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OfflineMurex
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Why am I here?
    #1557056 - 05/17/03 10:18 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)


I came to this dimension for a reason I'm sure. But what is that reason? Why without knowledge of my past?

To experience mortal life and grow spiritually?
To try and help this reality and it's population of other souls?
To serve some other purpose?

Is this a temporary prison? Did I do something I wasn't allowed to do in a previous reality? Is this a test?

Why without the knowledge of my past? Did I not have an ego before this? Was I part of another soul?

............?

Why are you here?





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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Murex]
    #1557084 - 05/17/03 10:28 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I came to this dimension for a reason I'm sure. But what is that reason?

How can you be sure? Why must there be a reason?

Is there a reason for the fly buzzing around my bedroom? Or the tree growing outside my window? Or for the fungus living on my foot?

Why without knowledge of my past?

If you have no knowledge of your past, how do you know you have a past?

To experience mortal life and grow spiritually?
To try and help this reality and it's population of other souls?
To serve some other purpose?


So basically you're saying "To live?"
I think you're on to something there...

Peace,

RebelSteve


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Murex]
    #1557098 - 05/17/03 10:33 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Here's how I think of it:

Life recycles itself periodically. Life is light. I also believe there are other universes, and infinite amount, past present, future.

So why is it here? I am not sure. We at least have the choice; we've been given the best gift of all... life.

I can tell you that we are all one. Existence is that one force asking What is going on? We are the answer man.

Because time is not linear, we experience creation and de creation simultaneously.



Anybody else?


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Murex]
    #1557109 - 05/17/03 10:42 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

To experience mortal life and grow spiritually?

no, but it will make you feel good believing it.

To try and help this reality and it's population of other souls?

that would be a nice thing to help fellow humans... but don't fill their head with more bullshit.

To serve some other purpose?

there is NO purpose. you exist.

Why are you here?

why does there have to be a why? it is strange that all the "why's" lead to nothing, but its the truth.

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OfflineMurex
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Re: Why am I here? [Re: ]
    #1557131 - 05/17/03 11:05 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

The questions wern't really supposed to be answered, except the last one...kinda. What I'm trying to say is that I don't know, and nobody here knows either what was before being here on earth.

I don't try to fill people's heads with bullshit, I just try to make them think.

why does there have to be a why? it is strange that all the "why's" lead to nothing, but its the truth.

It IS the truth. You hit it right on with that one!  :wink:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


Edited by Murex (05/17/03 11:09 PM)

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OfflineDeiymiyan
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Re: Why am I here? [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #1557252 - 05/18/03 01:05 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

"Is there a reason for the fly buzzing around my bedroom? Or the tree growing outside my window? Or for the fungus living on my foot?"
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Here are the answers to three of your questions:




1) Yes


2) Yes


3) Ye.......... Dude ! You need to wash your feet more.... That's grosssss... EEEwwwwww....!!!!!



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Dei Gratia de integro,

Veni Vidi Vici:

In Nomine Domini..


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #1557315 - 05/18/03 02:01 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I believe that I don't know. Neither does anyone else. And we might not even find out when we die.

What is truth?


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1557412 - 05/18/03 06:11 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

why am I here? What am I? Where do I begin? Whats it all about? What is the bigger picture?

These questions have been eating away at the minds of many for a long long time. I spose all of us here on the right track to finding it out, but dosn't this all make us ask more questions than it answers?


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Sole_Worthy]
    #1557530 - 05/18/03 09:38 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I think we have knowledge of our past we just cant remember. Without it we are lost and confused all looking for something but when we relearn what we have forgot it'll be even better than if we remebered the whole time.

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OfflineDeiymiyan
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Re: Why am I here? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1557779 - 05/18/03 12:53 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

"What is truth? "
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I believe that I was not discussing truth,  rather, reason.


How about this....

If truth were a hidden lie? What is a lie then?

:confused:

[ edit*  Would there be any differentiation between a lie and a supposed "white" lie? ] 


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Dei Gratia de integro,

Veni Vidi Vici:

In Nomine Domini..


Edited by Deiymiyan (05/18/03 12:55 PM)

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OfflineMurex
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Re: Why am I here? [Re: DailyPot]
    #1557929 - 05/18/03 02:40 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I think that maybe our past (before here) is for the most part lost, like when you wake up from a dream and think nothing of it and it fades away.

Or maybe our brains can only store what we experience while we are physical. That sure makes sense to me.

