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vortex93
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Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford!
#15546948 - 12/20/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Desiccant isn't the easiest thing to find sometimes and sometimes when you do find it, ITS EXPENSIVE (depending on where you get it). I have found silica gel bulk of 4 lbs for $30 + $10 shipping!
So I searched around and discovered something interesting. Epsom salt, which can be bought at any drug store for a couple dollars, is a cheap alternative desiccant to get those shroomies the envied CRACKER DRY!
Regular Epsom salt will do nothing as a desiccant, however if we bake it at around 400 - 450 F for about 2 hours which turns Epsom salt (MgSO4ยท7H2O) into Magnesium Sulfate(MgSO4) it becomes a powerful desiccant. The cooking process removes the 7H20 from the compound making the salt search for H20 in the air to re hydrate itself.
Ingredients: Any Epsom Salt
Steps: 1. Get a pan that you don't mind scratching OR line the pan with aluminum foil. 2. Preheat oven to 400-450 F. (450 if you use more then a centimeter) 3. Fill pan with about a centimeter of Epsom salt. 4. Put pan in oven and cook for 2 hours. (You can mix it once after its been in for a half hour, then leave it) 5. Now speed is important here, The Epsom salt will become a solid cake that looks completely white. Remove the pan and right away break up the salt with a knife or hammer etc, and put in an airtight jar/container RIGHT AWAY!
DO NOT LET IT COOL FIRST!! The faster you get it in the airtight container, the stronger it will be. However it doesn't re-hydrate in 5 minutes, so you don't have to race to finish, but do it as fast as possible without straining yourself;).
Once its in the container shake it up to break up the pieces as much as you can.
Then get a Tupperware container fill the bottom with some salt (about an ince or a little less) then put a paper towel down on top to cover it all. I then put my shrooms in a coffee filter and set that on top of the paper towel. Put the lid on and leave it for about 24 hours.
STILL IN DEVELOPMENT (Will post with picture and effectiveness updates after some more trials)
Things to note:
This is an awesome organic alternative to the regular chemical desiccants.
Its also re-usable (like most desiccants), when the crystals lose their whitish color for a more clear crystal look (kinda like what it looks like out of the bag) you can re-bake it with the same steps ahead!
Update: Efficiency,
From the first trial approx 3g's of water have been removed from the shrooms in about 4-5 hours. 17g to start and 14g now. All the shrooms were heat dried for 2 hours at 100 F today before being put in the chamber.
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Edited by vortex93 (12/20/11 08:39 PM)
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: vortex93]
#15546962 - 12/20/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Very cool. Keep us posted!
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: vortex93]
#15546984 - 12/20/11 06:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow this sounds great I was thinking about how I was going to dry my mushrooms plus its cheap the salts wont affect the mushrooms at all sitting on top of this.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: fatal222316] 1
#15547573 - 12/20/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Update: Efficiency,
From the first trial approx 3g's of water have been removed from the shrooms in about 4-5 hours. 17g to start and 14g now. All the shrooms were heat dried for 2 hours at 100 F today before being put in the chamber.
Seems to be working well! Hopefully these bastard are dry for tmw morning cause i can't wait to trip!!!
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: vortex93]
#15549567 - 12/21/11 08:59 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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12 hours since last weigh in, they now weigh 10g from 14g. Therefore they have lost another 4g of water in the last 12 hours.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: vortex93]
#15549587 - 12/21/11 09:04 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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epsom salt is IMO the best desiccant.
reusable.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: k00laid]
#15550008 - 12/21/11 10:52 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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You should realize, though, that drying is for storage. If you can't wait to trip, you can eat them wet.
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vortex93
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The problem is that all of them are either almost completely cracker dry but still a bit wet, or they are just about 50% dry. So dosing is the hard part. I want a strong trip, but i dont want to overdose and mentally die for 3 hours :P.
And itll be my first trip from SWIMS home grown shrooms
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Edited by vortex93 (12/21/11 11:12 AM)
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Desiccant Cheaper.... [Re: vortex93]
#15550704 - 12/21/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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spam
Edited by Prisoner#1 (12/22/11 10:25 PM)
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Re: Desiccant Cheaper.... [Re: billwright]
#15555280 - 12/22/11 08:43 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its 40 bucks from that link you sent me, after the coupon code. + I live in Canada
Epsom salt is like 10 bucks for 5 pounds and its reuseable as well
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Re: Desiccant Cheaper.... [Re: vortex93]
#15555315 - 12/22/11 08:53 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is a great thing to share
Thanks doooood!
