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Will we become gods?
    #1556729 - 05/17/03 09:35 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Had an interesting thought. The bible says (for clarification, I'm agnostic, there is simply no way to be sure) that god created us in his image. Now imagine a race of people that eventually became gods. Ours simply decided to create a playground for himself to experiment with. What if they had advanced to the point that they no longer remembered what it was like early in their development. Or maybe he is like a palentologist researching a species development. What better way to discover the way a species lived that to actually observe it while it elvolved. Do you think we will ever develop god like abilities?


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1556735 - 05/17/03 09:39 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Or maybe we already are GODS?! maybe it means that we were all once ONE or GOD. and now we have expanded to fit that image. the all encompasing, all realizing (all together of course). *fitting gods image*


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1556750 - 05/17/03 09:54 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

No


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1556866 - 05/17/03 10:50 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I think you are on to something....keep working with this idea.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1556867 - 05/17/03 10:50 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Will we become gods?

We are gods. We are just trapped in a decaying shell.  :tongue:


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: Murex]
    #1556874 - 05/17/03 10:57 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

"become" ??!!
Man I thought we were already there !!
u mean I've been carrying around this spear and magic helmet for nothin ?!


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1557289 - 05/18/03 03:38 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

"Do you think we will ever develop god like abilities?"
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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #1557304 - 05/18/03 03:49 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I mean will we ever evolve to the point that our mind will develop god like abilities. The ability to manipulate our environment at will for one. The psychic abiities some claim already exist, but even more than this. These would seem very limited compared to what God can supposedly do. I think that if you think these abilities will eventually develop, then you must already think they are latent abilities within ourselves.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1557312 - 05/18/03 03:55 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I think the planet will be long destroyed and the human race wiped out long before we have time to develop such abilities. With the corporations in control how long do you think the human race has left?

Perhaps the dinosaurs were closer to god than humanity - they lasted 140 million years. Any bets on humans lasting that long?


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1557321 - 05/18/03 04:07 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Although I think there exists a very real possibility of a mass extinction, I believe that a viable number of humans would remain alive to repopulate the species. Even in the event of a global catastrophe such as asteriod impact, or some sort of genetically engineered super virus, some of the population will be able to forsee the event and ensure some of the species remains alive in some isolated place free from danger.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1557409 - 05/18/03 08:02 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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some of the population will be able to forsee the event and ensure some of the species remains alive in some isolated place free from danger




Yes! The government  :tongue:

Ok, so if we all develop god like abilities etc then will we still need to eat and drink? whos gonna work in a factory if they have god like abilities? How are things gonna be kept together?


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1557422 - 05/18/03 08:42 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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I mean will we ever evolve to the point that our mind will develop god like abilities. The ability to manipulate our environment at will for one




We already have that ability. You just have to know how to use it.



By the way i see you just finished reading illuminatus trilogy, good work. Don't feel cocky though, you've got a long way to go. A very long way.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: cleaner]
    #1557525 - 05/18/03 11:35 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I dont think we will be gods while we are still "we."


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: cleaner]
    #1557620 - 05/18/03 12:45 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I finished reading the Illuminatus Trilogy 8 or 9 years ago so  how long do I have to go before I get where?  Am I closer to this destination then you thought before?

And what ability do we already that I haven't learned how to use?  Why is everyone keeping secrets from me? :wink:

 


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1557636 - 05/18/03 01:01 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

our concept of "god" will expand, along with our minds so... no, we will never become gods.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: DailyPot]
    #1557671 - 05/18/03 01:21 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think we are "we" any more. We were "we" a moment ago, but we have already changed since then :shocked: 


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1557746 - 05/18/03 02:17 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I am with some of the others.. we already are Gods.. we have just forgotten. It's awakening to our sovereignity and abilities as creators more than anything.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: Shroomism]
    #1557828 - 05/18/03 03:30 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I like thinking like this. Everything is overrated. Everything becomes less cool when we're it. Like driving isn't as cool when you can drive, drinking isn't as cool when you can drink, being an adult isn't as cool when you're an adult. How many times have you heard if I could I'd go back? Why is this if being a adult is the top? It sucks not having anything higher to go to. Everyone always wants more and thats hard to get if you already have everything.

I think if I were a god I'd make myself a human, or atleast part of me, so I could do it all over. I would make myself be born and not remeber what its like to be a god until I die and become one again so it'll be that much sweeter.

Makes you wonder about our origins :smile:


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: DailyPot]
    #1557833 - 05/18/03 03:34 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I sometimes these two feelings which could actully be related.

One is that God is addicted to the feeling of becoming god so he keeps making more of use so he can keep feeling it over and over again. Kinda like thae people that love falling in love. They dont like not being in love and dont like the end result of being in love but they like falling into it.

