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OfflineMistaSmokupalot
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No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something..
    #1560694 - 05/19/03 04:21 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Uhm..

Before I talk I must say sorry for my spelling, Im right now really, really scared, and I cant type or talk properly.

Last night, I musts ay was one of the most craziest, insanest nights I will probably ever have in my entire life. I decided to pick up soem mushrooms, with a buddy thene at them at his house (Im experienced with mushrooms to a great extentbut nothing, absoliutly nothing could comprehend this). I ate them, and right after eating I felt effects, not really enujoyable effects though. Anyways to make a long story short we started hardcore tripping in my buddies house, watching TV, you know doing mushroom stuff.

Anyways it was late we ate the mush at 9 pm and itwas like 11 and I was VERY VERY out of my mind. I came out of the jon, and went back into my freinds house woth soemthing all over my pants, theyhy were soaking wet..after thinking about it, I must've (gulp) peed on myself whi;le I was in the bathroom. All of a sudden my freind started hinting at really weird things.

He said to me that, I was a sinner, and that people these days dont know whats good or bad for them. For hours, and hours I was in complete helll (i know whoever has had a bad trip on mushrooms its complete hell, but this was real..TOO REAL) My freind started farting, like HELLLLLA....and he was in all these weird postions (almost liek sexual positions..)on his bed. I then looked down and started rocking back and forth constantly...He then said that I nwas fucking stupid, and that I don;t know whats good for me, and I started confessing to him all of my sins.

I thought my freind was god. At the same time, I also thought he was lucifer (the devil) because he was offdering me sinful things (weed, cigarettes, pornos)..I suddewnly started saying lord help me, god save me please..and started chanting..even thoug I walk in the valley of the shadow of death I hear no evil speak no evil, that saying y'know. When I was a kid I used to go to christian camps, and it all came back to me. I should've lsitened to the preacher, and what he said for me to do when Iw as dying. Then I started singing the song Hallalughia (or w/e that s0ong is called).

I asked for a bible loudly and he said to me SHUT UP..you dont want my parents hearing this, if they wake up they will be mad (I oif course I thought thathe was lucifer, and his parents were the ultimate devils or w/e, so I started whispering) He apparently wen tinto his sisters room and got me a bible. I thoguht he was god giving me a chance to save my sinful life, so I started reading the bible out loud, starting with genesis. He then told me to phone my father and confess my sins..So I did. I told my dad everything That I ahd done as a kid..I told him that I had stolen from him in the past..that I do drugs and so on, and so on..I alkso said some very very homosexual things, that I do not want to rmemeber whatsoever. My parents picked me up, and I thought I was a walking skeleton walking into heaven (heaven of course being my house) (oh and did I tell you that the whole way to my house ion ym moms car I was reading the bible out loud?)...

More stuff happened. I just cant think about it right now..I don;t want to tyhnik aboiut thsi right now..I just cant comprehend it..I only ate an eighth of cubes..and tripped out for a LONG TIME..and when I woke up this mornign I thought that I was in heaven, andI started cryig because I was a ghost, and had fucked my whoe life up with drugs, and fucked everrtones liufe up....

Ive been talking to my mom, and she said that I was completely out of it, and that she thought I was Od'ing on pcp or some otger type of drug...I never would of thught that mushrooms had this kind of power. I don;'t know if I had an actual revelation, or What..But All that I kjnow, is that im going to pick up a bible and keep it with me at all times..because this was just crazy. I was at the gates of hell last nite..I saw, heard and felt the most INSANE shit... If you guys dont beleive me thats cool, because I soun oike some weirdo talking about nothing...but Im teling you that it's true....and A life changing experience...

Anyone ever hearof this happening to ANYONE off of an eighth of cubes? I swaer to god last night was too real.

fuck dude.

peace.



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Anonymous

Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1560708 - 05/19/03 04:28 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Mushrooms are powerful and they are not for everyone. I do not recommend you do them again.

