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Re: League of Legends [Re: Sundrop]
    #15607202 - 01/02/12 09:43 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

teemo is an ap charactor ap is the most efficient way to play him lol, like i said u do need a balanced team, and some health based ap items so he's not a stick, and like i said attack speed to boost his E passive.  Now thats not to say you don't adjust to a situation, im saying this is how i start out.  If there's tankish items then sure u add a mandreds


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Re: League of Legends [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #15608067 - 01/03/12 12:43 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

just because his skills scale with ap, that doesn't mean he is best built that way...


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Re: League of Legends [Re: Sundrop]
    #15608308 - 01/03/12 01:38 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

actually it does since all his skills are ap based, you go ad all u have is ad, makes every skill he has useless besides blind, so your running around just shooting people, when u can do about half the damage with his E passive, and then do massive damage with Q and R.  You can do well with ad, but he's not built for it, and does better with AP, simple concept


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Re: League of Legends [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #15608373 - 01/03/12 01:59 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Would you like to do a game with me to learn how to properly play teemo? lol 

His shrooms still slow without ap, they still give map awareness, his poison still poisons without ap, and his blind still blinds without ap. 

I never said you couldn't build him AP, but I'm saying it is the worse way to build him.

http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/get-me-teemo-over-here-with-a-blowgun-82617

A build like this is much better than going AP, always and regardless.  Unless you are playing on a smurf account where the people are idiots.

Gangplank has only 1 skill that scales with AD, and he has 2 that scale with AP, but people build him AD. Hrmmm...


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Re: League of Legends [Re: Sundrop]
    #15608491 - 01/03/12 02:38 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

thats because that one skill he has is crit based, bit of an exception there don't you think? not to mention gp is melee lol. all of teemo's skills do hardly any damage if u don't get ap, so no they are basically useless.  If your not getting items to scale any of your skills, u might as well just play someone else.  I play teemo great as ap, and its always better than ad because i play ap like a mage should be played.  If your trying to fight straight up then ad would win, but stick and move and you'll surpress your lane alot quicker because the ap scales alot quicker.  Then when u get in a fight you drop a mushroom on someones feet, do 1100 damage, Q them 2 times = another 1200 damage not many will ive from that.  And at endgame unless you stack tank items your going to get targeted and popped trying to fight straight up as ad, thats why ap makes more sense.  If you only have 5-10 seconds to live ap will do more damage, if your staying at a distance to live, popping in and out with Q will do more damage and safer

if your playing 5's with 5 people standing ontop you so u don't die then maybe, but thats only because you wouldn't be able to drop a mushroom where it would hit without putting yourself out there for a pop.  Still on paper lets say your attack speed is the same, your talking on your guide 168 ad damage + something like 80 from health, vs 300ap damage on blindshot and i forget what E gets but its over 50 maybe 80 and i think thats x2 as one is on hit and other over 4 seconds or something.  so E alone takes you to your base damage minus the mandreds damage on health

I know u can get higher damage and have an option for crits u surpass that, even then its all based on how long u can live, and you can kite alot easier with Q and poison.  and when someone hits a real teemo ap based mushroom, they turn around, not keep running at you and we've all seen that and done it.  Which brings me to another point u can take out an entire team with mushrooms alone, ive done it before and was some major lolz.


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Re: League of Legends [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #15608637 - 01/03/12 03:40 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Alright, keep playing teemo ap.  I guess when you said you only play 3's, I shouldn't of even bothered arguing. 

If you get a wit's, madreds, and malady, those all add on hit effects to go with his poison.  Also, they all do magic damage.  I think you underestimate the amount of damage the madreds alone does (especially with the meta being stuck in atmogs).  Add me if you are up for a game...I don't do 3's, though.  They are way too boring.

Oh yeah, I just remembered...All of tristana's skills scale with AP, yet she is one of the strongest AD carries in the game.  Yep, she works if she's built as ap, but it isn't anywhere near as effective as building her ad.  What the skills scale with doesn't always matter.


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Re: League of Legends [Re: Sundrop]
    #15608803 - 01/03/12 05:33 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

yah your right u shouldn't have bothered because 3's take more skill, 5's u have more people to carry you. In other words all the fights have a bit less of you to do with a win or loss. However the main reason i hate 5's is because your running half the time.  And nobody plays trists in 3's except complete noobs so i havn't played her enough to comment.  those other items only add like 80 damage, still well below the extra 600 damage a mushroom adds.  Plus those are debatably part of some ap build's reducing enemys magic resistance and adding magic damage to your shot lol.  Not sure what your getting at with atmogs but w/e.  Anyways if u want to play with/against me u have to play 3's.


