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 HagbardCeline
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 Re: Will we become gods?  [Re: infidelGOD]
#1586100 - 05/28/03 06:24 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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What do you grow to after you become god?
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I keep it real because I think it is important that a highly esteemed individual such as myself keep it real lest they experience the dreaded spontaneous non-existance of no longer keeping it real. - Hagbard Celine
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 infidelGOD
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that's my point. god isn't something that we "become" it's something we are always "becoming"
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TeknoJunkie
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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: infidelGOD]
#1588356 - 05/29/03 09:47 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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All is one.
We are all infinite, individualized pieces of God.
We are God.
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silversoul7
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 Re: Will we become gods? [Re: TeknoJunkie]
#1588688 - 05/29/03 12:31 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
All is one.
We are all infinite, individualized pieces of God.
We are God.
My thoughts exactly. 
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"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire
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johnnyfive
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You can grow to be anything. Take on any phyiscal form?
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CreatorMatrix14
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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: johnnyfive]
#2067208 - 11/03/03 03:22 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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RedNucleus
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Maybe we are the tiniest infinitely insignificant speck in an enormous and infinitely complex fractal. We can't make out the rest from our vantage point.
Just a thought
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NiamhNyx
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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: RedNucleus]
#2067246 - 11/03/03 04:02 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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How bout this. God is simultaneously pure Conciousness as well as being thought/physical.
Conciousness is God's "true" nature, and all the multitudes of thoughts/physical things are images of Conciousness, images that are required so that Conciousness can be concious of something.
If there is nothing to be concious of, then Conciousness is unconcious.
Therefore, God split into 2 dualities: Pure awareness/stuff to be aware of. There is experience and observation. We as human beings are usually in a state of experience, we're the reflection of God... the image of God. It's when we realize that our true nature is eternal awareness, conciousness, that we "become God".
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Spokesman
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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: RedNucleus]
#2067251 - 11/03/03 04:12 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, take a real good look at the story of "Creation" in Genesis, If you read carefully and in between the lines you'll will see that it's actually nothing humans can't do in the near future with the right advancements in technology. This story of creation in Genesis at no time describes "god(s)" materializing the Earth, it really just described a process were "god(s)" make the the Earth an inhabitable place for life to survive. Actually no diffrent than what NASA has prepared for Mars in worst case senario.
This is where the basis of Christianity gets tricky because if you study these early texts with logic instead of preconcived ideas about a spiritual "god(s)". Then you'll realize that the "god(s)" really doesent show any super-natural traits. Just advanced technology in planet restoration and DNA enginiering. As of matterfact he(they) displays many human-like characteristics. Like imposing laws with lies and fear tactics... " For the day you eat from it (Forbidden tree) thao shalt surely die". The serpent tells Eve that she will not die but will become like gods and her eyes would be open. Then when "god(s)" found out that humans had eaten from the tree he(they) said "Man has become one of us". What we have to understand is the perspective that a primitive human such as Moses would have while witnessing the creation. He would have not know if this "god(s)" were actually just evolved form of himself because evolution and technology was the last thing in his mind at the time of his visions. The only thing in his mind was spirituality and thats what you have to understand in order to read these text with any kind of logic.
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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: NiamhNyx]
#2067272 - 11/03/03 04:54 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow. cool. But I'll have to regard that as just a thought too.  have fun thinking 
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RedNucleus
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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: Spokesman]
#2067275 - 11/03/03 04:58 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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ehhhhh, ok. But you're slapping specifics on a vague piece of poetic literature/lore that has been translated countless times through different languages. And genesis talks about how God created the sky and then the sun and land, and all this. The bible's an over translated over edited textual comic book, in my humble opinion. It's cool to think though, you go on thinking.
Disregarding the bible then, it is interesting to think about the possibility that humans and maybe other life were engineered by other life in the universe. That's something I never considered. (I've been catholic basically my whole life, on and off, until recently when I let go of it, and didn't ever really allow myself to wonder about the nature of things if not created by the christian god)
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Namaste
Edited by RedNukleus (11/03/03 05:04 AM)
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EvilGir
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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: RedNucleus]
#2067332 - 11/03/03 06:10 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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"We are all infinite, individualized pieces of God. "
Infinite yes, individualized pieces of God no although we are all share the same internet server.
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Fighting the man the best way I can.
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RedNucleus
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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: EvilGir]
#2067393 - 11/03/03 06:59 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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dude.
there isn't any conversation if you just declare your thoughts as the truth.
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Shroomism
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 Re: Will we become gods? [Re: RedNucleus]
#2067860 - 11/03/03 11:37 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I see it like..we are all consciousnesses of god.. going off to experience subjective reality.. in order to gain experience ~ wisdom.. to drive the continual force of evolution.. we are all gods. but we don't remember it/awakened to it completely yet.
"God" the entity, lies on the other side, in perfect awareness, who is really the collective of us.
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Annapurna1
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The Atlantians, Lemurians, and the other 2 civilizations became corrupt and greedy enough to think of themselves as gods...and they got what they deserved. Unfortunately, it looks like were next.
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Shroomism
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 Re: Will we become gods? [Re: Annapurna1]
#2067892 - 11/03/03 11:49 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Atlantians, not the Lemurians..
It was a direct result of powerful technology too.
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RedNucleus
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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: Annapurna1]
#2068035 - 11/03/03 01:15 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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The majority of the people of our modern electronically linked civilizations do not believe themselves to be pieces of a god. I doubt you have much to worry about from that sort of problem.
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Annapurna1
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 Re: Will we become gods? [Re: Shroomism]
#2068130 - 11/03/03 01:58 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomism said:
The Atlantians, not the Lemurians..
It was a direct result of powerful technology too.
Well we might disagree on the specifics (flip-out doses of DPT have been known to do that ), but im sure we can both agree that Bush's America is speeding in that direction...In the mean time have 5 shrooms.
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"anchor blocks counteract the process of pontiprobation..while omalean globes regulize the pressure"...
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MadHamish
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Re: Will we become gods? [Re: Annapurna1]
#2068426 - 11/03/03 05:24 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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How do you distinguish between you being a god or not, or better, we being (a) god(s) or not? Is it a feeling experienced by your consciousness or will you distill this divine truth from the cause and effect thread that you spin? In other words, will you attain (let's think that we are not Gods yet) Godhood through spirituality, or will you turn to the temple of Science and Technology?
If you think about the latter, evidence tells us that immortality (considering this is a divine feat: a godlike ability if you like) is biologically feasable. Tumour cells for example take on the impression that they are immortal. Because of a mutation in a gene, the cell will produce cancer inducing enzymes. There are safeguards in a cell and normally they will do their job and induce a reaction chain resulting in the death of this cell (a process that is called apoptosis). One safeguard is the lifetime of a cell. This lifetime is dependent on how many telomeres a cell has. With each division, an healthy cell "uses" a telomere and in the end will run out of them and the energy of the cell will be recycled (apoptosis). Tumour cells bypassed this barrier. They will make the additional telomeres that are needed, ergo they will keep on deviding thus they will not cease to exist.
Hope yer still with me, for this is merely an example. An interesting question is: What if we could use this knowledge and counter ageing? Stretching this: Will man be able to counter ageing and adopt immortality?
Research on celbiology tells us that we can. Feats in the field of Medicine seem to agree with this. I believe that science is showing us ways to attain godlike abilities and researchers are ever eager to find the key to immortality. Is share their motivation. Obtaining godlike abilities is certainly possible and the religion of Science is the way to obtain these divine abilities...
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