Peace,

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OfflineSeussA
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1560718 - 05/19/03 04:31 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not a doctor, but I don't think you are broken, if that is what you are worried about. It sounds like you had a pretty rough trip and the effects of that will be with you for a while. Look for the positives in your experience and learn from the negative ones.


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Anonymous

Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1560766 - 05/19/03 04:48 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

sit with your thoughts and experience for a while... don't come to any hard conclusions.. just let everything be analyzed, but also let things go. it was only a bad trip and it happens to all of us... lay off the drugs for a while, and in the future, you will know if you should take mushrooms again.

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OfflineMurex
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1560874 - 05/19/03 05:23 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)


There are many reasons why you had a bad trip-

1. You were not in the proper setting to trip.
2. You evidently didn't research mushrooms enough to understand what could happen.
3. You didn't have the proper mindset to trip.

Mushrooms have shown you exactly what it should have. If you abuse the mushroom, the mushroom will abuse you. Try to understand the mushroom and it can show you many wonderful things that can change your life.

I suggest that you read up on the drugs you take before you take them.  :wink:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


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OfflineDeiymiyan
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1560888 - 05/19/03 05:28 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Last night eh?



Caution... you have succumb to some social brainwashing... That is why you feel so lost.

LoOnEr is right... take a break... And don't believe all that you "see"... "Vision" is so limited.



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Veni Vidi Vici:

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Offlineatomikfunksoldier
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #1560912 - 05/19/03 05:38 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

mushroom tip 1: dont do mushrooms with creepy christians.

even weed can fuck you up if you are in the wrong setting.


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OfflineHidingInPlainSight
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1560931 - 05/19/03 05:45 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

maybe God is telling you through the trip that you are putting drugs first before him and him second.. and that you need to change those around.  :smile: 

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InvisibleZero7a1
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1561006 - 05/19/03 06:09 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

  even weed can fuck you up if you are in the wrong setting.




this is most definatly true.

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yeah im going to have to go with what these guys said. Murex has a pretty good explanation i think, and i think Mr. Mushrooms offers some good advice. dont do them if its going to do this to you. and pay attention to what the others have said. i hope you are feeling alright. just take it easy. there are a lot of people who have gone through this, if not on mushrooms but weed or just life in general. i must say ive had it on weed, dxm, and just life in general. so be careful, and just try and be "cool". and i think you will be alright :laugh:  :smile:


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Offlinebarfightlard
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1561042 - 05/19/03 06:21 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

That sounds kind of similar to a bad trip I had off an 1/8th that kindof turned me off mushrooms. Anyways I was at this guys house and me and 1 other person were on mush. Everything was fine untill a few pther people came over, most of them I knew. But, I thought that every person in my life was coming to that house and I swear I saw all of them at times too. Then for some reason I thought everyone at the house were fags and were trying to take advantage of me (HAHA). We were watching TV and were at the TV guide channel and I swear every name on the TV of a show I saw was somehow related to gay people. Then it came to me that everyone in the world was gay, and I was the only one who wasn't and my mind just got totally fucked and scared the shit out of me.

I wasn't really talking to anyone because I was to busy trying to figuer out what was going on because it seemed too damn real. Then my one buddy came over to me and said "do you know whats goin on" (it was that or somehting very similar) and I then related it to my feeling about how I thought they were all gay and it scared the shit out of me and I just turned my head and looked out the window totally confused. Then a bit later I saw my mom drive by and that just kinda snapped me into getitng up and leaving. They tried to tell me not to leave, I think because I was pretty messed form the mushrooms. The perosns whos house it was seemed kindof mad like I thought at the time that I was leaving, and that too I thought was because they were trying to take advantage of me or something. I couldn't figuer out why an 1/8th messed me up so bad and I tink thats another reason why I thought it was so real. When I got home my mom knew I was fucked because she asked me if I was mixing anything, so I told her I was drunk and didn't feel well.

