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lewisplanthead
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Methoxetamine, Salvia and the many rubber faces of God 2
#13982698 - 02/18/11 01:00 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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So I'll try to keep this short, which won't be that hard because I've already forgotten most of it. It started off with my getting ready to go to sleep after being up for over thirty hours. I decided to do a few bumps off methoxetamine and put on a movie while I drifted off. However, the slight mania of the methox pushed me towards quite a few re-doses to make the film increasingly, let's say, interactive.
After the film was over I did five more little lines (around 40mg in total)and put on my headphones. I went into a hole. The only thing I remember is being pushed around in a cart underground and ending up at an underground entrance to a local nightclub. I thought this was actually happening. I won't say much about the methox trip because I honestly can't remember much of it.
When I came to I was still slightly manic. I sat up in my bed and watched my dimly lit room constantly change and morph into different layouts. Swimming pools, roller coaster boarding stations and other bizzare locations. NMDA antagonists are wild when it's dark and your mind is given free reign as to what your environment is.
I came down a little and decided on something I haven't had the balls to repeat in nearly four years. I was going for the salvia breakthrough. I FILLED my pipe with 10x extract and put my back to the wall behind my bed. I lit up and smoked it all in one hit. My lungs were bursting. Next thing I know I think I'm a hello kitty doll plummeting down underground again into one of four multi-coloured squares. I thought "Did I finish the pipe? Am I going to breakthrough?" I landed in one of the squares and everything changed. Inside the square was a little white room. I was being pulled across the room. I saw a vision of a woman holding a bird repeating forever. I was so beyond normal human consciousness at this point that I can no longer comprehend or explain what was happening.
There was a married woman and a man who communicated to me that the universe was ending. My life had been an illusion. I was everybody who I had even known or lived.
The trip followed a narrative as I was pulled along a "track" and was shown things.
- There were two huge lines of masks all facing each other. The female presence in front of me on the track "deflated" them, or de-animated them. Showing what they really were: they were all me. This started a chain reaction which deflated all of the faces which stretched into the distance. I cannot describe how I felt upon seeing this. It was astonishing, embarrassing and full of despair. I thought that at the start when creating these masks I had known that in reality they were all me. But eventually, as they constantly multiplied I had spread my consciousness too thin and forgot they they were not real.
- I was becoming a big rubber head with four faces all facing each other. I realised that this was the true nature of reality. The faces had, up until this moment (salvia had broken the illusion which I had sustained for so long) manifested themselves as thousands of masks to "pretend" that they were not bored and lonely facing each other for eternity. I felt so embarrassed that the facade had been broken, and that I had forgotten the game I had set up. I wondered what I was going to say to the each others when the head had fully come into view. I decided I would tell them that I loved them, and was sad about having had to pretend we were not all one for eternity, even though it was boring.
There were other things that happened, but they are too strange for me to even attempt to put them into words. I guess anyone who has broken through on salvia will have some vague idea of how these things transpired. Everything that happened I saw from all directions, while simultaneously "being" the object that I saw. Everything multiplied into infinity.
When I came back into my body I was overjoyed that I was allowed back into my own life. Where there were other people and not endless manifestations of my self. I was still extremely intoxicated, though. I ran downstairs and burst into my housemates room who was asleep. I told him that I loved him and that he was a wonderful person. My other housemate arrived home shortly after and had to babysit me for a while because I was still and thought I had discovered the secrets of the universe.
Later on in the night I fell asleep. When I woke up I was so confused in the dark that I thought I was camping next to a motorway and had giant slabs of chicken all over me (it was actually my duvet). I guess with all of the hallucinogens my brain had trouble shifting me from dreaming reality to normal reality. I wasn't even tripped when I turned the light on and remembered what had happened earlier.

Thanks for reading. This was the most intense trip of my life. Much love to all of you!
Edited by lewisplanthead (02/18/11 01:04 AM)
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Asante
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Re: Methoxetamine, Salvia and the many rubber faces of God [Re: lewisplanthead]
#13984128 - 02/18/11 11:32 AM (13 years, 8 days ago) |
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Lord God 
That was a great trip report. Dissociation x Salvia, my word thats ballsy.
I'm glad you came out OK and with such good recollection of what I think will prove a valuable experience, depending on how you digest it.
For those not in the know, Methoxetamine is a PCP/Ketamine analog with opioid side effects:
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Re: Methoxetamine, Salvia and the many rubber faces of God [Re: Asante]
#14053301 - 03/02/11 08:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I like how consciousness stretches out into rows of masks, how the self loves and addresses 4 faces facing eachother, and how integrating this reality seems to minimize any other less extended view of reality.