And sometimes I feel as if this whole reality is a by product of being on a drug and way out of it. Its possible that "I" am just the feeling of god getting the feeling of not being god. Like I am god or part of him but I dont know it. Which actully goes along well with the idea of millions saying we're all god or part of god or something to that effect.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1557870 - 05/18/03 04:03 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Do you think we will ever develop god like abilities?

Oh, you mean like the ability to exist? My friend, have a glance in a mirror.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: DailyPot]
    #1558091 - 05/18/03 05:52 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)


I like your way of thinking on this subject. I believe that God seperates itself so that those fragments can eventually learn to become what it was before, some may not make it that far, but that's how the cycle goes. It's evolution in a metaphisical sense.

Our bodies are not yet developed enough to allow us to have 'super powers' or psionic powers or whatever. The previous generation gives us what we have now. I think that we are always one step ahead, while one step behind in a way. We just have to keep progressing.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: Murex]
    #1558247 - 05/18/03 07:40 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

We can already do some pretty amazing things but we only call what we dont have power. Once we have it the term power goes to something new.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: ]
    #1559061 - 05/19/03 01:17 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I really don't think that giving one word answers make the space you took up posting worth being taken up.


I faill to see how evolution doesn't imply that we aren't going to become more godlike. I think that this is a matter of how you view progress: god-like or devil-like. I think that we could go either way, but I try to make sure (as best as I can) that we (and I) become more god-like. what's working out, what's going to school? what is motivation?


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1559216 - 05/19/03 03:01 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Although I think there exists a very real possibility of a mass extinction, I believe that a viable number of humans would remain alive to repopulate the species. Even in the event of a global catastrophe such as asteriod impact, or some sort of genetically engineered super virus, some of the population will be able to forsee the event and ensure some of the species remains alive in some isolated place free from danger.



I steal your view on that subject.

As for the "Will we become gods?" question, my meaningless opinion is that yes, if the human species is given the chance to evolve into our potential... then yes that is what we will become. Anyone who says anything different is viewing the future under the hue of pessimism.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1559450 - 05/19/03 07:23 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

i think that you had best read olaf stapledon's _starmaker_ just to get started... & maybe lester del ray's wonderful short story "evensong"...
as for the biblical background --- eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil was the first step from creaturehood towards godhood for humanity, heh...
and from the martian perspective, all that groks is god...
(those short words are the slippery ones, remember...)


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1560944 - 05/19/03 07:48 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Hargeceline your have been enlightened, or as they say illunimated my friend. So have i, the problem is that my message get distorted because of the matrix way of life!

YES,.. we will become gods, influence the current dimension in ways we can only dream of now. Ever notice how often the DNA symbol in trips are occuring now?

I will say, let there be light!, and then i will create light! lol




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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1564323 - 05/21/03 12:01 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

And the lord god said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

Just something thats come to my awareness. :smirk:


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1569646 - 05/22/03 04:55 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

That has always been an aspect of the Bible that puzzled me. And it is not the only instance. Several times they mention God(s) in plural.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1570056 - 05/22/03 08:09 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Our bodies are not yet developed enough to allow us to have 'super powers' or psionic powers or whatever.





I think everything we need to become gods is already there cos we dont realy use all of our brain. I think all that is needed is the right miind and slight genetic variation in the brain to switch these powers on. Who knows maybe there is some type of neuro transmitter undiscoverd that could simply turn on the right switch.
But a word of warning what do you realy think the world would turn out to be like if we all become gods overnight. I just think the deepest regions of hell would be fun compared to what could happen.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: EvilGir]
    #1571583 - 05/23/03 08:01 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

She replied, "we may eat the fruit of any tree in the garden, except for the tree in the middle of the garden. God has forbidden us to eat the fruit of that tree or even to touch it; if we do, we shall die."
"Of course you will not die," said the serpent; "for God knows that, as soon as you eat it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God himself, knowing both good and evil."
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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1571585 - 05/23/03 08:08 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

HC ---
the word from the pentateuch which implies gods is "elohim"...
the word which is translated lord is YHVH (blessed be his name) (& apologies to those who insist that the sacred tetragrammaton be neither written nor uttered aloud...)
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biblical scholars suggest that there are 3 strands of original traditions melded into into one narrative:
E for elohist
J for jahwist
P for priestly
if you look at the genesis text, there are obviously 2 distinct creation stories...
harold bloom's marvelous _the book of j_ goes into this a bit, and there are several other biblical scholars (including isaac asimov!) who can elucidate this complex corner of scriptural origins, perhaps... even a quick googlesearch can yield quite a bit of info, & references to further sources i am sure...
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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: EvilGir]
    #1572649 - 05/23/03 06:17 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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I think everything we need to become gods is already there cos we dont realy use all of our brain.




