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p. subaeruginosa
    #1559390 - 05/19/03 03:34 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

here are some photos of some p. subaeruginosa i found in nsw, australia today :smile:

1. a small selection of what i found


2. same as above, poor light in photo tho
EDIT : improved lighting by editing photo :smile:


3. paper sandwitch bag full.


these look fairly different to the p. sub's i've seen melbournites post
enjoy :smile:

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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: jimbu]
    #1559402 - 05/19/03 03:46 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Shortly a friend of mine is posting pics of a subaeruginosa variant from far-northern NSW that is again quite different to anything else that ive seen from Subaeruginosa.
Nice find and enjoy them mate.
Pls take the time to examine the Eucalypta ive posted as im keen for feedback on their appearance.


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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1559414 - 05/19/03 04:10 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Hi fellas,
Good to see some aussie pics they look like the p. subs from W A my pet rodent is going to get soon he ll try to get some pics while he is there. Can any one send us to a good tek??


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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: trev]
    #1559416 - 05/19/03 04:15 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Tek for cultivation?


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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: jimbu]
    #1559602 - 05/19/03 08:52 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Wow...Great pics jimbu! ....you lucky buggers  :grin: as can travel to colder climes LOL


a sizeable bag indeed! and really nice specimens...well done  :wink: 


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    #1559755 - 05/19/03 10:38 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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    #1565036 - 05/21/03 04:18 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Jimbu they look exactly like the ones I have been finding down here in Melbourne - i was wondering when someone would post some that actually look like mine!
good find... enjoy them!

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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: ganesh]
    #1565056 - 05/21/03 05:00 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

ganesh,

thanks, hehe i will enjoy!

how fricken potent are they?!? i was .... almost unpleasantly surprised..

chomped down 4 the other night (cap size from 1cm diameter to 3cm diameter) and almost lost complete touch with reality... i couldnt understand anything and could hardly make any sense stringing words together. it was actually quite frustrating! incredible visuals as well.

i enjoyed the deep and philosophical conversation i had with a friend once i came down a little and was about to talk moreso than the intense peak :smile:

and yes they seem to be alot lighter in colour and different in shape to the p. sub's that most other people are posting photos of

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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: jimbu]
    #1567909 - 05/21/03 11:55 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)


I know what you mean... with my first find of the season I got home one night and thought to myself - 'ok i'll just have 5 normal sized buggers just to test them out'
They are so damn potent - thought my bed was floating for a few hours - had a great time though! I can never string together enough coherent words when I am on mushrooms to have any sort of conversation unfortunately.... I usually start laughing whenever i have to use my memory (weird i know).... :smile:
I was wondering what dosages other people have - since i don't have any scales it is all guesswork for me which i know is bad but I dont have any other option really... how many do most people have here when they trip on subs?

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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: jimbu]
    #1567927 - 05/22/03 12:02 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Lovely.
If all goes well, I will be searching for the same kind of beauties tomorrow.

EDIT : Last year I came across some from a friend of a friend, and they were pretty fucking potent. The first lot had about 10 or 12 caps, and after drying they looked pretty tiny, and I assumed I would need to eat quite a bit, so ingest about 10 of them. I ended up being sick later, and up to the point, the trip was insanely hard. After puking, things mellowed down (some shrooms came back up, so I guess that's why), but the visuals were still pretty strong.

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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: Sheepish]
    #1568302 - 05/22/03 03:50 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

First subs of the season will send you to jupiter - complete with the highly pressurised atmosphere where all your friends will be blue and have 'stolen your soul.'


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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1570995 - 05/23/03 12:00 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Great p. subaeruginosa, they look a bit dried out by the sun but otherwise just like the ones we find in Melbourne.

jimbu, ganesh......

hahahahaha, doses of 4 and 5 are what I consider a week doses of p. subaeruginosa (we have 6 when we don't want to trip too hard). Me and my friends usually have between 8 and 15 (15 blows your mind away and you end up speaking jiberish all night =D)

And SOOOOO true bluemeanie, first subs of the season blow you away =D




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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: fatasaurus]
    #1571235 - 05/23/03 01:26 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Its true that sometimes you can need up to 14 or so for a strong experience, but i still remember my friend consumming only one specimen and having a profound life-changing experience - so beware they can vary significantly


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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1571512 - 05/23/03 03:51 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

whoah.... so.... i had a strong trip on 4 smallish ones... yet sometimes you need 14?

could every mushroom vary that much in potency??

can anyone give me a rough guide to dosages on subaeruginosa?
perhaps in the number of small or large shrooms required to be eaten for a certain level trip, ala cubensis X gram trip's?

