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Nyarlethotep
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Yea, I've seen that tech. It won't and can't make Lysergic Acid Hydrochloride, though, and even if it did, it'd metabolize back into LSA in the body.
It will produce highly potent/pure LSA, though, which can be taken with a tincture(which I don't have one myself).
It's cool, if you have the cash to fork over to buy Naphtha. It's better to just use standard naphtha instead of lighter fluid, and freeze precipitate it if you're going to use ether at all.
I am low on cash, so if I can't afford the materials, I'm just going to stick with cold water, and mix some lemon juice/vinegar and vanilla extract to increase acidicy, then filter it out.
Either way, should be fun.
If you're going to use lighter fluid, though, you MUST make sure all of it evaporates, as it is HIGHLY toxic. In fact, if it can be at all helped, I'd just avoid using lighter fluid completely.(note: not advice I'd necessarily take myself, but most likely I wouldn't try LF either if it could be helped)
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OOOOHHH, here's something cool. Heavenly blues change from purplish red, to blue when the water's PH is at 7.7, great indicator to know what the PH of your mixture is. Just throwing that out there in case you want to basify your water before doing an extraction.
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Nyarlethotep
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Ok, I'd DEFINITELY recommend using vanilla or mint extract now. The Vanilla extract I have doesn't say how much acetic acid it contains, but I looked it up and apparently it contains 5.00%, about the same as vinegar. WOOT! Should get some very potent LSA from this. So now I'm gonna soak it in lime or orange juice, and vanilla extract, and then filter.
And WOA, I also just read that if you add olive oil/vegetable oil to it, all the bad shit/oils from the seeds, that float on top, will bind to the oil, and you can filter it off, leaving only the alkaloid containing liquid. Awesome!
I'll post the results when I'm done.
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Edited by Nyarlethotep (12/22/11 10:33 PM)
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JusTsHroomiNn
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Yeah the LSH thing is all BS I have information overload from all the reading but yeah Im basically doing it purely to get super concentrated LSA...
Its actually pretty cheap... I think 10 bucks was enough naphtha for 2 batches of 3k mg's.
Im thinkin of splitting one batch into a tincture and (if you read the tek) Taking that residue (after putting the filtered alcohol in a glass pie pan to evaporate) and try to just dose with a small amount of whats left over, then taking the other half of the batch and going through with the whole tek...
MY other full batch tho is going through the entire process to the "T" minus adding in a variation of times... (Im basically just letting them soak longer in the naphtha and longer in the alcohol) I also added a little more alcohol give it a little more liquid to soludify into, in turn hopefully making extra pulls not needed.
I was very worried about making sure it evaporated haha. I left the first batch evaporate until I smelt nothing but that only took about 12-16 hours. The big batch im leaving to evaporate for at least a full 24 hours just for the hell of it. 7 TBH, its not to expensive. I had everything on hand except the Naphtha and ever clear which was a total of I think 30$? Mind you its a pretty dumb thing to spend 30 bucks on but im a hobbyist.
Ive spent much more on fungi and ganja
Btw, love the thread hijacking we've just done 
SORRRY!
Peace & Love
EDIT: Didnt want to double post but just read your last one... Im using organic pure Peppermint oil... once the evap is done with alcohol. Im excited to see how it turns out... I srsly have so many MG seeds idk what to do with them... This is purely for entertainment purposes tho lol... I guess we will see how things turn out.
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Nyarlethotep
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I just read that if you do indeed decide to just do a CWE, you can add vegetable oil, and all of the crappy gunk from the seeds that floats to the top, will bind with the heavier olive/vegetable oil, and can then be filter out. This is great because it means that all I'll have is the alkaloid and added ingredients, and none of the shit that makes you puke your guts out. 
That is to say, if I don't get the other materials, but no I don't have 30 dollars to spend on this. If I had a steady job/paycheck I wouldn't even trip, but I don't.
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JusTsHroomiNn
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If you had a steady job/paycheck you wouldnt trip?
Im confused. AS in you wouldnt want to for risk of losing that? Or you trip to deal with not having a job/paycheck? Sorry super high response.
But yeah I will probably try out a CWE with another 3k batch of seeds. ( the less you have to drink the better, right?)
I really hope this tek im working on now works out tho... In the end I wont care tho... Im only in psychs for the spiritual connection and reconnecting with an unexplored world unseen and created from whatever your mind makes possible.
And shrooms accomplish that just fine.
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Nyarlethotep said: Well, soaking in water is more like making tea man, and that's not exactly taking anything away, imo.
BUT taking HBWR has been mostly described the way you described it. From reports I read on LSA, morning glories are probably the best way to go. HBWR has mostly been described as too intense body-wise, with less visuals, whereas MG is the other way around.
So, I'm going with 500-600 MG seeds myself, and doing a cold-water/lime juice soak, before straining, and drinking it as fast as I can, lol.(tastes like shit I hear)
I hope my local flower shop has some, if not, I'll try a super market like safeway.(i'll try and get untreated seeds if I can, otherwise, I'll probably soak em for a bit in warm water before grinding and making a tea.)
