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psylosymonreturns
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old ass december BC cyans or Entolomas ?
#15552584 - 12/21/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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i am just not sure on this because they are not printing. and i only got to see the patch for a few minutes in the dark.
the habitat is really wierd. its in my friends back yard that is a mixxed fir and cedar forest and these were growing under a bloody big cedar in needle duff!! my friend was super stoked that they are cyans and i think they might be but with out a print i am not letting him eat them. because they look eerily like a few blue and brown Entoloma species ive found in that kind of a habitat. what do you all think?

they were growing amongst these other orange mushrooms that i failed to get a gill show of.
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NeoSporen
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Look like cyans to me, especially in the second picture (did you notice the little guy on the stem?) Cool they are growing under cedar. i see those orange ones all over when hunting, and they are a good indicator species.
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: old ass december BC cyans or Entolomas ? [Re: NeoSporen]
#15552670 - 12/21/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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is this not the wierdesr habitat ever or what!!?? it blew my mind. now these are the genetics i want. my patches around home were done weeks ago! i only picked one and i got the stem butt on some eggcartons so hopefully i can spread these.
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NeoSporen
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I would almost guarantee that there is some wood mulch under all that cedar duff. Looks like the cold got to them a little bit, but that's ok. It's been such a weird year, doesn't surprise me things are still growing, trying to drop spores as hard as they can. Awesome specimens psylo
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riverdweller
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If those are cyans growing with cedar, Seattle should find that info very exciting.
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Gravija
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Re: old ass december BC cyans or Entolomas ? [Re: NeoSporen]
#15552700 - 12/21/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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 hmmm... Did you notice any bruising on this one?
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maynardjameskeenan
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They look like cyans to me as well. Maybe they are sterile and that's why the gills are colored like that, maybe.
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Gravija
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psylosymonreturns said: is this not the wierdesr habitat ever or what!!??e
Please, you pnw'rs can't even break wind without the crap particles landing amongst 4 cyan patches...
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ehtdaedlufetarg
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Re: old ass december BC cyans or Entolomas ? [Re: Gravija]
#15553335 - 12/21/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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The gills didn't look off-colored for the species to me. Yes, i agree that is a pretty strange habitat as long as it's not growing from any man-made substrate. You should really get under the duff and find what it's eating. If it's eating natural debris under a cedar that's something worth documenting with some photos, especially if you could prove it was eating anything Cedar.
Super cool find Psylo.
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: old ass december BC cyans or Entolomas ? [Re: ehtdaedlufetarg]
#15553535 - 12/21/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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so consensus says yes they are cyans then ,i did think so but i wanted a second opinion.

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riverdweller said: If those are cyans growing with cedar, Seattle should find that info very exciting.
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ehtdaedlufetarg said: The gills didn't look off-colored for the species to me. Yes, i agree that is a pretty strange habitat as long as it's not growing from any man-made substrate. You should really get under the duff and find what it's eating. If it's eating natural debris under a cedar that's something worth documenting with some photos, especially if you could prove it was eating anything Cedar.
Super cool find Psylo.
i did pluck one and the stem butt didnt have wood chips attached! just straight duff! but its a mix of fir and cedar like the forest itself and they might be growing off the fir needles, just under the cedar. either way this is quite odd and i think worth documenting. i just have to stop him from eating them for a solstice trip!! because i cant get there in daylight until saturday because of work.
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HarryL
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Blue brushing and spore print?????
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: old ass december BC cyans or Entolomas ? [Re: HarryL]
#15553633 - 12/21/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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they cant really bruise anymore than they already have from the freezing weather, and even after 24 hours no print yet.
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NeoSporen
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soak them in h20 for about an hour, then dry out the water on foil. This will give you some dried spores from the species. i use this technique for species that don't produce good prints. would give you a good idea of the spore color. Nice finds once again.
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ehtdaedlufetarg
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Re: old ass december BC cyans or Entolomas ? [Re: NeoSporen]
#15553683 - 12/21/11 10:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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bfogg8706 said: soak them in h20 for about an hour, then dry out the water on foil. This will give you some dried spores from the species. i use this technique for species that don't produce good prints. would give you a good idea of the spore color. Nice finds once again.
Yet another great idea from Bfogg.
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NeoSporen
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Re: old ass december BC cyans or Entolomas ? [Re: ehtdaedlufetarg]
#15553746 - 12/21/11 10:17 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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They will be contaminated, but that's ok. I've done this with baeocystis and worked out a good culture on agar within two transfers, as long as you use clean water
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