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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: jimbu]
    #1571610 - 05/23/03 06:41 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Indeed, very potent. I just wrote up in my post about the shrooms I found today. I ate half (4 shrooms) and it was VERY potent. Was expecting a rather mild buzz, but actually got a solid Level 2 trip, with strong body buzz, minor visuals. Quite overwhelming. Nausea is a bitch though.
I can imagine 14 of those would absolutely blow my mind.

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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: Sheepish]
    #1573149 - 05/23/03 07:35 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

ok, this is a spinout!

last night (4 x 24hours after my previous trip) i decided to eat some to test out potency again. i ate 3 to begin with, then after an hour or so i was mildly tripping, so i ate another. then over the next half hour i ate a couple more because i didn't feel i was tripping very hard (was getting minor visuals). i've read that eating more once u're already tripping doesnt have much effect.. i ate about 6 in total...

i'm trying to understand how i could trip 10 times harder off 4 shrooms on monday night (where my friend ate more but only tripped mildly), yet trip mildly off more shrooms last night! is it possible i ate an extremely ultra potent mushroom on monday night?

i'm not quite sure how to dose myself anymore! :\

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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: jimbu]
    #1573277 - 05/23/03 08:50 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)


me neither jimbu - at the moment its all a guessing game.... had 5-6 average sized ones a couple of weeks ago and wasn't too bad at all - was still driving my car so I couldnt be that bad.

Maybe the 5 that wasted me a while ago were because they were the first of the season... I think BM is right there. They were mean! I've never seen any go that blue before either.....

Next time I'll go an even 10... I'd love to know more of what other people are dosing of these little buggers...

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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: ganesh]
    #1574030 - 05/24/03 02:48 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah definately the first subs of the season or always the ones that are dangerous. And they vary wildly in potency. Nearly everyone i know who has eaten subaeruginosa always say the same thing. One moment your fine, and then you eat just one more and its off to Jupiter...


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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1574079 - 05/24/03 03:44 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

doh.... i better watch myself.... my recent hunts consisted of a LOT of 'first subs of the season'!

hehehe such a spinout though! to eat 4 small mushrooms in order to 'test potency' and be stuck in another strange unexpected world for hours!

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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: jimbu]
    #1574328 - 05/24/03 09:57 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I think after you eat once in a season all the following trips need higher dosing or dont quiet get you there.
I had 17 P.subs from WA and Jeezus *** long story. :shocked:
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Yeah sorry 4 taking so long bluemeanie I heard you might know something about the outdoor woodlovers tek.


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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: jimbu]
    #1580732 - 05/27/03 04:30 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

doh.... i better watch myself.... my recent hunts consisted of a LOT of 'first subs of the season'!

hehehe such a spinout though! to eat 4 small mushrooms in order to 'test potency' and be stuck in another strange unexpected world for hours!




haha that happened to me, just to test and i got unexpectatly fucked up, last year the ones i had were a bit rotten and about a month old, undried, i took about 12 and got about 2/3rds as fucked as i did off 5 freshies this time.

when was the start of the season by the way?

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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: beam]
    #1580747 - 05/27/03 04:50 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)


hehe... i don't think ill ever work out the *right* dosage.

Start of the season is usually mid-late april i think. I found my first ones this year around about the 23-26th april i think....

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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: ganesh]
    #1617523 - 06/08/03 12:09 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Just two question about hunting for subs in Victoria.

1.  How long does the season last... and is the probability of subs popping up constant throughout the season or are there peaks.

2.  I've heard conflicting views as to where subs actuallycab  grow.  Some ppl suggest they mainly grow from tanbark while others say they can grow anywhere where wood is near (i am aware they are woodlovers).  Is thre likely to be many mushies in the hills/forest simply from a kind of natural mulch?... i've also seen sub pics, growing out of wet leaves.