Maybe this reality is very forign to us and we have to adapt quickly (while a child) instead of remembering our past that our brains can't totally comprehend.

Sometimes while trippin, I sense my past, but it's still blurry......maybe because my soul is 'loose' and not totally connected to my body, allowing me to remember things from berore.


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


Edited by Murex (05/18/03 02:43 PM)

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OfflineDailyPot
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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Murex]
    #1557992 - 05/18/03 03:05 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

We live in a physical world. Our soul 'remebers' somethings while our brian remebers others. We've adapted, we can spend time trying to remeber our past. There are different types of remebering, I dunno about you guys but certain things feel different trying to remeber them, like you're tapping into a different source of memory. Kinda like how you remeber dreams, you dont search your normal memory.

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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Murex]
    #1558092 - 05/18/03 03:53 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

"Why without the knowledge of my past? Did I not have an ego before this? Was I part of another soul?"

heh well I think if we knew/remembered for sure what was going on before/after this human experience we wouldn't really be "human" because we'd just be and it would be really hard to focus on survival if we had non-human "data/experience" retained in us somewhere.


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1558096 - 05/18/03 03:55 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)


Good point Strumpling.


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Murex]
    #1558808 - 05/18/03 09:06 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

its like death is liberation from the confines of being a particular life-form with particular needs

edit (addition): sorry.. that was kinda off-topic - lol..


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Insert an "I think" mentally in front of eveything I say that seems sketchy, because I certainly don't KNOW much. Also; feel free to yell at me.
In addition: SHPONGLE

Edited by Strumpling (05/18/03 09:07 PM)

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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1558935 - 05/18/03 10:10 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

no, wrong, death is the end. its like eternal suffocation.


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1559701 - 05/19/03 10:05 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

no, wrong.

lol isn't that fun - we're exchanging ideas here dude...... most of us are wrong about everything so there's no need to point that out.. "i think.."


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Insert an "I think" mentally in front of eveything I say that seems sketchy, because I certainly don't KNOW much. Also; feel free to yell at me.
In addition: SHPONGLE

Edited by Strumpling (05/19/03 10:06 AM)

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OfflineAdamist
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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Murex]
    #1559929 - 05/19/03 12:05 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Why are you here?



I am here.


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Murex]
    #1560039 - 05/19/03 12:44 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Why? To Learn.

More specifically, to learn, experience, and evolve, mentally, spiritually, physically, emotionally.

Is this a test? Without a doubt, there are many tests in everyday existance. It's all part of the lesson.

There could be hundreds of reasons why someone is here. But everyone has the same basic reasons. But we all have individual needs and lessons to learn.

I am here to learn, to teach, and to assist the transition into 5th density in any and every way possible. That is my life mission.



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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Shroomism]
    #1560046 - 05/19/03 12:50 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

i wasnt 100 percent serious. But why do you guys feel the need to have a purpose to your life? do you really believe that you are here for a reason? or are you just telling yourself that in order to justify your day-to-day life?


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1560049 - 05/19/03 12:51 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

that's a choice we make

you could choose to live a meaningless life but why?

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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Shroomism]
    #1560050 - 05/19/03 12:52 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

* For information pertaining to your individual current life mission and goals; check with the Akashic records, located on the soul. A lucid guide can be helpful if you have problems 'seeing' your life records.
It basically involves examining your belief systems, eliminating them, changing ones to suit you better, getting rid of limiting thought patterns, ways of viewing the world, etc..replacing the old ones with newer, more flexible ones. Examining and facing your fears, transcending them, deleting consciousness-hindering 'data blocks' within your mind. Then the flow between unconscious soul level and conscious mind becomes very thin, and the memory flows readily between the two. Make sure you deal with your deep fears first, as it can get ugly if it starts flowing and you haven't dealt with them yet.


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1560053 - 05/19/03 12:53 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Every life has a purpose, or else you would not be born. That is fact. There are often many, many purposes, intertwining with other being's purposes.


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Adamist]
    #1560074 - 05/19/03 01:02 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)


I am here.

How do I know that you aren't just my computer making me believe you are a real person? But then you would be my computer, so you are correct anyway.

......Nevermind.  :tongue:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1560085 - 05/19/03 01:06 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)


But why do you guys feel the need to have a purpose to your life? do you really believe that you are here for a reason? or are you just telling yourself that in order to justify your day-to-day life?

