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Invisiblez@z.com
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Good Books On Politics/Economics
    #1555574 - 05/17/03 03:20 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

With school out for the summer I have found myself with a lot of free time on my hands. I'm looking for some good books to read. I want to read some stuff from both sides of politics not just one side and I was looking for some suggestions.

(please don't suggest any conspiracy books or books that are not reputable)


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"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson


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Re: Good Books On Politics/Economics [Re: z@z.com]
    #1555668 - 05/17/03 04:07 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)



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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.


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Re: Good Books On Politics/Economics [Re: z@z.com]
    #1555999 - 05/17/03 12:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I have only read a few articles but Thom Hartmann is the author of several books on economics, politics, spirituality, mysticism, ecology, and culture. Many look like good reads.
http://www.thomhartmann.com/


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Re: Good Books On Politics/Economics [Re: z@z.com]
    #1556096 - 05/17/03 01:40 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Read stuff by Noam Chomsky.

http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/index.cfm


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Re: Good Books On Politics/Economics [Re: ]
    #1556380 - 05/17/03 04:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Fiend writes:

Read stuff by Noam Chomsky.

Hmmm. I thought z@z.com said:

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(please don't suggest any conspiracy books or books that are not reputable)




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Re: Good Books On Politics/Economics [Re: z@z.com]
    #1556384 - 05/17/03 05:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)


For economics, check out "Economics in One Lesson", by Henry Hazlitt.

Anything by Ludwig von Mises is also great. There is a ton of his stuff online, too -- no need to spend money.

http://www.mises.org/scholar.asp#Ludwig%20von

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Re: Good Books On Politics/Economics [Re: Phred]
    #1557190 - 05/18/03 02:08 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

pinkmeshark: until you can intelligently refute chomsky's theories, you shouldnt make such silly comments. if chomsky is a conspiracy theorist, then start a discussion on his flaws.

good book on politics:

franz kafka: the trial



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Re: Good Books On Politics/Economics [Re: Phred]
    #1557300 - 05/18/03 03:47 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Economics in One Lesson", by Henry Hazlitt

You consider Mises and Hazlitt "reputable"?  :grin: 


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Re: Good Books On Politics/Economics [Re: Phred]
    #1557763 - 05/18/03 02:32 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I actually thought about specifically mentioning Chomsky, but instead went with "please don't suggest any conspiracy books or books that are not reputable". If I get done reading everything else I want to read I might check out some Chomsky, but I highly doubt that will happen.

Anyone else have any suggestions for me? I am looking for some books on both sides.


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"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson


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Re: Good Books On Politics/Economics [Re: z@z.com]
    #1558398 - 05/18/03 09:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Good Books On Politics/Economics [Re: z@z.com]
    #1559070 - 05/19/03 01:23 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I actually thought about specifically mentioning Chomsky, but instead went with "please don't suggest any conspiracy books or books that are not reputable".

Have you ever read him?


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Re: Good Books On Politics/Economics [Re: z@z.com]
    #1559087 - 05/19/03 01:31 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

So obviously you aren't interested in reading books from "both sides." If it questions your current beliefs, forget it. Way to expand your horizons. Chomsky is not a conspiracy theorist.


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Re: Good Books On Politics/Economics [Re: ]
    #1559119 - 05/19/03 01:55 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I would second the Chomsky recommendation. He is reputable in the eyes of anyone who isn't wearing an ideological blindfold. And Fiend is right, there's nothing conspiratorial in anything Chomsky writes.

I would also suggest checking out some of the classics. Karl Polanyi's "The Great Transformation," Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nations," Max Weber's "The Protestant Work Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism," or classic anarchist philosophers such as Bakunin and Proudhon. I've always had a good time reading about the lives of important historical figures like Ghandi or Che Guevara. Or for some more current stuff, Naomi Klein's "Fences and Windows," Howard Zinn's "A People's History of America," or just go look around your library. Something will find you.


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Re: Good Books On Politics/Economics [Re: z@z.com]
    #1559417 - 05/19/03 06:17 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

I actually thought about specifically mentioning Chomsky, but instead went with "please don't suggest any conspiracy books or books that are not reputable". If I get done reading everything else I want to read I might check out some Chomsky, but I highly doubt that will happen.





How have you come to such firm opinions without even reading the mans books?


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Re: Good Books On Politics/Economics [Re: GazzBut]
    #1559600 - 05/19/03 10:51 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

All these suggestions are definately good, but if any of you need some lighter reading, F&L on the Campaign Trail is relatively good, although a bit off politics...


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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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Re: Good Books On Politics/Economics [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1560449 - 05/19/03 05:04 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

gazzbut- because his mind is like a rusty steel trap


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