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Prepare to evacuate soul
#1557430 - 05/18/03 06:57 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well last night i dozed Aya for the first time. I used an ounce of mimosa hostilis, but i had no money to buy a coffee grinder so i had to tear it in bits myself, which was done quite well i tell you. I boiled it 3 times, boiled it down and separated into two doses. The high was very cerebral, i had some tracers but i had no OBE no matter how long i tried. I found my thoughts wandering in all directions and i couldn't focus. I felt no entities, no vision hallucinations besides tracers. But my thinking activity was greatly enhanced. All extraterrestrial brain circuits pumping away. For the first time ever i actually felt i was immortal, i didn't have that on mushrooms. Anyway, i'm definitely doing it again, i want to buy a grinder and have a power trip with OBE and everything else. Right now i'm having the hardest time convincing how i felt, i used to think that we have this non-physical non-biological quantum consciousness centred in pineal gland but needed energy to survive. Then i read that besides chakras we have a non-physical energy storage facility. What is clear is that the greater the energy the greater the quality of consciousness. The question is does our consciousness die off when no energy is available?
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: cleaner]
#1557734 - 05/18/03 12:10 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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The body is temporary...consciousness is eternal
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: Shroomism]
#1558111 - 05/18/03 04:06 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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But if the soul is light, couldn't it die if it entered a black hole?
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: Murex]
#1558211 - 05/18/03 05:14 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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whose to say any of us know the absolute answers to anythign to accurately answer any of the questions?
or any questions?
it never stops: once i think i'v found the explaination, the truth, the answer - another layer is peeled back and I realized I didn't really understand..
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: 11polakie11]
#1558220 - 05/18/03 05:18 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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nobody knows shit. just have fun and do cool things, then you die.
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you didnt mention an maoi did you use one?. cuz that doesnt sound like an ayahuasca trip ,it could have been all placebo.that much with an maoi and you should have been elvishialand
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: buckwheat]
#1558296 - 05/18/03 06:09 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I used an ounce of mimosa hostilis, but i had no money to buy a coffee grinder so i had to tear it in bits myself, which was done quite well i tell you.
Be careful when you get your coffee grinder. 8-15 grams of finely ground Mimosa has been known to knock heavy hitters on their asses. AFOAF tried it many times at 15 grams then went down to 8-10g for a light ride that turned into an earth shattering experience. Also Mimosa is known for a more visual experience compared to chacruna. I suspect you had some trouble with the brew if you used an ounce of Mimosa and had little visuals. If you are using an ounce when you get it right watch out!
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: phreakyzen]
#1558321 - 05/18/03 06:25 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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that why i was thinking i dont think he used an maoi.or he did the brew wrong
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: Murex]
#1558611 - 05/18/03 08:21 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, it would then become nothing.
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: ]
#1558778 - 05/18/03 08:58 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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dude, nobody who makes ayahuasca is going to forget the maoi. Sounds like a low dose trip, that's all.
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: Dogomush]
#1558788 - 05/18/03 09:00 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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dude, nobody who makes ayahuasca is going to forget the maoi. Sounds like a low dose trip, that's all.
low dose with one ounce!!
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: cleaner]
#1558834 - 05/18/03 09:17 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think that consciousness IS energy or a form of it (I don't know from what source I came across this idea or how to prove it), the "divine spark" if you will, and if the first law of energy is correct then consciousness merely moves or migrates to another part of the cosmos at death, as Shroomism said the body dies but consciousness continues on.
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: AislingGheal]
#1558921 - 05/18/03 10:02 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah.. one ounce low dose.. ya got me.. could be crappy mimosa..
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: Dogomush]
#1559436 - 05/19/03 04:56 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well i devided the dose in 2 parts, i had no problem with the first one, one hour later i drunk the other one and puked 
And of course i ate maoi, about 10 grams of grounded rue
Dont blame Mimosa bark, i have very thick skin, i need about 50 grams of cubenis to reach level 3.
I'm gonna get a coffee gridner and try again.
Now about soul. Check out this article. http://www.astralpulse.com/articles/others/articles_42.htm
You do know that while you out of body, you constantly derive energy from it, with the so called Silver Cord. Since *richness* of consciousness depends on the amount of energy you receiving, wouldn't it *end* when no more energy is coming?
The professor in that text describes someone observing dying people and their energy expands from chakra reservoirs.
The miff about Heaven and hell could be true. If you give out positive karma it accumulates in you and if you give out negative, you become negatively charged after death and descend in the low planes of existence.
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: Murex]
#1559971 - 05/19/03 12:17 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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But if the soul is light, couldn't it die if it entered a black hole?
Ah but then you must first know exactly what a black hole is and what its purpose is. A black hole is essentialy a dying star...or from a metaphysical perspective, a star going within in order to be reborn. The soul is not exempt from the endless universal cycles of creation and destruction.
A black hole is merely a star imploding at the speed of light thus creating mass so dense that no light can be observed as escaping. However, without ever experiencing it for oneself, no one can assume what would happen.
However, the Universe expands and contracts, just like we breathe.. and just like every other natural cycle in the cosmos. The stars are born, then they die, cogitize, and are reborn. We as humans are born, we experience life, we die, we cogitize, and are born again, until we become stars. Capiche?
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: Shroomism]
#1560202 - 05/19/03 01:50 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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But your ego would surely be destroyed if your soul entered a black hole.
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: Murex]
#1560224 - 05/19/03 01:58 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Soul does not have ego, that is a product of the physical brain.
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: Shroomism]
#1560267 - 05/19/03 02:12 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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"However, the Universe expands and contracts, just like we breathe.."
I thought there were recent claims made that state the universe is expanding, and will just continue to expand...
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: cleaner]
#1560272 - 05/19/03 02:13 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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"The high was very cerebral, i had some tracers but i had no OBE no matter how long i tried."
dude stop trying - that's your problem right there - the harder you "try" the more hopeless it will get - just have the OBE; yes its really that easy
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Re: Prepare to evacuate soul [Re: Strumpling]
#1560310 - 05/19/03 02:22 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I thought there were recent claims made that state the universe is expanding, and will just continue to expand...
They have it half right. The Universe expands, but not forever.
Just like every cycle in nature, it is expand, pause, contract.
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