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I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in.
#15505647 - 12/12/11 04:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I haven't really discussed it with anyone, but I decided to make a still air box where I can go in myself.
I already have a glovebox alike sab, but now I want to make a sab for spawning to bulk.
I'm doing this, because I want to maximize the chance of success. I have had terrible luck with my grow attempts and I have a reason to believe that my house is filled with trich spores.
I haven't been pasteurizing properly though, just following damions bucket tek, but lets not talk about this in this thread.
I just want you to say what you think of the idea of making a sab where I can literally go in, bleach the whole area and then spawn to bulk.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Vibration]
#15505701 - 12/12/11 04:28 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Vibration said: I haven't really discussed it with anyone, but I decided to make a still air box where I can go in myself.
Isn't that just called a room?
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Dudester67]
#15505708 - 12/12/11 04:29 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Vibration]
#15505710 - 12/12/11 04:30 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Very interesting Vibes.
I have thought about building a box/room in which I could put my flow hood.
Then running it for a while would give me not just a flow of clean air, but a relatively clean room to work with.
Let us know how it goes.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: HaywoodJablomi]
#15505715 - 12/12/11 04:31 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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fyi bleach dosent kill mold spores but have you thought about making one out of pvc and plastic sheeting should not be to hard. how big a space we talking about here?
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Vibration]
#15505720 - 12/12/11 04:32 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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i think maybe if you used the smaller SAB in side of the larger SAR (still air room) you might be able to higher success. but i think the large box alone would not work so well. your body moving through the box would cause drafts and blow spores around. thats why i think the 2 boxes might work well.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Dudester67]
#15505725 - 12/12/11 04:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Vibration said: I haven't really discussed it with anyone, but I decided to make a still air box where I can go in myself.
Isn't that just called a room?
Room within a room? I'd still like to think about it as a box.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: HaywoodJablomi]
#15505736 - 12/12/11 04:35 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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i have made boxes like you are talking about many time working in mold restoration (hint they wear all green) you can buy these zipper doors online for about 20$ or make a t flap door or a Z door with multiple layers of plastic. i still have my book on how to do it if you like
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: jimmyjame1]
#15505764 - 12/12/11 04:39 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Javadog said: Very interesting Vibes.
I have thought about building a box/room in which I could put my flow hood.
Then running it for a while would give me not just a flow of clean air, but a relatively clean room to work with.
Let us know how it goes.
Good luck,
JD
But I'm thinking of making a small one. Just to fit me and my spawn and tubs.
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jimmyjame1 said: i think maybe if you used the smaller SAB in side of the larger SAR (still air room) you might be able to higher success. but i think the large box alone would not work so well. your body moving through the box would cause drafts and blow spores around. thats why i think the 2 boxes might work well.
You have a point, but I would be able to spray and wipe the walls easily inside as I've already closed the door.
I would wear a surgical mask and swimming glasses too.
I would wipe myself with alcohol and wear a gummy hat.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Vibration]
#15505800 - 12/12/11 04:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can't imagine that being good for your respiratory system or any of the holes on your body, not including the millions of pores being doused in solvents. Sounds scary man, I don't know.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Vibration]
#15505806 - 12/12/11 04:44 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Vibration said: Room within a room? I'd still like to think about it as a box.
Maybe consider cleaning out a closet and giving it full bleach/alcohol treatment.
The purpose of a glove box is to minimize the size of your workspace and thereby reduce the amount of airborne contaminants. So any glove box that's big enough for you yourself to work inside couldn't be much smaller than a closet.
I don't know if you've diagnosed your problem correctly, but you may also want to consider spawning a tub outdoors.
Trich has a hard time germinating on coir, so if your spawn is perfectly healthy like you say there may be something else going on. Are you keeping a few jars aside as "controls" to see if they also contam?
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: HaywoodJablomi]
#15505849 - 12/12/11 04:50 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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HaywoodJablomi said: fyi bleach dosent kill mold spores
I believe bleach DOES kill mold spores. At least I've always thought so.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Dudester67]
#15505898 - 12/12/11 05:00 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dudester67 said: Trich has a hard time germinating on coir, so if your spawn is perfectly healthy like you say there may be something else going on. Are you keeping a few jars aside as "controls" to see if they also contam?
I don't believe that trich has hard time germinating on coir.
Look. 7 days after spawning to bulk.