So, I was going up to my room to sleep and she says to me what did D and that other kid get the shaft about, and I thought she knew everyone where I was was gay or something and that there really made me believe it was all true so I was freaked the fuck out. I went and layed in my bed and tried to think about everything and it was all so confusing.

When I was sober I came to the conclusion that I was not in the best environment and with all those new people that showed up it wasn't comfortable for me. And that when I do mushrooms again it will only be by myself, untill I feel comfortable doing them around other people again, if I ever do.



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"What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?" - Bill Hicks

Edited by bellylard (05/19/03 06:23 PM)

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OfflineMalachi
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: barfightlard]
    #1561227 - 05/19/03 07:30 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't read all of the other responses that you received, but from what I did, they weren't very helpful.

what happened to you is not reducible to "oh, you're the wrong type of person" or "you where in the wrong set/setting" or any of that bullshit that the "authorities" on tripping will tell you. "authorities" tend to be big fucking dumbasses.

what happened is that you actually had a trip. most people don't really trip when they take mushrooms. There needs to be something to trip on- - not a drug, but cognitive dissonance. It's all about meeting the real you, which may be a homosexual you, which may be a "sinning" you, which may be a "you" that you've never met. You didn't meet god.


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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: Malachi]
    #1561261 - 05/19/03 07:37 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

i agree malachi.. i too am sick of the "right setting" , "shrooms aren't for you" responses... this kid needs to reflect on what happened, but not let it drive him insane...pick it apart then dust the pieces off and realize nothing that happened can deliver a concrete answer, just take the trip in stride.

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OfflineMistaSmokupalot
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: ]
    #1561327 - 05/19/03 07:52 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

I really, really wish that didn't happen.  I know I'm not gay, because I'm attracted to women.  I think what Iw ad trying to say was that I had looked at porno with men in it, and thought that was wrong..no more hedero porn for me, lesbian only :smile:

I just don't know what to tell my freind, I find it hard to beelve that hed beleive me after Iw as inj his room telling him how I sinned and looked at pictures of boys and men...but I guess if he's a true freind he's just gonna have to face the fact that I was purely tripping the fuck out.

I talked to him today and he asked me if I was gay I said no, and he beelived..He jus thought I was trippin...right now my body feels very weird..almost like a deep, deep depression.  I hope this sadness ends soon.

I can't beleive I did that alst night...what a dumbass .

I do rewspect mushrooms, HIGHLY.  Ive learned alot forem them.  But I guess they just don't want me to use them anymore, well, at elast for a while.

peace. 


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Offlinebarfightlard
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1561357 - 05/19/03 08:03 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe thats what did bring that crazy trip onto you. Just from reading these responces im starting to think that maybe one of my buddys is gay and the mushrooms intensivied that?? I remember that when me and a few ppl were at matrix he said something about how gays arn't accepted as much as lesbians, and it sounded to me like he might be actually gay r somehting?? I hope not though lol.


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Invisibletak_old
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen somethin [Re: barfightlard]
    #1561605 - 05/19/03 09:08 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Know your limits man. It may hav eonly been an eight, but its hard to determine some factors sometimes. I thought I could handle anything one day, and completely freaked out, i ended up in the hospital, and fuked up alot of shit I had going for me. I quit for a while, mostly because i was scared shitless, and my ego was compltely shattered, i was having constant flashbacks for months, i wanted to die, i would've killed myself if only i wernt afraid of the infinate void... I was fucked up. It sure did teach me a lesson though, and im glas i learned it safely. I know alot of friends who say they have never had a bad trip, and never will, I hope they learn thieir lesson in a safe way. :wink:

Edited by tak (05/19/03 09:26 PM)

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OfflineMitchnast
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1561781 - 05/19/03 10:11 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

avoiding porn with males in it out of fear of homosexuality does not make you un-gay, quite easily the opposite really.
youed be damn surprised at how much you can do or think in life (and crave) and separate it in a sub-ego place in your mind that is easily burried.  as your superego simply wont have it.