Can't wait to see how it turns.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: vortex93]
#15814303 - 02/15/12 04:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Any update on how this turned out? Seems like a great way to dry.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: rodent]
#15814460 - 02/15/12 05:02 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey dude, thanks for kicking down the wisdom!
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: Sparkit]
#15820103 - 02/16/12 06:40 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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This worked out amazing. Completely dried out my shrooms even with one batch that i didnt dry to much before hand. I would suggest re-baking the epsom salt once its done drying so that it keeps the container nice and dry for storage.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: vortex93]
#15820123 - 02/16/12 06:44 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Friggin' A+ mate! Thanks for that gem!
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: vortex93]
#17242058 - 11/18/12 05:04 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great tek! I am currently attempting this but I had a question....once the salt is removed from the oven I put it in an air tight container but its still really hot....do I wait for it too cool down in the container before adding the shrooms?
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: shroomhead77]
#17242080 - 11/18/12 05:08 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Very nice tek I might give this a try. How would you say this tek is compared to a dehydrator?
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: Blackd0ve420]
#17242694 - 11/18/12 06:38 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Blackd0ve420 said: Very nice tek I might give this a try. How would you say this tek is compared to a dehydrator?
i would just shop a thrift shop for a dehydrator. cant beat a $5-$10 dehydrator.
plus if you grow bulk, you can fit soooo much in the dehydrator
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: Blake_Shroom]
#17242722 - 11/18/12 06:44 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can get Damp rid loose granules for 1.25$ a lb. would you recommend Epsom salt over this or is it a "if you get it cheaper use it" thing?
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: MoGrow]
#17242737 - 11/18/12 06:46 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Epsom salt you would compare to using Damp-Rid, not a dehydrator. Dehydrator is the best method of drying IMO/IME. Quickest way of drying = less oxidation = more potent.
Epsom salt will do the same thing Damp-rid or any other desiccant will do. Except Epsom salts are rechargeable and easily obtainable, and cheaper. Just requires more work to get it ready unlike Damp-rid or other products that are ready to go.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: MoGrow]
#17242742 - 11/18/12 06:47 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was thinking this very thing the other night. Realistically any salt will work. Even regular table salt. Rock Salt. Calcium Road salt. Etc..... All salt is hygroscopic, meaning it highly attracts water molecules. Salt in is stable state is hydrous. For it to be a desiccant you need it to be anhydrous. Hence the baking to drive off the water.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: Sillyputty67]
#17242796 - 11/18/12 06:56 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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malicom said: I was thinking this very thing the other night. Realistically any salt will work. Even regular table salt. Rock Salt. Calcium Road salt. Etc..... All salt is hygroscopic, meaning it highly attracts water molecules. Salt in is stable state is hydrous. For it to be a desiccant you need it to be anhydrous. Hence the baking to drive off the water.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: MoGrow]
#17242983 - 11/18/12 07:23 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Awesome Tek thanks for sharing
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: 2141zach]
#17243021 - 11/18/12 07:29 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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All you need to do is weigh your salt before and after you bake it to determine its capacity.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: Sillyputty67]
#17385741 - 12/13/12 01:23 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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malicom said: All you need to do is weigh your salt before and after you bake it to determine its capacity.
Wow that actually pretty smart, never thought of that! =P
PS you dont have to let it cool, it cools pretty fast. And I oven dried my shrooms to driest possible and finished em off in these chambers. Oven dried at 100F, door open with fan running (its a convection oven with drying setting, which ur supposed to leave door open for)
A dehydrator is def nice but whatever works with whatever you can/already have
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: vortex93]
#17393300 - 12/14/12 06:14 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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vortex93 said: Steps: 1. Get a pan that you don't mind scratching OR line the pan with aluminum foil. 2. Preheat oven to 400-450 F. (450 if you use more then a centimeter) 3. Fill pan with about a centimeter of Epsom salt. 4. Put pan in oven and cook for 2 hours. (You can mix it once after its been in for a half hour, then leave it) 5. Now speed is important here, The Epsom salt will become a solid cake that looks completely white. Remove the pan and right away break up the salt with a knife or hammer etc, and put in an airtight jar/container RIGHT AWAY!
