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OfflineBig_Sexy
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What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface!
    #15533266 - 12/18/11 12:41 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Yes I know I probably shouldn't have messed up the surface of my straw/poo monotub, but it was mainly my girlfriend who did most of it when she picked the 2nd round of the 1st flush
:discorex::minifo: So the surface has divots all over it and the sides are messy as well, so is there anything i should do like tidy up the surface and edges before the 2nd flush comes in?


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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15533287 - 12/18/11 12:50 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Not really, just try and be careful when plucking shrooms. Twist at the base and then pull, i know it gets hard and annoying though.


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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: TacoHerder]
    #15533289 - 12/18/11 12:50 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

did you dunk it for about 12hrs?


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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: TacoHerder]
    #15533316 - 12/18/11 01:00 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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did you dunk it for about 12hrs?




No. no dunk, the substrate is just to big and unconsolidated to be dunked, at least if i have to take it out of the tub.  Any suggestions on how I could dunk without taking the substrate out of the tub?  maybe poor some filtered water in there and then drain it out after 12 hours?  FYI I'm taking your question as a recommendation that I should dunk the monster monotub FYI its in a 125L stearlite the biggest one i could find. Oh, and I can tell theres a lot of moisture left in the substrate, but more obviously wouldn't be a bad thing :tweakin:

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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15533335 - 12/18/11 01:11 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Divots in the surface never seem to affect my flushes. I have had great flushes on torn up substrate.


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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: audiophoenix]
    #15533340 - 12/18/11 01:13 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Divots in the surface never seem to affect my flushes. I have had great flushes on torn up substrate.




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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15533353 - 12/18/11 01:19 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

if it still seems like its got enough moisture then i guess dont dunk it. I always taped up my holes and filled the mono with some water. Then drain after 12 hrs, let dry out for a day. Then introduce into fruiting conditions again. Ofcourse my subs are always a mixture of coir/verm or straw/manure. Having a trash bag liner makes that step a lot easier.


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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15533537 - 12/18/11 03:34 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Next time, slice the mushrooms off at the base with a sharp knife, leaving the stump in place, which causes no damage.  Leaving divots, especially with straw can cause green molds, plus the substrate must waste energy and time recovering.
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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #15533628 - 12/18/11 04:54 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Next time, slice the mushrooms off at the base with a sharp knife, leaving the stump in place, which causes no damage.  Leaving divots, especially with straw can cause green molds, plus the substrate must waste energy and time recovering.
RR




I've seen you recommend this a few times before, and I have to express some partial dissent.  I don't like the idea of new growers (many of whom are young) using sharp knives when more often than not it is unnecessary to do so.  I just don't want to see anyone get hurt and slice up their fingers.

I am in full agreement that it is of the utmost importance not to disturb the surface of the substrate which will disrupt neighboring knots and pins, but the reality is that usually (at least with cubes) some gentle pushing and pulling, and perhaps a little twisting can detach a fruit with little to no damage to the surface at all.  The exception is when you have a wall-to-wall canopy of mushrooms and you can't even reach the stems without tearing out a huge cluster.  That's the only occasion when I use a blade.

But it's very noticeable how pins and younger fruits are much more firmly attached to the surface, and slowly they become looser and easier to remove as they mature, to point where at full maturity they often dislodge themselves!  This leads me to believe that it is an evolutionary function and that the mycelium actually wants the fruitbodies to detach.

And I have absolutely witnessed stumps of stems and unpicked aborts begin to rot and get overtaken over with green and pink molds, before mold strikes anywhere else.  So I wouldn't be so lenient about allowing stumps to just sit there dunk after dunk, waiting to rot.  Although RR probably tosses his subs before this happens, but we're not all commercial farmers with new trays immediately ready to replace older ones.

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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: Dudester67]
    #15533695 - 12/18/11 05:47 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I'm sorry but if someone can't be trusted with a small paring knife then they shouldn't be using Pressure cookers, syringes (they hurt too, trust me) or illegal hallucinogens.