the delusion of the devil tempting you with sinful sexual acts shows raw sexual attraction towards your male friend unfettered by your logical sence that being a "homo" is wrong  the fact that you saw your friend as the devil shows you beleive he saw right through your disguise, and heres why you felt guilt and it became hell for you.

furthermore, the delusion that evryone is gay can easily be connected to the subconsious rejection of a homosexual self-image, revisited on the subject of attraction, Ex, all the men.

this isnt an attack on you, im just saying youre probably gay is all.  (both of you) :smile:

and its driving you (both) crazy

your exhibitional attraction towards lesbian porn shows youre not bothered by homosexuality, but only the presence of men, but why? WHY would men bother you? because theyre gross? bercause theyre hairy? because they have penis's? because they shoot gooey semen?  or is it because they represent something about you, a potential that you cant handle.
what are you clinging onto exactly?  youre hanging on to something desperately.  these are the only things that would bring the devil. the things that make you desperate, guilty, god-hating, self-loathing.  hell is right here, heaven too.  and if you live a life of guilt and fear, of self-punishment and disgust, what do you make it?
do you really think you have the stregnth to choose to not be gay?  lets examine your attraction to women,  you say women attract you, well, perhaps (and im totally formulating this from a guess) that experiencing an attraction to women gives you a feeling of self accomplishment, like youve denied the devil a peice of your soul.......  but really, the only trait youve shown is nascisism, self-gratification, pride.
you hand away your soul peice by peice to a reflection of yourself, it could be you, god, the devil, or your best friend.  i think YOU can appreciate it DOESNT matter what you are, its all one. and exactly why you really dont hide anything, which is exactly why you chose to reveil evrything, because you suddenly knew that it was all well documented and you were confronted by your own reflection, you saw yourself.  and suddenly you were in hell.  you were ALWAYS there, and knew quite surely you would always be there, you begged for the forgiveness of your sins, wanting so much for the parts of yourself you held away from the world to be freed from their self-induced bondage, you called yourself gay up and down to people that mattered to maybe set free your locked away self, the part of you called love that you hid and perhaps lost touch with.

god is love, love is what makes this all real, the fact that you can love the world makes it matter, if your life doesnt matter, you never existed, you go to a lonely place away from evrything because you cannot love, love is wrong to you, because its gay.

theres hope though, but you wont find it by denying yourself anything, you need to really understand yourself, hardly anybody understands themself, then one day like a trip to hell in their own house they realize its HIGH TIME they learned who they really are and stop putting it off.
some never have this moment, and some ignore it or run from it, act in opposition towards reality to undo evrything they might learn, (god help them)
heres a nice peice of knowlage for you, a quote from me.  madness only seems to slow down, because it keeps piling up.

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InvisibleMyInsanityTrip
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1561956 - 05/19/03 11:17 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

I think Malachi said it best.

Man, I always love these trip stories.  This kind of shit happens to me every time I have a head full of hallucinogens.  From what I gather through experiences halucinogens take you to places in your mind you never go ordinarily.  It takes you closer and closer to who you are at times, to your true "self".

Other times it takes you so far away from yourself that sometimes your only way of coping is to lay back, trip out, and keep telling yourself "I'm just trippin', this night will end."

Hallucinogens will always be my drug of choice, used in moderation, how, when, and where I choose to use them.  Bottom line is I've never blamed them for anything that's happened to me...good or bad...while on them, it all comes from me, and I am my favorite form of entertainment....if that makes sense :crazy:

Anyway, that part where your friend was laying all sexual and farting made me laugh out loud, that's a trip.     

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OfflineMurex
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: Mitchnast]
    #1561974 - 05/19/03 11:26 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)


A soul has no sex when it has no physical body.