This is my latest tub (mini msg mono). I mixed the substrate unevenly. You can see that. Guess what happened?
This is 14 days after spawning to bulk.

But unfortunately, the next day after that I discovered first white dots of trick on the bottom, right at the uncolonized area.
It had enough time to germinate there.. 2 weeks. I believe it wouldn't have happened, if I had mixed the substrate evenly and the whole tub would have had full colonization after 7 days of spawning to bulk.
My tub was fully colonized on day 7, just except for this spot which happened by mistake of mine.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Dudester67]
#15505914 - 12/12/11 05:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dudester67 said: Are you keeping a few jars aside as "controls" to see if they also contam?
Yes, I've done that. I have not had contamination in my grain jars. They are healthy. I've made G2G transfers too.
I've also fruited about 60 BRF cakes with the same innoculant.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Dudester67]
#15505956 - 12/12/11 05:11 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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this is too funny, and not necessary. Of course you have a house full of mold spores, and so dose most everyone else. I have inoculated jars out in my old dirty barn. Thats what the glovebox is for. It is absolutely irrelevant how much spores are in the air. The important part is, do you have air movement, is it really a still air box? Dose your glove box seal up well? Are you loading , then spraying with 10% bleach solution, and maybe 10% vinegar? After you load, then spray inside your box, Do you then allow 5 to 10 minutes, for the bleach solution to actually work? Check in to these questions first, before you go messing with things like that, dont waist your time. I can do anything anyone can do in fount of a flow hood, out in my dirty old barn, using a simple glove box. I owen 2 flow hoods, and I loaned one to a buddy, and the other is under some box's in my shed.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Vibration]
#15505960 - 12/12/11 05:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I still believe your problem is pasteurizing. I was going overkill on flippin everything. New tubs, did controlled jars, bleach/iso, painters plastic covering everything.
Nothing changed until I properly pasteurized and stopped using the bucket tek. Not a sinle contam out of the last 50 tubs done.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: roaddog]
#15506063 - 12/12/11 05:28 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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roaddog said: this is too funny, and not necessary. Of course you have a house full of mold spores, and so dose most everyone else. I have inoculated jars out in my old dirty barn. Thats what the glovebox is for. It is absolutely irrelevant how much spores are in the air. The important part is, do you have air movement, is it really a still air box? Dose your glove box seal up well? Are you loading , then spraying with 10% bleach solution, and maybe 10% vinegar? After you load, then spray inside your box, Do you then allow 5 to 10 minutes, for the bleach solution to actually work? Check in to these questions first, before you go messing with things like that, dont waist your time. I can do anything anyone can do in fount of a flow hood, out in my dirty old barn, using a simple glove box. I owen 2 flow hoods, and I loaned one to a buddy, and the other is under some box's in my shed.
It looks like that, but I've been suggested to deattach those gloves, so I cut them off and now there are only sleeves.