Mushrooms are like any other fruit off of a tree. You wouldn't tear branches off the tree to get the fruit and expect good results later. The mycelial mat is the real miracle/organism and it benefits from not getting mortared. If your being overtaken with green I suspect not enough FAE or over saturation.

I never had a cut stem rot. My 2nd flushes are always greater when I cut vs. pull. RR knows what he is chirpin' about. We see new primordia form all the time next to cut stems but never in a new divot.

Plus you don't have to brush the substrate off the stem and you also bypass that nasty tasting stump at the bottom. :laugh:


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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: Dudester67]
    #15533700 - 12/18/11 05:52 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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I've seen you recommend this a few times before, and I have to express some partial dissent.  I don't like the idea of new growers (many of whom are young) using sharp knives when more often than not it is unnecessary to do so.




:lmafo:
this did make me chuckle.
should the kids who aren't allowed to play with knives be growing psychedelic mushrooms? which is more dangerous?


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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: Dr.Boomstik]
    #15533713 - 12/18/11 06:00 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm sorry but if someone can't be trusted with a small paring knife then they shouldn't be using Pressure cookers, syringes (they hurt too, trust me) or illegal hallucinogens.




then by you're own statement you shouldn't be trusted with "illegal hallucinogens" either since you stabbed yourself with a syringe :wink:

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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: tryptonite]
    #15533722 - 12/18/11 06:09 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

Dr.Boomstik said:
I'm sorry but if someone can't be trusted with a small paring knife then they shouldn't be using Pressure cookers, syringes (they hurt too, trust me) or illegal hallucinogens.




then by you're own statement you shouldn't be trusted with "illegal hallucinogens" either since you stabbed yourself with a syringe :wink:




right!?  :laugh2:

I only did that once and won't do that again. Learning is fun in hindsight. Thank goodness I don't use them anymore eh? I'd be a danger to myself and others for sure.:thumbup:


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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: Dr.Boomstik]
    #15534010 - 12/18/11 09:08 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

we are all adults here.

this is an 18+ forum only.

we can all handle sharp knives and sharp needles.

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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: k00laid]
    #15534045 - 12/18/11 09:15 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: vortex93]
    #15534374 - 12/18/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

:gameover: I'm glad I read this whole thread
The divots piss me off when they hold misted water in little pools

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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: tryptonite] * 1
    #15534458 - 12/18/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

Dr.Boomstik said:
I'm sorry but if someone can't be trusted with a small paring knife then they shouldn't be using Pressure cookers, syringes (they hurt too, trust me) or illegal hallucinogens.




then by you're own statement you shouldn't be trusted with "illegal hallucinogens" either since you stabbed yourself with a syringe :wink:




:lol:

One of these days, I'll release the 'blooper' clips from when I filmed "Let's Grow Mushrooms".  During the agar transfer section, I accidentally dropped my scalpel, and the razor-sharp, red-hot blade landed on my thigh and stuck into the flesh, just as if a knife thrower tossed it as hard as he could.

Needless to say, I screamed "#^*_@#" as loud as I could while jumping around the room in pain, and it was all caught on camera. :facepalm:

The only other time I cursed that loud was when Mrs Rabbits huge tits kept getting in the way during filming the straw log tek.  I had to stop filming several times to point out to her where the camera was, but she kept getting those knockers in the way of the log I was trying to fill, so I had to go ballistic on her, and that's caught on camera too. :lmafo:
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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #15534510 - 12/18/11 11:28 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

One mans pain is another mans pleasure, LOL Those bloopers sound hilarious, I was almost laughing just reading about it :laugh2: :popcorn:


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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: vortex93]
    #15534600 - 12/18/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hey rr post the bloopers! Or sell the uncut version lol

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Re: What to do with substrate surface after 1st flush is picked? Because i murdered the surface! [Re: tripchip]
    #15534655 - 12/18/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah really thats pretty rich, I would love to see the clips from LGM. How funny is it that dudester67 is worried about us playing with knives, apparently from what RR said happened, this is a dangerous hobby;) I think dudester67 is trolling us :trollmove:  :trollhide:

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