If there wasn't a purpose to life, we wouldn't be here.  :wink:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Murex]
    #1560333 - 05/19/03 02:28 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

"do you really believe that you are here for a reason?"

lol do you really believe this whole thing is just a freak accident? just a spark of life which eventually gave way to the sparks of nukes going off? Just a freak accident, our whole existence? You don't think existence has gone through this before? You don't think something's already figured this out? You don't think you can make your own meaning? What do you want to do with your life?


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In addition: SHPONGLE

Edited by Strumpling (05/19/03 11:50 PM)

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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1560418 - 05/19/03 02:52 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

shroomism: Every life has a purpose, or else you would not be born. That is fact.

a fact mmmmkay, give me proof without using mysticism.

strumpling: lol do you really believe this whole thing is just a freak accident? just a spark of life which eventually gave way to the sparks of nukes going off? Just a freak accident, our whole existence?

no, thats not exactly what I mean......all im saying is, the human mind has an impulse to structure its reality in order to rationalize its actions, correct? so....it seems like assigning a "purpose" to your life is just a tool so that you can survive and maybe propogate.

im not saying that the universe is an accident.....because that makes no sense. im not trying to "figure out" the universe either, all im saying is that.....when a person gives themselves a "cosmic purpose", it seems a little bit self-fullfilling to me.

its just entertainment really. everyone wants to feel special, its harder to live when you realize that your existence has no real importance.

and if there is a purpose to our lives, then it means that what everyone is doing is completely acceptable. the palestinian suicide bomber is fulfilling his purpose just as much as you are fulfilling yours?

if you want to believe in "purpose" then everyones "purpose" must be equally correct.........because its all make-believe.


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1560430 - 05/19/03 02:59 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)


so....it seems like assigning a "purpose" to your life is just a tool so that you can survive and maybe propogate.

This proves there is a purpose to life. Biologicaly, we have a purpose. That is one fact.

its just entertainment really. everyone wants to feel special, its harder to live when you realize that your existence has no real importance.

I'm just questioning IF there is a purpose or not. I don't know if you or anyone else took it the wrong way.



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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1560465 - 05/19/03 03:10 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

lol do you really believe this whole thing is just a freak accident? just a spark of life which eventually gave way to the sparks of nukes going off? Just a freak accident, our whole existence?

yes, why do YOU think your special? name one thing that we as humans have done that remotely involves anything special or meaningful? we survive, thats it, and on top of that, we do whatever we think it takes... including killing eachother with no peace in sight.

the existence in matter and the universe may be a deliberate act, but how egotistical thinking you are special...

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Re: Why am I here? [Re: ]
    #1560658 - 05/19/03 04:07 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)


yes, why do YOU think your special? name one thing that we as humans have done that remotely involves anything special or meaningful?

That's all in the eye of the beholder.


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Murex]
    #1560699 - 05/19/03 04:24 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

That's all in the eye of the beholder.

and thats exactly my point... anything that comes from such... is crap :smile:

including my statement here! 

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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Murex]
    #1560856 - 05/19/03 05:16 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

" If ya wanna find out whats behind this closed eye, you have blow your way through this disguse!" - pink floyd



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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Murex]
    #1560947 - 05/19/03 05:51 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Why are you here?




Because I was born.


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Seuss]
    #1560960 - 05/19/03 05:55 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)


Good answer.


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Murex]
    #1561529 - 05/19/03 08:44 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

How do I know I'm "here" at all ? I could be "there" for all I know...plugged into the matrix having the life sucked out of me (heck I can feel it being sucked out as I type)...
To those who say that life has a purpose... one could argue that the purpose of life is to die (since it's a fact that life eventually leads to death) - hence one could say that suicide is the ultimate fulfilment of life...
or one could argue that the purpose of anything can't be concluded by what it eventually leads to...
I guess one needs to define "purpose" in some meaningful way (other than "end result")...
just some random thoughts to chew on


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: ]
    #1561738 - 05/19/03 09:55 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

when did I say I was special? when did I say mankind was special. When did I say life was special? did your brain process my post before you replied to it?

and atomikfunksoldier,

we invented pourpose..... we can use it however we please.. the suicide bomber IS living out his self-given pourpose just as I am mine - possibly even better because the suicide bomber fulfills his pourpose without error every time.. I didn't say that any pourpose somebody comes up with for themselves is acceptable. I was claiming that it is acceptable to make your own pourpose. In fact, I wish more people would make their own pourpose instead of letting politicians and corporations create one for them.. I don't know anybody who hasn't given themselves pourpose in life or at least in parts of their life


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1561794 - 05/19/03 10:18 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

when did I say I was special? when did I say mankind was special. When did I say life was special? did your brain process my post before you replied to it?

take what i said for what its worth, whether it applied to you or not.

