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OfflinejayfromtheSE
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Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business
    #15629461 - 01/07/12 10:47 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Ron Paul & Occupy Wall Street supporters if you'd like to be hit with 4 minutes of truth, feel free to watch this video:


I know Shroomerians, there is a lot of shit going down at the moment that even we have our knickers in a knot, but it's refreshing hearing so much truth condensed down into 4 minutes, in fact it made me day a whole lot better so I thought I'd share it with you guys, my friends, my mother, my father, my brother, my penpal & the strange awkward guy who lives opposite me.


Does anybody believe that Ron Paul is 'not' the most appropriate candidate for the 2012 elections?, Do we believe that this is filling some new unknown status quo?, Do we think that Ron Pauls(the majour one here) foreign policies are invalid?



(I apologize for the repost but it definitely deserves it.)


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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: jayfromtheSE]
    #15629493 - 01/07/12 10:57 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I believe L. Ron is an ignorant bigoted buffoon who peddles a particularly stupid vision of the world and America's place in it.  He is an isolationist and fiscal moron who believes that ending the Fed and going back to a gold standard will somehow stop jackasses just like him from larding the federal budget with idiotic spending measures to buy votes that ensure his continued parasitic suck from the government tit.

Any fucking questions?


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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: zappaisgod]
    #15629509 - 01/07/12 11:01 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

How is reinstating the gold standard bad?, I do not understand how it would effect currency as it stands.
To your statement about his 'ludicrous' spending cuts are somehow bad, I'm unsure how you can justify this?
Anything that America can do to help get them out of the trillions of dollar deficit that they have is a positive, is it not?


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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: jayfromtheSE]
    #15629656 - 01/07/12 11:38 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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jayfromtheSE said:
How is reinstating the gold standard bad?, I do not understand how it would effect currency as it stands.




I didn't say above that it was bad (although I think it is) I said it was irrelevant to achieve what he says he wants to achieve, which seems to be a diminution of government spending and authority.
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To your statement about his 'ludicrous' spending cuts are somehow bad, I'm unsure how you can justify this?




I can't see where I said that.  What I did say was that he was a fucking phony.
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Anything that America can do to help get them out of the trillions of dollar deficit that they have is a positive, is it not?




Anything?  No.


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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: zappaisgod]
    #15629671 - 01/07/12 11:42 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Since I  have clearly misunderstood the idea(s) you have put forward, could you please elaborate on how you believe he is genuinely not the best candidate.


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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: jayfromtheSE] * 1
    #15629888 - 01/07/12 12:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

His foreign policy is for retards.  It is as if he was born yesterday.  Every fucking country in the world manages its trade and works to influence other nations.  He demands that we do not, which would put us at a huge disadvantage.  That is number one.  Nmber two is that based on his newsletters he is one of two things.  At least one must be true;

1.  He is a reprehensible bigot, which I believe is true.
2.  He is an inept manager, which I also believe is true.

If he endorsed the things printed under his name he is a bigot.  If he did not he is incompetent to run even a simple fucking newsletter.  The man should go back to birthing babies.

I sincerely believe that the only reason he even gets any attention here at all is due to his perceived position on drug laws. 

He is not going to win the nomination, he is not going to be President and he is going to retire and just go the fuck away having accomplished exactly zero as a politician.  Nothing.  He didn't start anything and he didn't stop anything .  He has been utterly useless.


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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: zappaisgod]
    #15630020 - 01/07/12 01:09 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
He has been utterly useless.




Not quite. He has been great at delivering pork projects to his congressional district. He is perhaps the biggest pork junkie currently serving in the House.



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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: Phred]
    #15630068 - 01/07/12 01:19 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I don't consider that useful.


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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: jayfromtheSE]
    #15630512 - 01/07/12 03:01 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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jayfromtheSE said:
How is reinstating the gold standard bad? I do not understand how it would effect currency as it stands.




it's a volatile market, the dollar can soar one day and crash the next

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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: zappaisgod]
    #15630517 - 01/07/12 03:02 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
I don't consider that useful.





you dont live in texas where beef is food and pork is your paycheck

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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: zappaisgod]
    #15630564 - 01/07/12 03:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Wow at the hostility coming from you Zappa. You sound like a belligerent drunk who has no mind of his own. You have to be told what the facts are and that is incredibly sad.

Where is the proof that Ron Paul is actually racist? Newsletters from decades ago which have been proven that they were not written by him? Have you ever agreed to a contract without reading it thoroughly? Plenty of people have and still do on a daily basis and this is the only mistake I have seen Ron Paul ever make. He didn't same mistake again, does that count for anything? Doesn't seem to affect your vote toward Obama that he made many mistakes and even broke many of those beloved promises he made.