.........just thought you should know. :wink:

I have tripped and looked into the mirrior and seen myself as female. It was strange, but enjoyable for some reason. I also get elf ears...but that's beside the point.


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen somethin [Re: Murex]
    #1562343 - 05/20/03 03:46 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

> But All that I kjnow, is that im going to pick up a bible and keep it with me at all times..because this was just crazy.

Sorry, but it sounds like the Bible stuff was what fucked you up in the first place, the mushrooms- which you took in the wrong place with the wrong people- (your friend sounds like an idiot for letting you talk to your dad) just made it more obvious.
I'm not saying religion is bad for you, eventually you will find your own God but before you can do that you're going to have to dump all that (wild guess here) Southern Baptist? mindrot they've been pumping into you with since you were in training pants. Because it obviously doesn't suit you well.

It sounds like you're a kid; IMHO anyone who has to trip at their parents house or their friends parent's house shouldn't be tripping... anyway, mushrooms are inherently spiritual but if your only reference frame for 'spirituality' is the hellfirendamnation / guilt-fear-intolerance bible-thumping sort that is widely passed off as "Christianity" in certain parts of this continent- you just need to widen your horizons.

I suggest you do take a break from drugs for a while- and start doing a lot of reading- but from more than one book.

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Offlinegnrm23
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen somethin [Re: Xibalba]
    #1562385 - 05/20/03 05:15 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

should have gobbled up 500 milligrams of niacinamide & 10 milligrams of diazepam & then crawled inside a sleeping bag to watch the pretty patterns fade out, dude...


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OfflineLOBO
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1562432 - 05/20/03 06:55 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

I don?t know, but something in your story, your avatar your bio does not feel right to me, call it gut feeling, I think is bullshit.
I don?t even think you did shrooms, I think you have different agenda here.
Perhaps you are a crazy Christian trying to put fear in us ?sinners? or a fed.
And if it really happened I suggest, you avoid forever any mind-altering substances, you need a lot of growing up and maturity for these kinds of ventures.
Further more is people like you, that will end up doing something really stupid, and give a bad rap to psychedelics, and keep ruin it for the rest of us.
I am sorry if I am to blunt with you but you are not ready for this kid.


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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1562526 - 05/20/03 08:16 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Instead of
"No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.."

You should rename this topic into

"When 12 year old idiot kids take up drugs..."


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Offlinequemo
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: cleaner]
    #1562582 - 05/20/03 09:26 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

fuck you cleaner. Not the time, nor the place... :mad: 

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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: quemo]
    #1562668 - 05/20/03 10:39 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

why what did i say?


Should a re phrase it

"When 14 year old idiot kids take up drugs"?

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Anonymous

Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: cleaner]
    #1562714 - 05/20/03 11:07 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Instead of
"No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.."

You should rename this topic into

"When 12 year old idiot kids take up drugs..."




Well well Mr. Cleaner. I knew it wouldn't take long for your garbage mouth to flame someone. Remember the warning I issued you?

You will now receive a temp ban. After that, if you can't "clean" up your act you will be permabanned.

Cheerio,

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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1562742 - 05/20/03 11:28 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Don't listen to the atheists who would have you throw away your faith or the Christian's who would have you throw away your mind. Use YOUR head and think for YOURSELF and reach YOUR conclusions.

This might help. It is a little piece I adopted for the Other Drugs FAQ:

"We live in a world filled with drugs. They can be used in smart ways or dangerous ways. Certain authorities, i.e. politicians, police officers, pastors, parents etc will often lie or be hypocritical about drugs. Many of your friends may use drugs and you may have opportunities to experiment with them yourself if you haven't done so already. Even though certain authorities are dishonest about the dangers of drugs they do not want used it does not mean those drugs are safe. All drugs are dangerous.

