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Shroom Tea????!? wtf
    #1557325 - 05/18/03 02:18 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Okay, i take it shroom tea is hot? (i know some americans drink cold tea...yuck)... but what i wante dto get to, is doesnt heat kill the active ingrediant in shrooms? So how would tea work?.... if it truely does work, and is potent, i want to try it, a link to the best tea bag recipe would be nice...


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Re: Shroom Tea????!? wtf [Re: SHiZNO]
    #1557351 - 05/18/03 03:06 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

It works! I was a first time tea user a couple weeks, more intense and FAST onset. The water should be left sit for a couple minutes after boiling, with no potency lost...its just not hot enough.

I waited for water to cool a minute or so after boiling, mixxed powdered shrooms, tea bag, and a bit of lemon juice in the tea pot, poured in water, let steep for 5-10 minutes and drank making sure all the powder went down too.


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Re: Shroom Tea????!? wtf [Re: PDU]
    #1557437 - 05/18/03 07:07 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

You lose half the high when takien in the form of tea, soup or smoothies. Psilocybine is water soluable and psilocine is not.

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Re: Shroom Tea????!? wtf [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1557505 - 05/18/03 09:19 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

You lose half the high? Like the length of the trip of the intensity? Because every time I've drank a smoothie, the high has been very intense but short. With the same dosage eaten straight, longer lasting but definitely not as intense.

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Re: Shroom Tea????!? wtf [Re: SHiZNO]
    #1557737 - 05/18/03 12:12 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

when I have tea, I always chop the shrooms into little pieces, drop them into the water (be sure to remove the tea bag first), let it sit for about 10 minutes, drink the tea and then eat the mushy stuff at the bottom. It has no flavor and goes down easy.

If what MJ says is true, that some of the active ingredients are not water soluble, then eating the shroom pieces at the bottome should take care of that problem.

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Re: Shroom Tea????!? wtf [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1558154 - 05/18/03 04:37 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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You lose half the high when takien in the form of tea, soup or smoothies. Psilocybine is water soluable and psilocine is not.




Assuming that the fruit is strained or filtered from the brew.


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    #1559083 - 05/18/03 11:30 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

But isnt the psilocin extracted into the water through the addition of acidity, ie. lemon juice?


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Re: Shroom Tea????!? wtf [Re: PDU]
    #1559409 - 05/19/03 03:53 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

No, as I mentioned Psilocine is not water soluable.



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    #1559460 - 05/19/03 05:46 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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The isolation of psilocybin seemed to be quite reasonable. This alkaloid is reasonably soluble in boiling water from which it can be nicely crystallized. It is less soluble in boiling methanol, and almost insoluble in boiling ethanol.

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Time is a factor. Psilocin is extracted at a much slower rate than is psilocybin because it is contained intracellularly in the plant, and thus slower to be gotten out.

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Using this information they determined that the levels of psilocybin and psilocin are substantially the same in Psilocybe bohemica, in conflict with the published literature values where very small amounts of psilocin were observed.

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Efficient extraction apparently requires patience.

-- Dr. Alexander Shulgin






The full article can be found at: http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/adsarchive/extraction.htm


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