Having prepared dry epsom salts numerous times, here's my 2 cents.
I would not recommend placing full sized epsom salts straight in the oven. They will pop like popcorn and get all over your oven (learned the hard way). It sucks cleaning it up. Grind it down to a powder first.
Also, keep the heat on the oven on low first, something ~200-250 F. While it's baking, swirl it around, don't let it cake on the bottom. When it cakes, it traps water inside. Much of the water can be removed at this temp. Once you don't notice more moisture coming out, ramp it up to 300 F, then >400. The final bits of water will be removed at around this temp. So the key is to ramp up the heat slowly and stir it a lot, because if it goes too fast, it will release so much water that it will redissolve in the water to form a cake and the cake won't dry effectively.
Your end product should be a very fine dry powder that feels like talc, cement or gypsum. If it's a cake, then it still has water inside. You can let it cool for several hours at room temp. There's no hurry to place it in an airtight container. When it starts to soak up moisture, it will start to clump and that could take a week in open air.
A note on drying mushrooms. Due to the limited amount of air movement in an airtight container, dehydrating agents are slow at drying. Do not place fresh mushrooms in there in any large quantity (small quantities will work fine). They will rot before they are cracker dry. Dry them in open air first.
Edited by teal (12/14/12 06:15 PM)
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: teal]
#17467861 - 12/29/12 07:11 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Makes complete sense but mine came out exactly like you describe, cement or gypsum, it would instantly make your hands dry just touching it. I may have cooked at 500 up to 3 hours though, I fiddled with temps and was fairly patient while it cooked as I knew there was no real time limit.
At the end I agree you're way will come out better but I don't know if its to a measurable degree, making it not worth the hassle of fiddling and watching and stirring. Maybe some people don't mind but I hate constantly checking on something especially if im busy, but then again im lazy.
PS. I did it in a old toaster oven but I didn't cover it or anything and there was absolutely no mess and I can't recall hearing popping. However maybe you had larger salt crystals, but that was just my experience, I think it varies so if you'd rather be safe and avoid hassles, follow his advice or cover it with tin foil at least!
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Edited by vortex93 (12/29/12 07:15 PM)
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: vortex93]
#17511817 - 01/07/13 12:17 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well I dried my mucks in open air for about 6-8 hours before using the Epson salt.
12 hours ago they weighed 34.1 grams now they weight 9.4 so they lost 24.7 grams of water in 12 hours. This is a good method to dry your mushrooms if you do not want to wait two to three days or do not have desiccant on hand.
This is most likely going to be the last time I try this since I just bought a food dehydrator.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: teal]
#17511836 - 01/07/13 12:21 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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teal said: A note on drying mushrooms. Due to the limited amount of air movement in an airtight container, dehydrating agents are slow at drying. Do not place fresh mushrooms in there in any large quantity (small quantities will work fine). They will rot before they are cracker dry. Dry them in open air first.
^^^ This
Using a fan helps speed the process if you don't have a dehydrator.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: vortex93]
#18166567 - 04/25/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is awesome! Thank you, for I have a big ass carton of epsom salt, I'm approaching first flush, and I haven't the money for a desiccant. All I have are the little silica gel packets. about 4 of them I was going to put in the baggie with them to keep them dry.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: Alacubenzis]
#18580470 - 07/19/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quick question...
I prepared my epsom salt last night, put it in air tight container, and put my shrooms in today. Will it still work or does it only work when the epsom salt is still warm from the oven?
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#18580528 - 07/19/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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epsom salt (magnesium sulfate heptahydrate) can be dried in the microwave, and in fact this is how its done where I am from. Just be sure to use pyrex dish, or it will crack.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: trade_om]
#18581073 - 07/19/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dehydrators are less than $40.. You've probably spent more than that getting the rest of your equipment you might as well dry them properly.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: GreenRabbit]
#18581097 - 07/19/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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GreenRabbit said: Dehydrators are less than $40.. You've probably spent more than that getting the rest of your equipment you might as well dry them properly.
Already ordered. But I have a harvest that needs to dry before it gets here tuesday and I have a whole bag of this stuff. I decided to just dry it on a screen over a box fan. Probably take forever and kill my potency though.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#18581799 - 07/19/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea dont worry, fan drying once will be good enough till the dehydrator gets there
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: Sillyputty67]
#18583720 - 07/20/13 04:59 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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malicom said: I found a better "right" way to dry shrooms. This way preserves all your potency, and does not oxidize your psilocin.