You seem very threatened, Zappa. Are you afraid that your assets will no longer hold the value they do once a man like Paul is elected? Face it, you live in a false reality that you have been conditioned to believe is real life. This conditioning has been going on for centuries and people of the future will look back on these days and call you(of all people) a peasant as you do not work to live, you live to work; Just as everyone else in this country does.

Ron Paul is not a vote for change, he is the cry for help for a new (re)revolution which we so desperately need here in America. Your ideas, Zappa, are  egotistical and not of any help in the progression of America or the evolution of humanity.


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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: highdroponics]
    #15630622 - 01/07/12 03:32 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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highdroponics said:
Have you ever agreed to a contract without reading it thoroughly? Plenty of people have and still do on a daily basis 





I've never signed a contract I havent read completely, I've had several that
I was asked to sign under heavy pressure and when I was refused the chance to
take them home and read them at my leisure I rejected the contract and it's
unknown terms. there's absolutely no way I'll enter into a contract in which
I'm not fully informed of the terms, if there's any I dont agree with then I
request a modification and if that cant be done then I opt not to conduct
business with that company or opt to do so without contracts

anyone that doesnt read a contract before signing is a fool

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and this is the only mistake I have seen Ron Paul ever make.




maybe you're only look for what you want to see

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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: highdroponics]
    #15630663 - 01/07/12 03:41 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

highdroponics said:
Wow at the hostility coming from you Zappa. You sound like a belligerent drunk who has no mind of his own. You have to be told what the facts are and that is incredibly sad.

Where is the proof that Ron Paul is actually racist? Newsletters from decades ago which have been proven that they were not written by him? Have you ever agreed to a contract without reading it thoroughly? Plenty of people have and still do on a daily basis and this is the only mistake I have seen Ron Paul ever make. He didn't same mistake again, does that count for anything? Doesn't seem to affect your vote toward Obama that he made many mistakes and even broke many of those beloved promises he made.

You seem very threatened, Zappa. Are you afraid that your assets will no longer hold the value they do once a man like Paul is elected? Face it, you live in a false reality that you have been conditioned to believe is real life. This conditioning has been going on for centuries and people of the future will look back on these days and call you(of all people) a peasant as you do not work to live, you live to work; Just as everyone else in this country does.

Ron Paul is not a vote for change, he is the cry for help for a new (re)revolution which we so desperately need here in America. Your ideas, Zappa, are  egotistical and not of any help in the progression of America or the evolution of humanity.




:lolsy:, you make one hell of an appeal to emotion, with little fact to help your case.


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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: dtowntoker]
    #15630754 - 01/07/12 04:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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dtowntoker said:
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highdroponics said:
Wow at the hostility coming from you Zappa. You sound like a belligerent drunk who has no mind of his own. You have to be told what the facts are and that is incredibly sad.

Where is the proof that Ron Paul is actually racist? Newsletters from decades ago which have been proven that they were not written by him? Have you ever agreed to a contract without reading it thoroughly? Plenty of people have and still do on a daily basis and this is the only mistake I have seen Ron Paul ever make. He didn't same mistake again, does that count for anything? Doesn't seem to affect your vote toward Obama that he made many mistakes and even broke many of those beloved promises he made.

You seem very threatened, Zappa. Are you afraid that your assets will no longer hold the value they do once a man like Paul is elected? Face it, you live in a false reality that you have been conditioned to believe is real life. This conditioning has been going on for centuries and people of the future will look back on these days and call you(of all people) a peasant as you do not work to live, you live to work; Just as everyone else in this country does.

Ron Paul is not a vote for change, he is the cry for help for a new (re)revolution which we so desperately need here in America. Your ideas, Zappa, are  egotistical and not of any help in the progression of America or the evolution of humanity.




:lolsy:, you make one hell of an appeal to emotion, with little fact to help your case.





The same can be said about zappa.  It does appear as if zappa is afraid of Ron Paul, maybe he feels threatened, maybe he got raped by someone from the Paul family :uhoh:.

It is true though, to call Ron Paul a raciat is biggotry yourself,  Ron Paul's the one candidate in this race who argues against racial profiling and fights racist drug laws.  Listen to his thousands of speeches you wont have an easy time finding him saying anything that is actually racist.

Also there seems to be no evidence that the status quo candidates would bring an sort of real change.  Ron Paul is the only one offering real spending cuts and shrinking the size of Government.

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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: skatealex2]
    #15630773 - 01/07/12 04:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

So he signs off on his own news letter saying the LA riots didn't end until the welfare checks were handed out?  But he isn't racist because he is against FEDERAL drug laws, without ever mentioning the actual laws, just that he doesn't like them because it is a federal law?


I'd vote Zappa for president before I wouldn't vote, and I'd rather not vote than vote for Ron Paul.


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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: dtowntoker]
    #15630808 - 01/07/12 04:19 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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dtowntoker said:
So he signs off on his own news letter saying the LA riots didn't end until the welfare checks were handed out?  But he isn't racist because he is against FEDERAL drug laws, without ever mentioning the actual laws, just that he doesn't like them because it is a federal law?