But I haven't really sprayed with bleach inside. I've only used alcohol.. Hmmmm....
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: LegalLife420]
#15506074 - 12/12/11 05:29 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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LegalLife420 said: I still believe your problem is pasteurizing. I was going overkill on flippin everything. New tubs, did controlled jars, bleach/iso, painters plastic covering everything.
Nothing changed until I properly pasteurized and stopped using the bucket tek. Not a sinle contam out of the last 50 tubs done.
Man, it's such a relief to hear that. Thank you.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Vibration]
#15506085 - 12/12/11 05:31 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Vibration said: I don't believe that trich has hard time germinating on coir.
It does, whether you believe it or not. ...Of course trich will grow on coir if you introduce contaminated grain spawn, but try leaving a bowl of coir just sitting around the house. I'll bet you it doesn't mold.
Out of curiosity what kind of coir are you using? Sometimes trich is added to coir intentionally. That's why most people around here use the coir found in pet stores for reptiles. Is that what you're using?
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Dudester67]
#15506142 - 12/12/11 05:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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use bleach, vinegar and water. I use alcohol on syringes, injection ports, aluminum foil on top of grain jars, that sort of thing. I use bleach, and vinegar, on spaces, that I want to clean, like glovebox, and Martha's, SG FC, that sort of thing.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: roaddog]
#15506182 - 12/12/11 05:50 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Vibration said: I don't believe that trich has hard time germinating on coir.
It does, whether you believe it or not. ...Of course trich will grow on coir if you introduce contaminated grain spawn, but try leaving a bowl of coir just sitting around the house. I'll bet you it doesn't mold.
Out of curiosity what kind of coir are you using? Sometimes trich is added to coir intentionally. That's why most people around here use the coir found in pet stores for reptiles. Is that what you're using?
Yup, that's what I'm using too.
But are you saying my spawn is contaminated? Many people already have told me that they've not had any contaminations since they started pasteurizing coir properly.
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roaddog said: use bleach, vinegar and water. I use alcohol on syringes, injection ports, aluminum foil on top of grain jars, that sort of thing. I use bleach, and vinegar, on spaces, that I want to clean, like glovebox, and Martha's, SG FC, that sort of thing.
I'm going to use my sab for G2G transfers in a moment. What solution should I use? How much water, how much bleach and how much vinegar?
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Vibration]
#15506237 - 12/12/11 05:58 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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10% bleach, 10% veniger, and 80% water. I usualy eye it.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Dudester67]
#15506284 - 12/12/11 06:06 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Vibration said: I don't believe that trich has hard time germinating on coir.
It does, whether you believe it or not. ...Of course trich will grow on coir if you introduce contaminated grain spawn, but try leaving a bowl of coir just sitting around the house. I'll bet you it doesn't mold.
Out of curiosity what kind of coir are you using? Sometimes trich is added to coir intentionally. That's why most people around here use the coir found in pet stores for reptiles. Is that what you're using?
This is a good point.
Some coir is intentionally infected with trich as it has beneficial effects when in the soil (I suppose).
Pasteurization (even bucket tek) kills the trich though.
Perhaps your bucket tek did not manage to raise all of the coir to the desired temp ranges? This does not seem likely.
Good luck,
JD
P.S. It has been found that the combination of H2O2 and vinegar is about as complete a disinfectant as there is: http://www.michaelandjudystouffer.com/judy/articles/vinegar.htm
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Javadog]
#15506356 - 12/12/11 06:17 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Javadog said: Pasteurization (even bucket tek) kills the trich though.
Perhaps your bucket tek did not manage to raise all of the coir to the desired temp ranges? This does not seem likely.
I've even had dry clumps of coir standing there after bucket pasteurization.
Also the bucket I used didn't seal 100%. The lid was loosely just on, but I placed a weight on it to seal it.
I don't know.. at least now I have a descent bucket, which seals 100%. But I think I will bring it to field capacity in this bucket and then I'll load the coir into jars and pasteurize them for 2h between 150 and 180F.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Javadog]
#15506426 - 12/12/11 06:29 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Vibration said: I don't believe that trich has hard time germinating on coir.
It does, whether you believe it or not. ...Of course trich will grow on coir if you introduce contaminated grain spawn, but try leaving a bowl of coir just sitting around the house. I'll bet you it doesn't mold.
Out of curiosity what kind of coir are you using? Sometimes trich is added to coir intentionally. That's why most people around here use the coir found in pet stores for reptiles. Is that what you're using?
This is a good point.
Some coir is intentionally infected with trich as it has beneficial effects when in the soil (I suppose).
Pasteurization (even bucket tek) kills the trich though.
Perhaps your bucket tek did not manage to raise all of the coir to the desired temp ranges? This does not seem likely.
Good luck,
JD
P.S. It has been found that the combination of H2O2 and vinegar is about as complete a disinfectant as there is: http://www.michaelandjudystouffer.com/judy/articles/vinegar.htm
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: roaddog]
#15506585 - 12/12/11 06:58 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just for you to know, I sprayed vinegar20%/bleach20%/water80% solution in my SAB and now my whole house is filled with disgusting smell.
You're saying I should do it every time when messing with my SAB?
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Vibration]
#15506632 - 12/12/11 07:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Vibration said: Just for you to know, I sprayed vinegar20%/bleach20%/water80% solution in my SAB and now my whole house is filled with disgusting smell.
You're saying I should do it every time when messing with my SAB?
Ha, Ha, you crack me up. I said 10% bleach, 10% vinegar and 80% water. You did 20% 20% 80% which is a 120% its supost to be 100%. Look just take a quart of water and add 4 tablespoons of bleach, and 4 table spoons of vinegar.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: roaddog]
#15506682 - 12/12/11 07:13 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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take a plastic drop cloth or tarp, use it to cut off a corner in your room, spray the hell out of it with lysol, thats your SAB. ..or you can use a one man tent in your house? I have used the first method in the past, I cut a corner of my room off with plastic and did open air nocs in there and never got a contamination. I no longer do that though, it was overkill for me.
some people dont even pasteurize their coir. I do for about 30min. I find it pretty hard to get coir contaminated but maybe ive just been lucky..
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: roaddog]
#15508847 - 12/13/11 04:39 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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roaddog said: Ha, Ha, you crack me up. I said 10% bleach, 10% vinegar and 80% water. You did 20% 20% 80% which is a 120% its supost to be 100%. Look just take a quart of water and add 4 tablespoons of bleach, and 4 table spoons of vinegar.
My bad
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Vibration]
#15508965 - 12/13/11 05:55 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bad spawn. Without a doubt, bad spawn. Are you shooting LC? That's your problem if so. Agar to grain is the way to go- agar work is cheaper and easier than it looks, check out Professor Pinhead's No-pour TEk for one method.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Doc_T]
#15509541 - 12/13/11 09:42 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Doc_T said: Bad spawn. Without a doubt, bad spawn. Are you shooting LC? That's your problem if so. Agar to grain is the way to go- agar work is cheaper and easier than it looks, check out Professor Pinhead's No-pour TEk for one method.
:/ Yes, I've used Spore to LC as an innoculant.. and I've used the same innoculant to fruit over 60 BRF cakes. Even now, at the very moment 4 cakes are pinning.
But I've started doing G2G transfers. I already have 22 new jars that will be soon ready to use. Should I just dump them??.. Why are you so sure it's my spawn, not pasteurization?
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Vibration]
#15509721 - 12/13/11 10:26 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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G2g is the easiest way to get dirty spawn. Docs right most likely your spawn is junk. You might have done 100 brf cakes from your lc, but have you inoculated a new brf since your string of contams, I bet your lc is dirty, one time with a slip up filling a syringe and the whole lc is shit . I use isolated turbinado lcs exclusively for a plethra of reasons which we can save for another thread, BUT. I also blow threw quite a few brf test jars. If you do bags lcs are the way to go, faster easier and more error proof, as long you have a certified clean lc.
In short work with a new lc, while you validate the cleaness of lc in question, you should always work with many lc's. Putting all your eggs in one basket is silly.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Vibration]
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Dudester67 said: Are you keeping a few jars aside as "controls" to see if they also contam?
Yes, I've done that. I have not had contamination in my grain jars. They are healthy. I've made G2G transfers too.
I've also fruited about 60 BRF cakes with the same innoculant.
Could you please show us some pictures of your cakes.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: kdmmontana]
#15768089 - 02/06/12 12:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes.
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Vibration said: Day 4 in fruiting conditions
First tub.