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Re: League of Legends [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #15609887 - 01/03/12 01:25 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

5's take less skill than 3's? Right...You have to carry 4 dumb asses instead of 2.  Of course no one plays trist in 3's, she is a late game champ.  3's are short and easy...Keep playing your AP teemo :wink:.  Anyone with sense would just buy an oracle and a banshees veil.  I won't argue with you anymore, though. 

You don't know what I'm getting at with the atmogs?  There are normally at least 2 champs on the opposite team that have beefy HP (in 5vs5s, obviously), which means madreds is a must.  You know, it takes a % of hp on each hit? 


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Re: League of Legends [Re: DivineIntensity]
    #15611025 - 01/03/12 06:07 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I play. 

GobblesDaTurkey is my LoL name.  I only ever play random team games.  I think i am at least pretty decent.  My win average is about 50%.  I think i have 500-600 games or so played.


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Re: League of Legends [Re: baraka]
    #15612402 - 01/03/12 10:40 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

My usernames Jordooee =] Current on 250 or so wins...

play akali, lee sin, soraka and almost at 6.3k ip for a new ad carry not sure yet..

Add me anyone and i'll play when i'm on


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Re: League of Legends [Re: jffdjt23231256]
    #15613080 - 01/04/12 01:18 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

i didn't say 5's were easier i said they took less skill it has less to do with you.  In 3's its a much more personal game, 5's u have these massive ganks that really just has to do with planning and almost zero to do with actual skill.  ganks happen in 3's to yes, but u for the most part have a much better chance of excaping those.  3's have more to do with you that simple.

and u can counter either build so your point is pretty pointless as can they be countered as mentioned before by nuking the guy with oracle it becomes a benifit to the team making them buy them, u can still plant mushrooms at peoples feet and bushes which i also mentioned and banshee's can be countered by people using there spells on the guy.  its only good once every 60 seconds, blindshot is ready every 7 or so.

as for atmogs i didn't get what your point was because its not part of your build u listed. u listed no health items and no atma so?  and if u actually read my posts you'd realize i factored in mandreds damage so why would u even ask?


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Re: League of Legends [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #15687276 - 01/19/12 11:02 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

3s are kinda lame

IMO

sure they are fun, and take some degree if skill

a 5v5 with all players using audio, takes much more "skill" than 3v3


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Re: League of Legends [Re: k00laid]
    #15687796 - 01/19/12 01:20 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

One could argue 5's are easier cause they have more people, or one could argue 3's are easier cause of less people to keep up with...
Its all personal preference...

So play what you play, and :suckit:


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Re: League of Legends [Re: total]
    #15688471 - 01/19/12 04:01 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

total said:
One could argue 5's are easier cause they have more people, or one could argue 3's are easier cause of less people to keep up with...
Its all personal preference...

So play what you play, and :suckit:





well as far as a list of viable champions

there are champions that if you choose them on 3v3

its auto lose


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Re: League of Legends [Re: k00laid]
    #15691130 - 01/20/12 03:40 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I just started playing this game today. Super addictive. It reminds me a lot of DotA. Very fun.
I'd love to play with some Shroomerites. Feel free to add me. My in game name is the same as my name here. :bigjoint:


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Re: League of Legends [Re: r72rock]
    #15701523 - 01/22/12 01:28 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I just started playing again after taking a few months off..feel free to add me.. Licker of Cats is my in game name.


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Re: League of Legends [Re: Pancho The Dog]
    #15704659 - 01/23/12 12:18 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

think i'm going to start playing this again, it's pretty fun.


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Re: League of Legends [Re: Cloud9]
    #15707867 - 01/23/12 07:01 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

anyone watch the IEM kiev tourney?

if you didnt, and you like competitive league

you missed out


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Re: League of Legends [Re: k00laid]
    #15774628 - 02/07/12 06:05 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

I'm on right now if anybody is, Fuck solo queue.


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Re: League of Legends [Re: DivineIntensity]
    #15776681 - 02/08/12 12:17 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

i am but i just started a game

6 hours later bahaha


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