Actually that is completely untrue. You, I, and the rest of the world all use 100% of our brain. I just don't see the reason that people think we have these dormant abiitlies. Where is the evidence. Or even reasonable speculation. Many of you have written throughout this thread that we were gods, or we can already do it, but no one has said why or how.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1573128 - 05/23/03 09:21 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Anything can be taken on any level of understanding....envision just how many processes go into your response. It is not a question of true/untrue or right/wrong it is about learning and understanding for yourself. Besides...why are you >>>here<<<?
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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: gnrm23]
    #1573571 - 05/24/03 12:52 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)


You Kabbalistic?


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1573575 - 05/24/03 12:53 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Its all about energy

All in one

What can be all and one at the same time? Energy,... energy at its most basic form, when one dives in to the subject of being gods, they must concider, ESP/Psionic applications.

Can god be energy, its presents in all things, being energy?
Can god be energy, as is the same with us (us being gods) because we write the laws/program for the energy?


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1573674 - 05/24/03 01:23 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Our mind is our tool to becomming what you say.

Using our minds, we have let man fly, reach the moon, go to the bottom of the ocean, distroy entire citys in one blast, make towers that scrape the sky. We have created our own subjects, we can show the past and can sometimes predict the future. We have connected millions of people's minds.

We are pretty far on our way.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: ]
    #1574721 - 05/24/03 04:57 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

i personally believe our current society will destroy itself and the survivors will develop a higher mentallity in which to govern ourselves.. if that counts as developing god like powers..


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: Murex]
    #1580788 - 05/27/03 07:43 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

kabbala...
well sir, no, i cannot read hebrew... (aleph, bet, gimmel...)
i do have a hebrew/english dictionary, but having & using are not the same thing...
i do have a passing interest in various ummmmm bits of arcana, but... i am hardly a practicioner of any of them...
have read from the zohar, a couple books on kabbalah, _7 1/2 mystics_, etc, as well as stuff on bible history (jewish & chrisitian) & gnostics & essenes &&& ...
maybe someday in this lifetime, if i can ever obtain sufficient slack (praise bob!) i will immerse myself in esoterica sufficiently to slake my thirst(s) --- & if not this time around, perhaps in my next incarnation (for as my friend in the colorado rockies has said to me more than once, she learned enough about the marriage & parenting gig in this lifetime to allow her to avoid it in her next lifetime :wink: ...)
inshallah...


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: skiddlincat]
    #1585113 - 05/28/03 03:17 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

It will be a sad day when we think we have become gods
because that will be the day we have lost our imagination
that will be the day we stop growing


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1586100 - 05/28/03 08:24 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

What do you grow to after you become god?


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1587045 - 05/29/03 01:46 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

that's my point. god isn't something that we "become" it's something we are always "becoming"


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1588356 - 05/29/03 11:47 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

All is one.

We are all infinite, individualized pieces of God.

We are God.



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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: TeknoJunkie]
    #1588688 - 05/29/03 02:31 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

All is one.

We are all infinite, individualized pieces of God.

We are God.



My thoughts exactly.  :smile:


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1588711 - 05/29/03 02:39 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

You can grow to be anything. Take on any phyiscal form?


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: johnnyfive]
    #2067208 - 11/03/03 05:22 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2067213 - 11/03/03 05:28 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe we are the tiniest infinitely insignificant speck in an enormous and infinitely complex fractal. We can't make out the rest from our vantage point.

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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: RedNucleus]
    #2067246 - 11/03/03 06:02 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

How bout this. God is simultaneously pure Conciousness as well as being thought/physical.

Conciousness is God's "true" nature, and all the multitudes of thoughts/physical things are images of Conciousness, images that are required so that Conciousness can be concious of something.

If there is nothing to be concious of, then Conciousness is unconcious.

Therefore, God split into 2 dualities: Pure awareness/stuff to be aware of. There is experience and observation. We as human beings are usually in a state of experience, we're the reflection of God... the image of God. It's when we realize that our true nature is eternal awareness, conciousness, that we "become God".


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: RedNucleus]
    #2067251 - 11/03/03 06:12 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Well, take a real good look at the story of "Creation" in Genesis, If you read carefully and in between the lines you'll will see that it's actually nothing humans can't do in the near future with the right advancements in technology. This story of creation in Genesis at no time describes "god(s)" materializing the Earth, it really just described a process were "god(s)" make the the Earth an inhabitable place for life to survive. Actually no diffrent than what NASA has prepared for Mars in worst case senario.

