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TransMute
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Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated!
#15573834 - 12/26/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is my first grow. This cake started to pin in the jar 3 days after being fully colonized. After doing some reading, I am almost positive it was because I would check the jars three or four times a day during colonization and although I didn't turn it completely upside down, I'm willing to bet I turned it enough to cause the gas exchange problem that leads to early pinning. I let the pin grow for a couple of days before I decided to birth two days earlier than I had planned (so overall it had 5 days of consolidation.)
So the mushroom in the pic had grown about 1.5-2" in the jar. I dunked the cake overnight and used a spoon to drop verm onto the areas of the cake that had no pins at all. In the process of washing before the dunk, this mushroom had become loosely attached to the cake. It looked like it was hanging on by just a few strands of mycelium. After the dunk it seemed like it had actually continued to grow so I decided to leave it on and see what would happen. After putting it in the SGFC I positioned the mushroom so that it was resting on top of the cake, I figured it would relieve the tension at the base and allow it to re attach to the cake as the newer mycelium started to grow (just a guess). The cake has now been in the FC for two full days with one other cake that had early pinning as well. As of this morning (day three in FC), it has fuzzy growth all along the stalk, which to me looks like the typical new mycelium growth I saw in a lot of the pictures on the forum (can you guys verify this from the pic or is it unclear?) But as you can see in the close up there is a very small spot of green, which I know is contamination.
The rest of the cake looks just fine, as does the other one in the chamber. Since the mushroom was fairly disconnected from the cake, should I just pick this mushie off and throw it away? Do you think this ruined the rest of the cake and/or the other (again referring to the mushie being slightly separated from the cake)?
I still have three jars that are consolidating, all of which look like they are starting to have some pins. I won't know this for sure until tonight or tomorrow morning. I'm concerned because if this contaminate is going to ruin my FC for this set of cakes then I need to act now to fix it so that I can birth the remaining jars.
Oh and they smell like they should and I don't have a hygrometer so I can't say what the humidity is. I am keeping the temperature at 75 and I can assure you that I followed the TEK exactly. The only mistake I feel like I may have made was right after adding the cakes to the FC...I waited about 45 minutes and sprayed them probably a little too much. I sprayed two more times that day and fanned probably 6-7 times. Since I thought this was too much water, I only sprayed once yesterday (very lightly) and fanned 6-7 times throughout the day. I have not sprayed any water this morning but did fan before I noticed the green spot...which worries me about spreading it!

You can see the very small green spot at the base of the stalk right before it curves to go into the side of the cake, it's part of the fuzzy myc so it's kind of hard to see. Let me know if I need to circle it or something. Also, the entire stalk looked normal at first (like it does below the cap in the pic) then the fuzzy myc grew out of it. Don't know if that matters anything but just in case
Edited by TransMute (12/26/11 11:20 AM)
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Re: Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: TransMute]
#15573851 - 12/26/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks ok to me
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Re: Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: high country hero]
#15573915 - 12/26/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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There's nothing wrong with your cake. Just be patient and cut down on the misting and fanning. It's common for a first time grower to poke and touch their cakes which only does more harm than good. If you dunked your cakes than you only need to mist a couple times a day and fan 3 or 4 times a day after misting. Be patient. Happy tripping!
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Re: Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: Evil Toadstool]
#15573923 - 12/26/11 11:31 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the responses! I just wanna make sure you guys know tho that I'm asking about the green contaminate spot, how it may affect the cake and what I should do about it rather than the current condition of the cake. Since I spotted the contaminate early I might have a chance to save it and as of now the cake is going to look as it should.
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Re: Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: Evil Toadstool]
#15573946 - 12/26/11 11:38 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have the same thing going on with my mushies too. Mines actually a lot worse... mine are covered in white fuzz in little plumes and puffs so like the last two posters said too, it should be fine.
just keep a mindful eye over what your growing, tending care for what your trying to sustain. watching for contams, which means watching for peculiar things like yellowing on your mycelium... any color changes.
blueing is normal.. on stems you have harvested, or touched. your mushies will bruise.