I'd vote Zappa for president before I wouldn't vote, and I'd rather not vote than vote for Ron Paul.





Ron Paul on racist drug laws -


Reality check on the racist news letters -



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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: dtowntoker]
    #15630810 - 01/07/12 04:20 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I hate how all we do is bitch about how america is going down a shithole, we need REAL change etc, when we are still electing the candidates that just go along with what will give them the greatest appeal and half-ass everything they do in office cause they have fear of losing approval ratings. I think either we keep doing what we have been doing (electing shitty presidents) or try to change it up a little bit.

sure ron paul might fuck the country up but he might actually make things a bit better if allowed to. No one can really say for sure. But im willing to do whatever it takes to try to have a guy in office who actually sticks to his views, however radical they might be.

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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: LittleDipster]
    #15631207 - 01/07/12 05:45 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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LittleDipster said:
I hate how all we do is bitch about how america is going down a shithole, we need REAL change etc, when we are still electing the candidates that just go along with what will give them the greatest appeal and half-ass everything they do in office cause they have fear of losing approval ratings. I think either we keep doing what we have been doing (electing shitty presidents) or try to change it up a little bit.

sure ron paul might fuck the country up but he might actually make things a bit better if allowed to. No one can really say for sure. But im willing to do whatever it takes to try to have a guy in office who actually sticks to his views, however radical they might be.






So the radical socialist in office should be good for you. :smirk:


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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: dtowntoker]
    #15631838 - 01/07/12 08:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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highdroponics said:
Wow at the hostility coming from you Zappa. You sound like a belligerent drunk who has no mind of his own. You have to be told what the facts are and that is incredibly sad.

Where is the proof that Ron Paul is actually racist? Newsletters from decades ago which have been proven that they were not written by him? Have you ever agreed to a contract without reading it thoroughly? Plenty of people have and still do on a daily basis and this is the only mistake I have seen Ron Paul ever make. He didn't same mistake again, does that count for anything? Doesn't seem to affect your vote toward Obama that he made many mistakes and even broke many of those beloved promises he made.




What proof?  That he says he isn't?  Talk about somebody being told what the facts are.  I'll tell you what the facts are, sonny.  L. Ron published several newsletters that included vile racist and anti-homosexual screeds.  Either he knew what was being written under his masthead or he didn't.  If he did he is a vile bigot.  If he didn't he is an incompetent manager.  I suspect he is both but he has to be at least one of them.

You think I voted for Obama?  Holy fucking shit are you ignorant.
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You seem very threatened, Zappa. Are you afraid that your assets will no longer hold the value they do once a man like Paul is elected? Face it, you live in a false reality that you have been conditioned to believe is real life. This conditioning has been going on for centuries and people of the future will look back on these days and call you(of all people) a peasant as you do not work to live, you live to work; Just as everyone else in this country does.




My assets are real estate.  The form of currency is irrelevant to my assets.  Everyone else in this country lives to work?  Are you shitting me?  Most of them try to avoid having to work.  As an employer for over two decades I have seen this truth first hand.
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Ron Paul is not a vote for change, he is the cry for help for a new (re)revolution which we so desperately need here in America. Your ideas, Zappa, are  egotistical and not of any help in the progression of America or the evolution of humanity.




"Evolution of humanity?"  Paul is going to effect this?  This is what we call demagoguery and is precisely why I call him L. Ron.  His followers are just slightly less nuts than Scientologists and no less fervent.  Cultist loons.


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Re: Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business [Re: skatealex2]
    #15631892 - 01/07/12 08:22 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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It is true though, to call Ron Paul a raciat is biggotry yourself,  Ron Paul's the one candidate in this race who argues against racial profiling and fights racist drug laws.  Listen to his thousands of speeches you wont have an easy time finding him saying anything that is actually racist.




Did you listen to his thousands of speeches, Bot?  I read the newsletters.  They contain racist and bigoted ideas.  That is a fact.  Racist drug laws?  Why are they racist?  Because a particular racial group violates them more than another?  Maybe you should also talk about racist banking laws since a particular racial group violates them more often than any other.  It is moronic to label a law racist just because one racial group violates it more than another.  And he doesn't even talk about ending drug laws.  he talks about getting the federal government out of it.  The states, who are already responsible for the vast majority of drug prohibition, can still fuck over retarded potheads, as if life itself doesn't fuck them over enough.
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Also there seems to be no evidence that the status quo candidates would bring an sort of real change.  Ron Paul is the only one offering real spending cuts and shrinking the size of Government.




I have no reason to believe that L. Ron can bring any change.  He certainly hasn't brought any as a long term Congressman.  Nothing.  The only change he brought was the pork to his district.  And "Change"?  Really?  Isn't that the same kind of directionless nonsense that got us the current idiot occupant?


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