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lewisplanthead
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Re: Methoxetamine, Salvia and the many rubber faces of God [Re: redgreenvines]
#14121961 - 03/14/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's been a long time since this trip. There have been many trips since this. I'm slightly drunk. Why am I tripping so much? I think my jaw is still slightly ajar from this trip. Do i still love everybody? I smoked a little salvia in my dark room recently. Every sub-breakthrough dose reveals the full nature of my previous breakthrough. Apprently I can only appreciate salvia on salvia. What happened to me? This is a bump. Apparently I am still integrating, contributors. What is love? Is salvia frame stacking subterfuge or concrete reality. When will I know for sure? Question?
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Re: Methoxetamine, Salvia and the many rubber faces of God [Re: lewisplanthead]
#14122677 - 03/14/11 11:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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damn, i wish i had experiances like that on salvia i smoked 25x in one hit and i just fell through dimensions of colors and felt like i was flying at hyperspeed
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Re: Methoxetamine, Salvia and the many rubber faces of God [Re: lewisplanthead]
#14124771 - 03/15/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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it is real in it's context mostly the same physics applies time is not constrained to a line, and space is liberated because time was liberated. but nothing new is introduced the artifacts of frame stacking fill the excess space, and uncertainty follows time's drunken path.
what is real?
some insights from overlay visions will stick, and hold true, revealing the hidden insides after layering the exposed outsides. some lost articles emerge from the deepened shadows of hiding places that were too easy to overlook.
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Re: Methoxetamine, Salvia and the many rubber faces of God [Re: lewisplanthead]
#14144187 - 03/18/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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When I woke up I was so confused in the dark that I thought I was camping next to a motorway and had giant slabs of chicken all over me
Was that fresh chicken or frozen chicken?

Just kidding!
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Every sub-breakthrough dose reveals the full nature of my previous breakthrough. Apprently I can only appreciate salvia on salvia. What happened to me?
Some of your description of the salvia hallucinations reminds me of Frenchmachine's thread - Is Reality a façade or are the Beings/Wheels the façade? (Salvia)
There seem to be some recurring features in the salvia trips I read about, as though it disrupts a specific brain process involved in assembling concious experience into a unified whole from one moment to the next. Maybe salvia gives a useful insight into what your brain does "behind the scenes" to give the illusion of a continuous, autonomous self?
It's all very strange.
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Re: Methoxetamine, Salvia and the many rubber faces of God [Re: Aldebaran]
#14172273 - 03/23/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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MXE + Salvia?! I may just have to give that a go. MXE is seriously something else. It's nothing like opiods though IMO, it has extreme feelings of beatitude in the second half of the trip.
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Re: Methoxetamine, Salvia and the many rubber faces of God [Re: Grapefruit]
#14203173 - 03/29/11 11:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Grapefruit said: MXE + Salvia?! I may just have to give that a go. MXE is seriously something else. It's nothing like opiods though IMO, it has extreme feelings of beatitude in the second half of the trip.
The manic edge of the mxe definitely had a part to play in the decision to smoke such a large amount of salvia. I would compare the "feelings of beatitude" you describe to an opiate experience, though. It's similarly warm and cozy on the comedown.
If you do try mxe and salvia together hold on to your hat.
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Re: Methoxetamine, Salvia and the many rubber faces of God [Re: lewisplanthead]
#14206621 - 03/29/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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lewisplanthead said: My life had been an illusion. I was everybody who I had even known or lived...they were all me...I thought that at the start when creating these masks I had known that in reality they were all me. But eventually, as they constantly multiplied I had spread my consciousness too thin and forgot they they were not real.
Oh my god, this is so uncannily similar to what I have on occasion experienced with salvia. Of course I know to dismiss it as a dissociation/hallucination, but somewhere deep in the back of my mind I can't help but retain the question of, "...But what if that's what's really going on?" Jesus Christ, this shit is spooky as fuck!
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Re: Methoxetamine, Salvia and the many rubber faces of God [Re: lewisplanthead]
#14209872 - 03/30/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Did you smoke it in the first or second half of the trip? IME they are very different in nature. Best to hide drugs your not intending to do while dissociated.
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Re: Methoxetamine, Salvia and the many rubber faces of God [Re: lewisplanthead]
#15596574 - 12/31/11 11:48 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why am I tripping so much?
Because you're looking for something
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Do i still love everybody?
you are everybody. It's entirely your choice
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When will I know for sure?
truth is not hidden, you're hiding from it.
each peak is the launch pad for the next peak and the next peak is not the destination.
The mad is who settle down. the nomad is the one who continue to move on and on
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Re: Methoxetamine, Salvia and the many rubber faces of God [Re: martin]
#15598161 - 12/31/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wow epic lurker
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