If you never use drugs you can be certain you will never have a problem with them. That is the only way you can be certain of that. There is nothing wrong with that decision and if you make that decision you might have more choices open to you than your friends who use drugs. Remember that if someone tries to pressure you into taking drugs. Others may think you aren't cool if you won't use drugs but you really will not be missing anything. Every experience you can have with drugs can be had in others ways. If you decided to experiment with drugs, whether approved or disapproved, make sure:

1. You know exactly what you are taking.

2. Where they come from.

3. How they will affect your body and mind.

4. What precautions you should take to contain their potential for harm.

Forming good relationships with drugs requires awareness and practice.

Don't use drugs unconsciously and don't spend time around people who do.

If you use illegal drugs remember the terrible things that being arrested can do to you and your family. On the other hand don't think the just because a drug is legal it is safe. Some of the most dangerous drugs are legal. You are less likely to have problems if you take mild forms of natural drugs by mouth now and then, and even more so if you take them for positive reasons according to rules you set for yourself. You are more likely to have problems if you take strong drugs often especially you take them because you're unhappy or bored or just because you have them or can get them easily.

Lastly, wanting to feel high does not mean they is something wrong with you. Or that you have an unhealthy desire to escape reality. It is normal to want to vary your consciousness. Drugs are just one way of doing it, though, and if you come to rely on them before you are mature you may not be able to appreciate a whole range of non-drug experiences that are more subtle but more rewarding over time. There is no question that drugs can make you high. But they are difficult to master and may fail you if you take them all the time."

Remember, not everyone can or should use mushrooms.

Cheers,

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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: ]
    #1562764 - 05/20/03 11:41 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm.. not sure I agree with this one part:

Every experience you can have with drugs can be had in others ways.

How can one reproduce a psilocybin experience without actually ingesting any psilocybin? Not that I don't believe it's possible but I can't think of how it could be done.


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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: Revelation]
    #1562799 - 05/20/03 11:57 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, that's the statement that gets all the druggies. I have had more comments when I post it on that part than any other. But don't take my word for it. Do a little research. It is true.

Cheers,

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    #1562824 - 05/20/03 12:06 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks.


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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: Revelation]
    #1562833 - 05/20/03 12:08 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Getting your brain temperature up past 104 degrees F works well for hallucinating.


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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: Swami]
    #1562858 - 05/20/03 12:22 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Also try "going on the hill" where you go 4 days and nights in the hot Dakota sun without sleep, water, or food, and then have the Elders grab you and throw you in an Inipi Sweat Lodge where the temperature is near 212 degrees for moments at a time.  You will see tons of things, even your future. :wink: 

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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1562889 - 05/20/03 12:30 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Well for one thing, I think everything that happened on your bad trip was a metaphor. The shrooms act as a subconscious mirror. Sometimes you won't like what you see.

You sound like you are very religious. Perhaps this was all caused by guilty religion-based feelings you might have towards your drug use and your "sins", which could likely include some feeling of homosexuality. Not saying that you are gay, but it is possible. It's also possible you called someone a fag and felt guilty so it came back to you. It's also possible that you are homophobic, and a recent church meeting brought that fear up in topic or something. I don't know you, so I can't say, but the answer is in your head somewhere.

Try to remember anything before your bad trip that might have been the culprit of such things. Any kind of negative feelings towards homosexuals, the church, your drug use, whatever could easily have been presented back at you by the shrooms. It wasn't the shrooms fault you had a bad trip, they just amplified whatever mindset, conscious or subconscious, that you might have been in recently.

Hope you find your answers.

Peace
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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1562967 - 05/20/03 12:58 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Washing away Christain conditioning is never easy.

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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: Mitchnast]
    #1562973 - 05/20/03 01:01 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Thats pretty interesting Mitch! "this isnt an attack on you, im just saying youre probably gay is all. (both of you) " thats hilarious, but im not actually gay lol. The sub-concious thingy is something i've never thought about and i've never seen myself homosexual self-image. I believe now that my one buddy is quite possably gay, and the mushrooms just amplified those thoughts. Don't really know for sure? Next time I trip by myself i'll see if I can come up with any more conclusions.