Thanks in asvance for any help :smile:

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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: ganesh]
    #1617570 - 06/08/03 12:37 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Hey guys,
Just thinking about the dosages, rather than talking about the # of shrooms consumed, maybe people could start weighing their doses? It could be a much more consistent way of dosing. Especially considering subaeruginosa can vary in size quite a bit from patch to patch.
I agree that there is also potency variation from patch to patch as I have weighed subaeruginosa doses before and had definite potency differences. But still, it would be interesting to see if the people eating 4 shrooms and the people eating 10 shrooms are actually eating roughly the same weight, if ya get what I mean.
OK now I just feel like I'm rambling. :P


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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: zee_werp]
    #1617641 - 06/08/03 01:35 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

how long the season lasts basically depends on the weather.... when it starts warming up and stops raining, they'll stop growing.

from my small hunting experiences, you're much more likely to find subaeruginosa growing plentifully in woodchipped areas (parks and reserves) - although im not sure what type of woodchips i've found them in. however i've also found them growing in the same area from natural eucalypt mulch (ie. bark, leaves and twigs).

as for potency... it's difficult to judge it by weight, because the smaller specimens seem to be ALOT more potent by weight than the larger specimens! you could eat a large specimen weighing 1 dried gram, and trip alot less than eating 10 smaller specimens totally 1 dried gram.

most of the sub's i've found tend to be on the small side, however - between 1-3cm diameter....

i'd regard 1-2cm specimens as 'small' and 3cm specimens as 'medium' sized.

10 subs (mixed sizes - small and medium) generally make me trip rather hard.

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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: jimbu]
    #1618469 - 06/08/03 02:12 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

pardon me for this might be an abnormally stupid question but I was wondering............

WHy exactly is it that the 1st P. Subs of the season are soooooo much more out of this world potent than the ones later on in the season?

I live in the southeast U.S. and to my experience the cubes I find from beginning to end vary in potency no Doubt but no sooo much from the start like you all say.

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    #1618510 - 06/08/03 02:39 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

sometime last year in one of MJs posts about P. Cyans I think I remember reading that he said they are most potent when the weather is at its utmost coldest.

Is this why?

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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: cube421]
    #1618588 - 06/08/03 03:15 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

I never said they were more potent when it is coldest. Each individual shroom has a different balance of chemicals in it when placed next to another shroom of the same species. And different species have different potencies.

P. cyanescens in its young stage are the most potent of mushrooms. Here is an example of their power. You can have four to five large mushrooms such as these postred below, weighing one fresh ounce and only get four to six people high.



and then you could have a one ounce bag of many baby P. cyanescens weighing one fresh ounce and get 20 people high on the same weight. But that has only been found to occur with P. cyanescens. Some say P. subaeruginosa are also potent in the button stages.

Here is the picture of small potent Psoilocybe cyanescens.


A once fresh ounce bag could have from 25-40 or more one to two inch high small P. cyanescens and get as many as 20 people high with no problem at all.

mj

As for P. subbs, I find the first large fruitings of them are nice and potent when consumed inthe same day as they were picked. They lose somewhat in drying but their dose should be one fresh ounce or more and 3-5 dried grasm for a level 3 trip or higher.

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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1618641 - 06/08/03 03:38 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

oh ok, Dunno what I was thinking- Maybe I read GG say something about that about the cubes he finds. maybe not..

I just thought I heard that from somebody- my apologies.

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    #1620022 - 06/09/03 03:49 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

'hey lose somewhat in drying but their dose should be one fresh ounce or more and 3-5 dried grasm for a level 3 trip or higher.'
MJ do you mean Ps.Subaeruginosa or Panaeolus Subbalt.??
The first subs can be more potent generally because of the amount of nutrients available in the fresh woodchips and mulch. Psilocybe Subaeruginosa is a primary decomposer, and these woods at the start of the season would have a higher sap and nutrient content.
Id say that consumption of more than 12 subs dried or fresh should give you a pretty high level experience. But it depends on the person, and the potency of the fruits. It is more likely that one or two of the twelve will be extremely potent, and the other ten only mildly. I think everyone who has experience with subs would say that there is always a point where just one more mushroom is consummed and the night goes from mild fun to extreme mind-bending dmt land.


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Re: p. subaeruginosa [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1620375 - 06/09/03 10:16 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

I was referring tot he small P. subaeruginosa babies as nbeing very potent by weight when compared to one large shroom. IT would not take anything near the weight odf a large on to get a good rewarding ewxperience.

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    #1623355 - 06/10/03 09:26 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

I can vouch for the potency of the button/small P. subaeruginosa weight+ potency ratio. Also the potency variation between each shroom.
But I thought this was consistent in all shrooms. The only experience a random
protizoa has had with P.cubes is with abhorts and one or two full growns, probably more hallucinogenic than most P.sub trips as subs are seemingly more grounding
(some times I feel like I am the very earth that sustains all life and welcome my return to its soil becaus of the mess my fellow humans have created, but not in a suicidal way). The p.cubes where very auditoraly hallucinogenic. From A small amount of experience Gotta go.


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