Second tub.



Third tub (double-stacked)


.. and some pics of cool mushrooms forming in the jars (which are dunked now)





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Vibration said: All 37 cakes are now divided between 4 different shotgun tubs and fruiting.
Day 6 in fruiting conditions
First tub.




First mushroom



Third tub.



I wanna see what comes out of that one!

How should I harvest? Just pick the ones which have opened (broken veil) or pick at once?
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Vibration said: Ok, I will pick every shroom right after veil has broken.
17,17g

16,30g

Last one is really beautiful.
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Vibration said: Day 7 in fruiting conditions

26,80g - The biggest so far.




Nice way to fix a mushroom. It was hanging upside down before.

And these are actually growing upside down 


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Here's the thread: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14752594/page/2/fpart/1/vc/1
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Vibration]
#15768385 - 02/06/12 01:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Freakin Sweet! 
I cant believe...you know..I took all of these cakes..and I you know fruited them..and..*buuuzzzz*..hold on guys... *opens door*...MMMBOP...MMMBOP..
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Dudester67]
#15768427 - 02/06/12 01:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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sterile coir will mold, seen it happen many times.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: LucidLife FRO us]
#15768877 - 02/06/12 03:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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That song is awkward. Puts a smile on my face though. Just real awkward..
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Vibration] 1
#15768980 - 02/06/12 03:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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First, excellent looking fruits man!
Second DO NOT mix bleach and vinegar. This is super-basic. Bleach is a base, vinegar is an acid, the two neutralize each other and liberate chlorine gas, which is toxic! That nasty smell? Probably chlorine. Don't do it.
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Re: I will make a SAB and I'm going to fit myself in. [Re: Vibration]
#15769124 - 02/06/12 04:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Vibration said: That song is awkward. Puts a smile on my face though. Just real awkward..
Brings back memories...
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