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    #1558557 - 05/18/03 10:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I?m just now getting to a place in my life where I can concentrate on on wild mushroom hunting and Identification. I have "Mushrooms Demystified" on the way. Here was a find (Figure0) on a recent hike that I immediately assumed to be Psilocybe Cubensis based on the habitat I found them in (Figure1). Upon further inspection I realized that it was most likely not a psilocybe primarily because of the color of the gills (Figure2) and the lack of bluing when opened and scraped(Figure3). A few hours later proved that the spores (Figure4) were not the dark purple synonomous with psilocybes. In case the color comes through wrong for you I?d say these spores range in color from a brown to gold. I?m betting this mushroom is simple to identify. I appreciate any input.
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Re: Noob to ID [Re: debianlinux]
    #1558573 - 05/18/03 10:13 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

dont eat it


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    #1558617 - 05/18/03 10:22 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

hehe, I don't even have it anymore. i pitched the remains immediately after getting the necessary pics.


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Re: Noob to ID [Re: debianlinux]
    #1558773 - 05/18/03 10:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm betting this mushroom is simple to identify.




I think you'll lose that bet. That mushroom looks like it's just past its identify-by-date, which makes it even more difficult.

Given habitat and overall appearance my first thought is Agaricus. But the spore print color looks wrong for that genus.

Given the spore print color, it should fall in somewhere around Cortinarius or Pholiota. If I have to guess between them I'd go with Cortinarius. The problem with that is that Cortinarius is a mycorrhizal genus. Were there any trees nearby?


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    #1558924 - 05/19/03 12:05 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Could it be an Inocybe?


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    #1558946 - 05/19/03 12:17 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, it could. For most of those I would have thought he'd mention the smell.

debianlinux - was there a noticeable odor to the mushroom?


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    #1559463 - 05/19/03 07:50 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

There were tons of trees within a hundred yards but the location depicted in Figure1 was quite simply the muddy, dungy entrance to a horse pasture right outside the barn. I seriously doubt this to be a mycorrhizal fungi. Right behind the camera in Figure1 is a stack of aged, cut trees of several varieties. They are very aged and there would be no root system. I did smell it several times but it has no smell any different from psilocybes, white buttons, or any number of "normal" smelling mushrooms. It was the lone mushroom within a 15 foot radius.


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    #1559623 - 05/19/03 11:14 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Mycorrhizal mushrooms can occur anywhere within the height of the tree they're associated with. So if there was a tree 60 feet away but the tree was 60 feet tall, the mushrooms could be growing from that tree.

Going with your statement that it's not mycorrhizal, it's probably a member of the Pholiota alnicola complex of mushrooms. That's a group of very similar species that can be distinguished only with a microscope. Usually they are found in groups or clusters (another reason I didn't want to go with Pholiota at first).

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    #1559671 - 05/19/03 11:47 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for your input. I can't wait to start cutting my teeth on identification. I can assure you that there were no trees close enough to this mushroom for it to be mycorrhizal. I will keep an eye on this area in hopes of finding another younger specimen.


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