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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: barfightlard]
    #1563049 - 05/20/03 01:32 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)


Carl Jung had some interesting theroies on that.


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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: ]
    #1563078 - 05/20/03 01:41 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Use the sacred head bonking mallet.


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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1563115 - 05/20/03 01:54 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

I agree with Xibalba, your friend is a fucking moron for letting you call your dad. And an even bigger fucking moron for TELLING YOU TO CALL YOUR DAD AND CONFESS YOUR SINS. That has got to be the stupidest fucking thing you could tell someone flipping out on shrooms to do. I would punch my friend in the face and take the phone away before I let him talk to his dad and say shit like that. As for the sexual farting position, I know what your talking about. If you sit with your ass up in the air you can like suck air into your ass and fart it out.....anyone ever seen Mr. Methane on Howard Stern?


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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen somethin [Re: gnrm23]
    #1563768 - 05/20/03 06:35 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Okay, thanks for all the helpful comments and suggestions.

What does my avatar have anything to dow ith this, That's my fav. album...and artist....

Anyways.  The funny thing is, I'm not a christian freak..lol, I don't go to church, i don't read the bible, and I havn't even thought about god etc since I was a little kid.  Alot of you are misunderstanding...even though I might say my freind told me to confess his sins, does not mean he did it, I was tripping, HARDCORELY, I watched my freind say shit, he would never, ever, ever say..and he didn't say half the shit I said he said lol. ( I talked to him today).  As far as the gay thing goes, I'm not gay.  Just not my kind of thing..but these are mushrooms, you think ABOIUT EVERYTHING..even things you are not, and you think about what it would be like to be them (as the guy who saw himself as a woman said earlier, you think weird stuff).

I'm not new to tripping.  I must say I've had my fair share of acid and mushrooms in my day..this was just another bad trip...Anyways, it's all over know, and it was a learning experience.  Im going to lay of the mushrooms for a while, smoke some reefer, maybe do a small amount of acid, mushrooms I really neeed to respect as a drug, then they will respect me back :wink:

thanks for your guysss comments .

peace.


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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen somethin [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1564244 - 05/20/03 09:43 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

i feel liked a fucked giant supernova.... what you say what its like to think about everything... being a god damn dishwasher. being a lamp post. a dog a cat a tooth pic.k the various nails holding up the frames of your living space. the trees, the animals. other people. other situations. put yourself in their shoes. Where the hell are my shoes?! damnit. i dont have any shoes. and i dont have any water. so many things so many people take for granted!

shrooms will make you think about a lot of things fast, but you dont need them to think about everything. but that coould be just what happened.


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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen somethin [Re: Zero7a1]
    #1569708 - 05/22/03 03:21 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

heh... well i for one wish i could have been as lucky as you to have gone thru all that: the best teacher is experience! the tougher it gets the more you achieve, appreciate the oppertunity is what eggy says.


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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen somethin [Re: eggy]
    #1570582 - 05/22/03 09:50 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

well thats nice to know you see it as something positive Eggy, something whcih i have a real hard time doing. Im sure you could find a way to experience just about anything. Just Dream! Some of them, i dont think anyone should really go through. Maybe thats not true though. i dont know. maybe i will be able to really say if it was good or bad once i come out of the haze. but for now i feel pretty locked up with the shite thats been going on lately.


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Re: No more mushrooms, anything for me, I have seen something.. [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1570625 - 05/22/03 10:03 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

your friend should've stopped you from calling your parents. i've called my parents too and started saying I'm sorry for doing shrooms and drugs and said I'd never do them again.

One of the things I realized was a big mistake coming down. Oh well. but your experience doesn't sound like a bad thing. You've seen the light. It's all up to you if you want to do shrooms again.


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It provides for all people
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In this way it is just like Tao        ~Daodejing

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