With a vacuum. Like this.
I would like to see a video of this with fresh mushrooms in the jar!
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: trade_om]
#18583780 - 07/20/13 05:51 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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trade_om said: epsom salt (magnesium sulfate heptahydrate) can be dried in the microwave, and in fact this is how its done where I am from. Just be sure to use pyrex dish, or it will crack.
I cracked a pyrex dish in the microwave about a week and a half ago microwaving vermiculite =/
Good idea to use Epsom salt though.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: MidgetPawn]
#18583796 - 07/20/13 05:59 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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MidgetPawn said: I cracked a pyrex dish in the microwave about a week and a half ago microwaving vermiculite =/
Microwave ovens do not sterilize.
And there is no need to sterilize verm anyways.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: PussyFart]
#18583823 - 07/20/13 06:26 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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MidgetPawn said: I cracked a pyrex dish in the microwave about a week and a half ago microwaving vermiculite =/
Microwave ovens do not sterilize.
And there is no need to sterilize verm anyways.
Off topic for OP, but ~~> Say whaaaa? Pretty sure mircowave ovens sterilize stuff.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: OldHam]
#18583936 - 07/20/13 07:55 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pretty sure?
Or just guessing?
A microwave oven will never even get anything to 100C, which is not quite hot enough to sterilize everything anyways.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: PussyFart]
#18584776 - 07/20/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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That^^^. Besides that's a microwave has a very long wavelength, only a few peaks of the wave actually exist inside. That's why there's always a spinning thing. But no, microwaves don't sterilize anything, they just heat it unevenly
And like NaH said, you're still limited by the boiling point of water so you might as well just steam sterilize
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: Deadkndys420]
#18584798 - 07/20/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Deadkndys420 said:This is most likely going to be the last time I try this since I just bought a food dehydrator.
I guarantee you will never waste time with desiccant drying again and you will wonder what took you so long to get a dehydrator.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: Juiceh]
#18584810 - 07/20/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea I don't think you'll ever see someone say "damn this dehydrator sucks, I wish I had more dessicants." Lol unless they broke theirs somehow
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: PussyFart]
#18585634 - 07/20/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: Pretty sure?
Or just guessing?
A microwave oven will never even get anything to 100C, which is not quite hot enough to sterilize everything anyways.
This is not quite true. You can smelt metal with a microwave magnetron. You could sterilize with a microwave, but you would need to mod it into a pressure cooker. Realistically its just a heat source, but is little use to us in mycology without heavy modification.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: Sillyputty67]
#18585643 - 07/20/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mod a microwave into a pressure cooker... Sounds like it will go BOOM
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: Sillyputty67]
#18585850 - 07/20/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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malicom said: This is not quite true. You can smelt metal with a microwave magnetron.
But nobody really has one of those.
I was referring to a typical microwave oven.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: PussyFart]
#18586008 - 07/20/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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I did once see someone claim that they successfully prepped agar in a microwave, but i dont know if im buying it.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: PussyFart]
#18586127 - 07/20/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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MidgetPawn said: I cracked a pyrex dish in the microwave about a week and a half ago microwaving vermiculite =/
Microwave ovens do not sterilize.
And there is no need to sterilize verm anyways.
I ran out of vermiculite at the time and had to use old jar top layer. I figured it was better than nothing.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: MidgetPawn]
#18586922 - 07/20/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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I believe there is a tek in which someone demonstrates a 60/40 coir/verm method that is *pasteurized* in the microwave.
I used it in the past when I didnt have access to free, organic hpoo 24/7 and lacked a full understanding of pasteurization.
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LateForTheFuture said: I believe there is a tek in which someone demonstrates a 60/40 coir/verm method that is *pasteurized* in the microwave.
That tek is an obvious fail, because there is no way to control the temperature of the substrate.
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: PussyFart]
#19349345 - 12/31/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Using this same tek, would it be logical to put a little bit of freshly baked epsom salt inside the airtight container with the fully cracker dry mushrooms to keep them dry and good?
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Re: Epsom Salt Tek! Drying anyone can afford! [Re: vortex93]
#26588972 - 04/09/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I first dried my shrooms out with a fan until they were cracker dry. Then I used this TEK, and my shrooms gained moisture. I had to redry them with the fan again.
WTF??
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