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Re: Why am I here? [Re: ]
    #1561992 - 05/19/03 11:31 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

first of all, I'm glad you included "did your brain process.." in your quote because when I re-read it I realized how lame that was - I apologize for that attitude; I'm sure you "processed" my post..

now.. this will probably turn into a rant: life's ability to change and "refine" itself and even its surroundings using forces outside of gravity/magnetism is the closest thing to "special" imo - and I think that is the result of some larger process - being a part of a larger process, in my opinion, automatically gives something a type of purpose, whether or not that something even fits very well or even if that something somehow ends up doing the opposite of whatever the purpose may be..

As I was typing this however, I also realized a counterpoint in that there are also results from processes; things which aren't necessarily "part" of the process, but which simply happen due to it... (edit: added paragraph-break here; below text was already typed)

lol I don't know if that connects with you but I typed all this shit with a purpose hehe.. feel free to ask questions or ignore or object or yell and scream


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1562004 - 05/19/03 11:36 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)


Good posts Strump!  :wink:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Murex]
    #1562042 - 05/20/03 12:03 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

heh thanks, but I just realized that I screwed up the word purpose a whole bunch of times a few posts up by spelling it pourpose :blush:

I also wish to address this from atomikfunksoldier:

"when a person gives themselves a 'cosmic purpose,' it seems a little bit self-fullfilling to me."

I don't think it matters what purpose we give ourselves, because any "real purpose" is outside of ourselves, or is at least the cause of our experience. Keeping that in mind, I can say that Life and even mankind itself has a purpose, but on an individual scale, each life-form can try and focus in on what they "think" that purpose is based off of its initial programming and based off of various "recordings" and connections made if the life-form is lucky enough to have senses) and in doing so give themselves purpose while at the same time possibly serving a larger, "objective purpose" if that even means anything :wink:

edit (addition): ahh I just realized heh that if a life-form spends time searching for and acting out its own percieved purpose, it could automatically be screwing up the "objective purpose," certainly depending on what that was


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1562149 - 05/20/03 12:59 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

yes, its obvious that humans define their own purpose, but what i find problematic, is when humans believe that this "purpose" is somehow influential on their reality.

re: jesus complex.

but.....i guess thats where things become difficult, how one balances their egotistical purpose with the enormity of the universe.


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1562166 - 05/20/03 01:15 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)


re: jesus complex.

Good point.  :tongue:


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1562176 - 05/20/03 01:20 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I think the idea behind the jesus complex or even science is to try to realize and express what somebody or some people think is our purpose so that everybody can attempt to work together to accelerate whatever processes we could find to assist the purpose...... unfortunately we got so stuck in our web of egos and power-struggles and capitalism and general distractions now that I don't know if we can fix it, and we might turn out to be a giant waste of cosmic energy :wink: but of course who cares about this shit when we can cruise around in nice cars listening to satellite radio


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1562381 - 05/20/03 05:12 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Why am I not someone else, why am I conscious of my own body, is that called a spirit?
What happens when I die, will I restart in another new body? Or maybe even in another world, place, time?
Questions...

Some people answer them with religion.. I don't believe in religion though.. I'm too scientific to believe in it, but I want to have the answers

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Re: Why am I here? [Re: ShroomyJ]
    #1563819 - 05/20/03 06:57 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Why am I not someone else, why am I conscious of my own body, is that called a spirit?
What happens when I die, will I restart in another new body? Or maybe even in another world, place, time?
Questions...

Some people answer them with religion.. I don't believe in religion though.. I'm too scientific to believe in it, but I want to have the answers




Why do you seek answers? You are here, is that not enough? If you are scientific, then you must accept that religion is a possiblity... remote as it may be. Once you die, does it matter if you start in a new body? Is that any different than if you are just a wet bag of chemicals with no greater meaning? Life becomes very simple when viewed from the perspective of death.


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Seuss]
    #1564755 - 05/21/03 12:16 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

"Why do you seek answers? You are here, is that not enough?"

heh apparently me being here isn't enough, because you're here too.


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Re: Why am I here? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1566520 - 05/21/03 03:55 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

...because you're here too.




Perhaps sometimes...


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