This is where the basis of Christianity gets tricky because if you study these early texts with logic instead of preconcived ideas about a spiritual "god(s)". Then you'll realize that the "god(s)" really doesent show any super-natural traits. Just advanced technology in planet restoration and DNA enginiering. As of matterfact he(they) displays many human-like characteristics. Like imposing laws with lies and fear tactics... " For the day you eat from it (Forbidden tree) thao shalt surely die". The serpent tells Eve that she will not die but will become like gods and her eyes would be open. Then when "god(s)" found out that humans had eaten from the tree he(they) said "Man has become one of us". What we have to understand is the perspective that a primitive human such as Moses would have while witnessing the creation. He would have not know if this "god(s)" were actually just evolved form of himself because evolution and technology was the last thing in his mind at the time of his visions. The only thing in his mind was spirituality and thats what you have to understand in order to read these text with any kind of logic.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #2067272 - 11/03/03 06:54 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Wow. cool. But I'll have to regard that as just a thought too. :laugh: have fun thinking :thumbup:


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: Spokesman]
    #2067275 - 11/03/03 06:58 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

ehhhhh, ok. But you're slapping specifics on a vague piece of poetic literature/lore that has been translated countless times through different languages. And genesis talks about how God created the sky and then the sun and land, and all this. The bible's an over translated over edited textual comic book, in my humble opinion. It's cool to think though, you go on thinking.

Disregarding the bible then, it is interesting to think about the possibility that humans and maybe other life were engineered by other life in the universe. That's something I never considered. (I've been catholic basically my whole life, on and off, until recently when I let go of it, and didn't ever really allow myself to wonder about the nature of things if not created by the christian god)


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: RedNucleus]
    #2067332 - 11/03/03 08:10 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

"We are all infinite, individualized pieces of God. "

Infinite yes, individualized pieces of God no although we are all share the same internet server.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: EvilGir]
    #2067393 - 11/03/03 08:59 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

dude.

there isn't any conversation if you just declare your thoughts as the truth.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: RedNucleus]
    #2067860 - 11/03/03 01:37 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I see it like..we are all consciousnesses of god.. going off to experience subjective reality.. in order to gain experience ~ wisdom.. to drive the continual force of evolution.. we are all gods. but we don't remember it/awakened to it completely yet.
"God" the entity, lies on the other side, in perfect awareness, who is really the collective of us.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2067885 - 11/03/03 01:47 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

The Atlantians, Lemurians, and the other 2 civilizations became corrupt and greedy enough to think of themselves as gods...and they got what they deserved. Unfortunately, it looks like were next.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #2067892 - 11/03/03 01:49 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

The Atlantians, not the Lemurians..

It was a direct result of powerful technology too.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #2068035 - 11/03/03 03:15 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

The majority of the people of our modern electronically linked civilizations do not believe themselves to be pieces of a god. I doubt you have much to worry about from that sort of problem.


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: Shroomism]
    #2068130 - 11/03/03 03:58 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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The Atlantians, not the Lemurians..

It was a direct result of powerful technology too.   




Well we might disagree on the specifics (flip-out doses of DPT have been known to do that :smile:), but im sure we can both agree that Bush's America is speeding in that direction...In the mean time have 5 shrooms.

 


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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #2068426 - 11/03/03 07:24 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

How do you distinguish between you being a god or not, or better, we being (a) god(s) or not? Is it a feeling experienced by your consciousness or will you distill this divine truth from the cause and effect thread that you spin? In other words, will you attain (let's think that we are not Gods yet) Godhood through spirituality, or will you turn to the temple of Science and Technology?

If you think about the latter, evidence tells us that immortality (considering this is a divine feat: a godlike ability if you like) is biologically feasable. Tumour cells for example take on the impression that they are immortal. Because of a mutation in a gene, the cell will produce cancer inducing enzymes. There are safeguards in a cell and normally they will do their job and induce a reaction chain resulting in the death of this cell (a process that is called apoptosis). One safeguard is the lifetime of a cell. This lifetime is dependent on how many telomeres a cell has. With each division, an healthy cell "uses" a telomere and in the end will run out of them and the energy of the cell will be recycled (apoptosis). Tumour cells bypassed this barrier. They will make the additional telomeres that are needed, ergo they will keep on deviding thus they will not cease to exist.
Hope yer still with me, for this is merely an example. An interesting question is: What if we could use this knowledge and counter ageing? Stretching this: Will man be able to counter ageing and adopt immortality?
Research on celbiology tells us that we can. Feats in the field of Medicine seem to agree with this. I believe that science is showing us ways to attain godlike abilities and researchers are ever eager to find the key to immortality. Is share their motivation. Obtaining godlike abilities is certainly possible and the religion of Science is the way to obtain these divine abilities...


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