reading them. I know I've had maggots in my jars before, was it from the print or was it from them crawling in there? I can't say. Sure tyvek keeps the bugs out, but on pf jars, the verm is your filter, and the flies can burrow through that and have contaminants on thier body/open holes up in the vermiculite and ruin a cake. I haven't seen another maggot in my jar since I put a coffee filter over it.
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