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Re: Drug Spirits [Re: thefloodbehind]
    #15601942 - 01/01/12 04:13 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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MDMA - A homosexual male entity who listens to bad music.




or a dancing spirit of ecstasy, that's another way to put it


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Re: Drug Spirits [Re: g00ru]
    #15603236 - 01/01/12 09:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

:lol:

I only tried MDMA once, and only took one hit. It was fun at the time, but reflecting back it really just felt like a plasticky, overall "fake" version of psychedelia.

The reason for my typification is that I've had multiple people tell me stories (personal or about someone else) about straight dudes having homosexual encounters on E. :shrug:

I'm gonna stick to the pot and psychedelics, as I'm a philosophical, artsy type.


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Re: Drug Spirits [Re: lolwut]
    #15604248 - 01/02/12 06:18 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I get what ever mystical experience I've been thinking about lately, when I do a high dose of LSA. I can get Odinic experiences without having to have thought about it though. Christianity/satanism, gnostic and Dharmic. I get audio musical visions but I never get closed eye visuals. Which making sitting still in the dark saying show me the scenery impossible. But I have gratitude for what I get.

At my age, usually I become convinced that I've poisoned my brain, asking why am I back here, please don't do this again. Yeah right. If I don't take enough my experience is usually completely unpleasant. Recreational mysticism is not for cowards.


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Re: Drug Spirits [Re: g00ru]
    #15604252 - 01/02/12 06:21 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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MDMA - A homosexual male entity who listens to bad music.




or a dancing spirit of ecstasy, that's another way to put it




I started enjoying psy-trance, but only straight. When I'm high it sounds like tele-tubbies. I don't expect to ever take MDMA...


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Re: Drug Spirits [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #15604529 - 01/02/12 09:26 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i'm a very introspective/artistic person myself and i've had great experiences with MDMA.  it is sort of superficial compared to other psychedelics but you can still learn a lot from it about how to be detached from emotions and also how easy some things become when there's a lot of love in the air :wink:

of course one time i took 2 rolls w/ speed in em and my serotonin was fucked for like a week, i was pretty depressed, but i learned a lot from that experience because one night i woke up with a panic attack and meditated through it, letting that existential fear pass through me has helped me a lot in life.

basically MDMA is the most abused and seemingly useless psych but it can still act as a teacher


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Re: Drug Spirits [Re: g00ru]
    #15604795 - 01/02/12 10:37 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Mayhaps, but I'm just not interested. I've tried almost every major classification of drug (opiate, stimulant, dissociative, deliriant, tryptamine, phenethylamine, cannabis and alcohol) in one way or another (only things I've gone far with and done repeatedly are pot, psychedelics and alcohol, though) and have determined I'm a pot/psychedelia dude to the core. I don't even get drunk anymore.

I still need to try DMT though ...


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Re: Drug Spirits [Re: thefloodbehind]
    #15604961 - 01/02/12 11:30 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

ya same, i've never blasted off on DMT.  i have a fear of it...but ya know, i feel as though the time for me to try some again might be drawing near...


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Re: Drug Spirits [Re: g00ru]
    #15604971 - 01/02/12 11:33 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Fear? Really? It sounds like a "blast" to me. :lol:


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Re: Drug Spirits [Re: thefloodbehind]
    #15605007 - 01/02/12 11:43 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

well just because mushrooms already blew a few sprockets in my brain years back and i don't think i was in the right kinda place to take huge psychedelic doses, but I wouldn't be so worried about taking it these days.

when i did smoke it it was just like a low dose mushroom trip that lasted a few minutes


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Re: Drug Spirits [Re: g00ru]
    #15605097 - 01/02/12 12:06 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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well just because mushrooms already blew a few sprockets in my brain years back and i don't think i was in the right kinda place to take huge psychedelic doses, but I wouldn't be so worried about taking it these days.

when i did smoke it it was just like a low dose mushroom trip that lasted a few minutes




"blew a few sprockets" ... ? Mushies aren't neurotoxic ... Right? :crazyeyes:


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Re: Drug Spirits [Re: thefloodbehind]
    #15606101 - 01/02/12 03:40 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

no not at all but they still do shit to your serotonin/dopamine/synapses and sometimes it can be a lil intense...and permanent. i think it's been a good thing though.

i've definitely had my share of :crazyeyes: times though


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Re: Drug Spirits [Re: g00ru]
    #15606155 - 01/02/12 03:51 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Ah, I see. The :crazyeyes: times are worth it if you ask me. :lol:


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Re: Drug Spirits [Re: thefloodbehind]
    #15606214 - 01/02/12 04:02 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

necessary even :yesnod:


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Re: Drug Spirits [Re: g00ru]
    #15606532 - 01/02/12 05:09 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Morphogenesis said:
I think it is revealing to understand these 'spirits' are all components of ourselves that we can conjure and interact with.




I agree with morpho here.  Spirits to me are things that exist: not in physical space, not in words, not experienced by 5 senses.  Not a thing even and not travelling alongside us in time.  Everywhere, nowhere, everpresent.

Spirit is what allows people to transcend emotions, to endure suffering, to be generous, creative, compassionate.  Spirit also allows for fear, greed, malice, hatred, but I try not to dwell on that :grin:

There is the world of shapes, physics and such, but there are things which are not bound by this.  Words are even very spiritual things, transcending the physical they are not things that a human can control, they are magical and elusive.

Tripping or any other drug high falls into this category of the spiritual, non-physical things which are intertwined with the physical.  Like you can't really describe what a sunset does to you, and those moments where you catch yourself and suddenly feel empty and wrong, like this is not "me" and all these things I think and do are not what "I" am. 

People for the most part don't understand developing something that takes no physical form, how could they as physical beings?  Why work towards something that doesn't satiate a physical desire?  To do so is to be insane.  Basically we have to be trapped in these bodies in order for our spirits to be free, and once you embody the spirit, you no longer need the body, its wonders and trivialities, for your "self". 

Sorry for the ramble, it is a fun game for me to try to pin these things down into words.  If you think everything I said here is wrong, I think you are 100% right.


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Re: Drug Spirits [Re: lolwut]
    #15606589 - 01/02/12 05:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

While under the "influence" of anything, particularly these substances we call drugs, your "high" can be thought of as a shift in your bodies vibration.

With this shift in vibration/consciousness, the way in which your senses interpret your present reality also changes.

This change in the way you interact with vibration could be understood as the "language" your drug of choice "speaks".

Now perhaps the vibration in which you experience your high is the embodiment of your drugs spirit, with all experience (knowledge) thus the "teaching".

Now as with all student-teacher relationships, actual learning (experience) is just as dependant on the receptiveness  of  the student as it is the teaching of the "master".  The master in this case being the drug experience/drug spirit and the student being your ego.


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