Edited by KittyKat (12/26/11 11:41 AM)
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Re: Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: KittyKat]
#15573952 - 12/26/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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just keep an eye on it... if it spreads and expands. then thats DEFF NOT blueing/bruising.
watch for it turn an emerald green color if it already hasnt... lets just hope thats bruising and not trike'
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Re: Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: KittyKat]
#15573976 - 12/26/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I dont want to triple post but I need to clarify something here if I already havent..
the white fuzz growing up and down your stem there is normal... mostly, and shouldnt be a problem. It causes? Im not completely sure, might be the environment your mushies are in...
the little green blue spot could possibly be a bruise, which would make sense if you had touched the mushroom. Or it could have bruised on its own somehow. BUT if it expands.. spreads.. grows more.. then its something else.
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Re: Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: KittyKat]
#15574002 - 12/26/11 11:52 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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i think this picture is showing a mushroom stipe being turned back into mycelium, because its so attached to the cake with so much surface area.
if the fuzz continues up the stipe where it is not touching the cake, then its probably a result of high co2 levels.
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Re: Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: k00laid]
#15574028 - 12/26/11 11:57 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: clueless]
#15574241 - 12/26/11 01:00 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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The "green" spot looks like a bruise to me. When a bluish bruise is on a yellowish stem, the result often looks greenish.
Mushrooms themselves rarely contaminate. If the green spot is on the substrate itself, then keep a close eye on it.
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Re: Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: k00laid]
#15575131 - 12/26/11 05:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
k00laid said: i think this picture is showing a mushroom stipe being turned back into mycelium, because its so attached to the cake with so much surface area.
if the fuzz continues up the stipe where it is not touching the cake, then its probably a result of high co2 levels.
Looks like you're spot on! I checked it out again a little while ago and it looks like the mushie has grown a little more and the fuzz stops right at the cake. It is also less hairy looking than it was this morning. This won't cause any harm to the fruit right? Thank you for the help!
KittyKat and freespeech - Thank you for your help as well! Taking a closer look at the colored spot, it does look like it is beneath the fuzzy part as apposed to being a part of it and so far hasn't gotten any bigger than what it was earlier. I'm assuming the bruising will stay for the rest of the growth right?
I went ahead and birthed the remaining three jars, they are soaking in water now but this time around I'm not going to put any verm on them. Hopefully all will go well
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Re: Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: TransMute]
#15575276 - 12/26/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Usually just the base of the mushroom will grow a little fuzz like that but the whole stem seems to if it's growing while still inside the jar.
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Re: Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: Kizzle]
#15575360 - 12/26/11 06:40 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Happened to me and I kinda got paranoid. You good man
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Re: Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: Blake_Shroom]
#15575508 - 12/26/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks to me like you need more FAE.
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Re: Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: kcbennie]
#15575770 - 12/26/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your problem is FAE.
Drill more holes.
Fan more.
That's it.
100% sure your problem is FAE. This is a sign of CO2 build up. Stop it.
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Re: Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: xenzaka]
#15575778 - 12/26/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also when you mist, let it fall "like rain", you're misting it a lot directly and causing it to drip and pool on the foil. It's not a huge problem but I would advise against it.
This problem will lessen as you increase the FAE.
FAE is going to give you larger fruit bodies so consider upping FAE. Sorry for double post. Good job otherwise.
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Re: *UPDATE* Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: xenzaka]
#15582378 - 12/28/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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So here's what the bruised mushroom looks like now. The bruising definitely spread throughout the whole stem and the cap also got much smaller as of this morning. Should I cut it from the cake?
I cut down on misting and moved the FC. It was in my closet at first, which I'm assuming was why it was not getting adequate FAE because I have more than enough holes drilled. So now it is right outside of my closet door, it's elevated and I keep my ceiling fan on with the bedroom door shut to help with FAE. It has been like this since Monday morning. There are a few new sets of pins at the bottom of the cake that are looking good! I'm fanning 4-5 times a day and misting 1-2 times. I also birthed and dunked the remaining three jars but did not roll them, they seem to be doing well and have more pins than the other two cakes that are covered with verm.
So now my question is about the fat, stubby growth on the two cakes with verm. Even though I cut down on misting I'm still thinking too much water??
Edited by TransMute (12/28/11 11:00 AM)
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Re: *UPDATE* Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: TransMute]
#15582497 - 12/28/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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your problem is with your FAE and humidity. seems like the myc is reaching out for fresh air.
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Re: *UPDATE* Fuzzy growth on most of mushroom and most likely contaminated! [Re: TransMute]
#15582541 - 12/28/11 11:30 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
TransMute said: 
this mushroom has aborted.
pick it.
it is safe to eat.
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