I dunno, I've heard the opposite. Either way, I've been interested in this as well, and sadly have to resort to MG seeds as well. Which at the moment, isn't available in my area. :[
Oh well, guess I'll spend that time trying to find real drugs lol.
(P.S: If you guys are going through with this, I recommend adding peppermint. It theoretically converts LSA into LSH, a trip friendlier version.)
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I dunno, I've heard the opposite. Either way, I've been interested in this as well, and sadly have to resort to MG seeds as well. Which at the moment, isn't available in my area. :[
Oh well, guess I'll spend that time trying to find real drugs lol.
(P.S: If you guys are going through with this, I recommend adding peppermint. It theoretically converts LSA into LSH, a trip friendlier version.)
Btw... go check out amazon.. I got 12,000 seeds for 18$
This... Im adding peppermint oil at the end just for the hell of it... me and the girl are dosing with this tonight and I will let you guys know how it goes... Ive been extracting for 3 days now. And my other 3k batch wont be done until sunday or monday probably...
I wouldnt say mg is something to "resort to" cuz you have nothing else.... You do trip... and it does get intense, there are just soooo many misinformed people and 90% of the people who try it dont put any effort in learning about it and ingesting them properly and 75% of what I read of ppl calling bullshit is because they kno nothing about it and just tryin to get high and have no idea how much is too much or too little.
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Edited by JusTsHroomiNn (12/23/11 10:06 AM)
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Nyarlethotep
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JusTsHroomiNn said: If you had a steady job/paycheck you wouldnt trip?
Yea, as in "don't trip potato chip." not trip as in psychedelic trip. I wouldn't trip over buying the shit to trip out, lol. I guess it is confusing, lol. Terminology is weird like that.
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Im confused. AS in you wouldnt want to for risk of losing that? Or you trip to deal with not having a job/paycheck? Sorry super high response.
Wouldn't trip, as in, wouldn't worry about tripping, because I'd have a steady job/paycheck.
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But yeah I will probably try out a CWE with another 3k batch of seeds. ( the less you have to drink the better, right?)
True, true.
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I really hope this tek im working on now works out tho... In the end I wont care tho... Im only in psychs for the spiritual connection and reconnecting with an unexplored world unseen and created from whatever your mind makes possible.
Yea, tho it'd be nice to not waste money and end up not tripping balls, lol. You should be fine, though.
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And shrooms accomplish that just fine.
Never had Mushrooms. In fact, from my unfortunate experience, they were harder for me to get a hold of than acid.(which I've only come across once) Then again, I'm not exactly the life of the town, so to speak.
Up here, there are many cow-fields, so I'm sure if I asked around I could get some. Only issue is: 1. cash, 2. not knowing anyone.
EDIT: btw, what's a good way to crush the seeds up into powder if you don't have a blender or grinder? I've thought about just putting them in a sandwich bag, and crush them with a hammer, or a huge fucking rock, lol.
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Edited by Nyarlethotep (12/23/11 11:55 AM)
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Yeah some people just crush them, and that should work just fine for the CWE, maybe just leave them soak a little longer?
I kno what you mean man! I am by no means the life of the town either. I spend almost all my days chilling at my house with my gf and my family (no kids but 2 dogs, a puppy, and kitten..) my home is quite interesting. I am my own hook up... I dont rely on anyone for stuff like that and plus its more secure.
Me and the girl are buying an RV in the Spring and take the dogs and ourselves on a 30 day road trip around the country over the summer... Possibly may be able to enlighten you with the your unobtainable mushrooms :P
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Re: Is HBWR worth trying? [Re: PuffmastaL]
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OP, I've had luck with HBWR before with no nausea. All I did was grind up the seeds into a powder and soak them in some pure lime juice for a half hour. I consumed everything (9 seeds in total) and had a really intense trip with good visuals. It felt like a mix between mdma and lsd. I felt more euphoria at one point than I have ever felt on mdma, but the visuals weren't as good as lsd (they were somewhat similar to a low dose like breathing walls, morphing patterns, etc....)
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JusTsHroomiNn said:
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I dunno, I've heard the opposite. Either way, I've been interested in this as well, and sadly have to resort to MG seeds as well. Which at the moment, isn't available in my area. :[
Oh well, guess I'll spend that time trying to find real drugs lol.
(P.S: If you guys are going through with this, I recommend adding peppermint. It theoretically converts LSA into LSH, a trip friendlier version.)
Btw... go check out amazon.. I got 12,000 seeds for 18$
This... Im adding peppermint oil at the end just for the hell of it... me and the girl are dosing with this tonight and I will let you guys know how it goes... Ive been extracting for 3 days now. And my other 3k batch wont be done until sunday or monday probably...
I wouldnt say mg is something to "resort to" cuz you have nothing else.... You do trip... and it does get intense, there are just soooo many misinformed people and 90% of the people who try it dont put any effort in learning about it and ingesting them properly and 75% of what I read of ppl calling bullshit is because they kno nothing about it and just tryin to get high and have no idea how much is too much or too little.
I've looked into a lot of trip reports where people do it properly and still have crappy experiences.
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