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mrr0gers
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My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix....
#1558357 - 05/18/03 06:47 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I now have understood that weed affects a mushroom "trip" in a bad way, a bad trip. Take a trip back: you are stoned at your house with your parents there in there, you are 15, in your room, door locked and can't maintain for the life of you. Mom comes not on the door to say goodnight, but you think she smells it. You get paranoid and your heart races. Thats just getting paranoid of somthing that DOES exist. See, smoking weed on shrooms, the mushrooms give you the added bonus of hallucinating. Imagine hallucinating while paranoid; it would make you paranoid over shit that isn't there, but merely just a shadow on the wall.
Im stoned while writing this, so if it doesn't make sense, sue me
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RebelSteve33
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: mrr0gers]
#1558469 - 05/18/03 07:40 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's all about the time and place you do it, though. Any Shroomerite knows that setting is of utmost importance to the outcome of a mushroom trip.
Of course paranoia is going to result if you are smoking weed, tripping on shrooms, and have to interact with one or both of your parental units. But if it's done in a paranoia-free situation, the chances are that nothing but good will result.
In my own experience, smoking weed while tripping on mushrooms has done nothing but influence the trip in a completely positive manner. This is because I kept in mind the fact that setting is of extreme importance, though.
So what I'm trying to say is that your thesis is only true in certain situations. Since it is not true all of the time, your argument that marijuana and shrooms are a bad mix really has no validity.
Peace, Brother!
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DailyPot
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: RebelSteve33]
#1558551 - 05/18/03 08:07 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Its a good theory and I agree you should keep shrooms and weed seperate but its also wrong. You would wig out if your mom came to your room while you were tripping also
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liftedoff420
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: DailyPot]
#1558754 - 05/18/03 08:50 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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i disagree with your theory
have you ever actaully smoked weed whilke shrooming?
for me it takes the trip into a very enjoyable chaotic extremely visual mindfuck experiance..and i love it!!
i experiance more paranoia off just shrooms, when i hit the weed the trip goes from paranoid to more fun
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: liftedoff420]
#1558815 - 05/18/03 09:09 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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yep, tripped yesterday and finally decided i was gonna wait till right after the peak to smoke... holy fuck, that shit sent me right back up there... there wasn't visuals till i smoked
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DailyPot
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: liftedoff420]
#1558816 - 05/18/03 09:09 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Its different for everyone. While you are 'more fucked up' if you do the two together I feel it takes away for the indivisual quality of the two. You dont get the casual high from mixing and the trip isn't special. Its less spiritual I guess. Whatever, I like them seperate hehe.
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: DailyPot]
#1558862 - 05/18/03 09:29 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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IMO, tripn without erbal refreshments is like getting real drunk without any cigs-- its still fun but missing something. they go together like peanut butter and jelly.
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mrr0gers
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: mrr0gers]
#1558885 - 05/18/03 09:36 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shit. Sorry. I didn't mean a bad mix for everybody, but just for the people who try the mix and the end result is baaaaaaad.
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ShroomyJ
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: mrr0gers]
#1559350 - 05/19/03 02:45 AM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm never ever paranoid about stupid things when I'm stoned, "stay real" is my advise. Shrooms + Weed = twice as fun as without it.. makes you have something to do too, rolling a joint is weird on mushies I have had NO visuals on mushrooms without weed... for me it's a must!
Edited by ShroomyJ (05/19/03 02:49 AM)
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Roger_irrelevant
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: ShroomyJ]
#1559452 - 05/19/03 05:29 AM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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No visuals= Not dosing high enough...nuff said
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DailyPot
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: Roger_irrelevant]
#1560199 - 05/19/03 01:48 PM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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Exactly! Its better to stick to shrooms alone. If you're not getting what you want dont mix it w/ other stuff, just eat more.
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: DailyPot]
#1560588 - 05/19/03 03:47 PM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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I smoke dank for the most part of the trip, especially on the come up and when I am coming off the peak. Weed + Shrooms = A damn fine time. I had panic attacks for a couple months in high school from my weed and acid consumption, but I was able to work through them quite easily.
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: DailyPot]
#1560597 - 05/19/03 03:50 PM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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I agree that SETTING is a huge factor. I personally love to smoke weed with shrooms. I usually smoke a couple bowls right after the peak, and I smoke some bowls when I'm coming down hard. I find that marijuana really helps with what I've come to call "Shroom Depression". You know, that feeling of exhaustion and hopelessness that sometimes accompanies the come down of a powerful trip.
But as far as setting...one time I was camping with some friends and I had eaten 2 grams and smoked a few bowls. Trip wasn't too intense at all, but one of the guys mentioned that the place we were camping wasn't a legal camping spot (which was untrue, he was just trying to sketch us out). Well...the weed really made the paranoia bad, despite my efforts to quell my worries. But other than that, I find that marijuana really chills me out and makes the trip even better.
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: mrr0gers]
#1562096 - 05/20/03 12:33 AM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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weed doesn't cause paranoia - your brain does
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ShroomyJ
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: DailyPot]
#1562367 - 05/20/03 04:52 AM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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Als antwoord op:
Exactly! Its better to stick to shrooms alone. If you're not getting what you want dont mix it w/ other stuff, just eat more.
Yeah.. but I ate enough, a whole portion, that's 3g and I only weigh 62 kg (1.75m long) Should be enough.. ah well my stomach wasn't completely empty and I had eaten during coming up so that was more of a problem.
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: liftedoff420]
#1564774 - 05/21/03 12:24 AM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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st0nedphucker
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: ]
#1565166 - 05/21/03 07:55 AM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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IMHO cannabis and shrooms are a great mix. I have only tripped once and not smoked mj, that was my first time. I find the weed is very relaxing and to me it is a comfort thing, when im tripping I feel a lot more comfortable with a joint in my hand as it is a reminder of the "real world". However once I was stuck in some sort of mind-loop where I was sat there asking myself "am I tripping?" over and over again. In hindsight it seems absolutely stupid as I clearly was (hence the visuals and quite alarming confusion), in situations where your mind is already distorted and you begin to panic I think weed can sometimes only add to an already agitated state of mind. Then again I have often found that a nice joint eases me into a trip and pushes me gently along the psychedelic stream. So i'd have to say shrooms + weed = a geat experience. Peace guys
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tooky
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: st0nedphucker]
#1568967 - 05/22/03 11:19 AM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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blah blah blah blah... blah do shrooms, smoke weed, sepreately or together, whatever makes you feel good. in fact, try all the combinations and make your own mind up
-------------------- -- "Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life." - Terry Pratchett, Jingo, 1997
Edited by tooky (05/22/03 11:21 AM)
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: tooky]
#1585348 - 05/28/03 02:46 PM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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I am addicted to weed and if I take mushies alone I go crazy. Anyway, they produce such a great relaxing, trance-like feeling for me. The two together are my favorite combination. :0)
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Re: My Thesis on why Marijuana and Shrooms are a bad Mix.... [Re: acidfairy]
#1586530 - 05/28/03 09:16 PM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well my friend wanted to test this out so the last time he tripped, he didn't smoke. He also tried the complete darkness and silence. He took 5 dried grams, plus 2 grams of passion flower pills. At most it was a super low level 3. More likely a 2.5. At T+ 3 hours, he decided to smoke some dro. His peak was starting to finish, but this launched him to a good level 3. He won't trip without smoking again.
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