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OfflineAdamist
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Recording: Digital vs Tapes?
    #1550208 - 05/15/03 05:36 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Okay, so I want to record the music coming out of me. I found a site called http://www.wwbw.com/ that has some neat items.

My question is, should I go for the less expensive tape-based 4/8-tracks, or the digital ones? Is there a noticeable difference? I am a beginner with recording music...

Some of the digital ones, like the VF-80 8-Track Digital Recorder come with their own CD burners, but it's like a $300 upgrade. Do you think it's worth it?

Keep in mind that my budget consists of around 700 bucks, max. (I'm going to choose the Play Now option and pay em back eventually) :wink: 


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Re: Recording: Digital vs Tapes? [Re: Adamist]
    #1554632 - 05/16/03 06:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I've had a 4-track for years, and still use it alot.
Cost very little, around ?150 about 10 years ago.
Quick and easy to get things down onto.
Using your pc to record is easy too, and nowadays my 4-track spends most of it's time plugged into the line in of my soundcard.
Means you can burn cds if you have a burner, convert to mp3, "digitally remaster" (usually this means "fuck up"), add more tracks and vst synths and all that.


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Re: Recording: Digital vs Tapes? [Re: Scvotto_Turellskey]
    #1554911 - 05/16/03 09:20 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

If you have a pc with a stereo soundcard and a CD burner then avoid anything that has a built in CD burner, you'll be wasting your money. You can record your mix onto your computer and get a mix of equal quality.

As for digital vs analogue.. if you can afford digital then go with that. The quality will be better and you will get more options in terms of editing your sound once it's been recorded. If you can afford an 8 track digital then go for that, otherwise 4 track is ok. if you're talking digital then chances are it will be at least 8 track anyway.

If i were you, I'd go for either the Tascam 788 Digital Portastudio, or the Zoom MRS1266 Digital Recording Workstation if you can afford it. Bear in mind that in order to record your music you may need a good microphone (Shure SM58 would probably do) and some decent headphones.


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Re: Recording: Digital vs Tapes? [Re: Rob_K]
    #1555012 - 05/16/03 10:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Sweet, thanks alot for the advice. I'm still in the process of deciding, but now at least I won't spend a shit load of $$$ on one with a built-in burner...


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Re: Recording: Digital vs Tapes? [Re: Adamist]
    #1555018 - 05/16/03 10:34 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

awesome..! can't wait to hear your music :smile:


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Re: Recording: Digital vs Tapes? [Re: Smack31]
    #1555698 - 05/17/03 04:37 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks alot for the advice and encouragement everyone. I've narrowed it down to either the  KORG PXR4 or the  Fostex MR8 , both only $300. I am not very experienced in the recording world yet, so could someone tell me which of these is better for me? I have a kawai k-1 synth and a zoom rythmtrak drum machine as well as a set of tabla drums which I plan on micing up to the recorder... Since the recorders are only $300 I'm going to get a nice microphone as well... Oh yeah, I have an average computer with a CD burner on it... no programs as of yet but I'm planning on getting a few MIDI programs so that I can change the sounds of my synth... Please respond ASAP, because I want to get this thing as soon as possible. I absolutely must start recording some music, as my drum machine's memory is already full.  :frown:

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Re: Recording: Digital vs Tapes? [Re: Adamist]
    #1555705 - 05/17/03 04:53 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

if you already have a computer, you should use it as your multi-track...
all you need is an audio interface (M Audio 24/96 4in/4out Digital S/PDIF in/out $160)
and use a Digital Audio Workstation like Pro Tools, Logic, or Cubase to do all your mixing.
the Digital Signal Processors that work as plug-ins are a blast; and editing is a breeze.

i use Mark of the Unicorn?s DP4:










if you would like real faders, you could get an automated control surface...






it?s Sweeeet...

















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Re: Recording: Digital vs Tapes? [Re: Middleman]
    #1555717 - 05/17/03 05:32 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

The only problem with that is that I'm extremely bad with computers... I can only do pretty simple tasks, I'm not very good with complex programs and such... Unless someone very knowledgeable sits down and teaches me how to use it... I hate instruction manuals and all that shit. I need someone to SHOW me how to work it... I wish I could like follow Peter Gabriel around for a few weeks..  :wink:


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Re: Recording: Digital vs Tapes? [Re: Adamist]
    #1556612 - 05/17/03 07:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You could try downloading a free (shareware) recording suite like " n-track ", it was the first pc based recording software I ever used, and it's pretty simple!
Probably find it thru google.
If you have a mic plugged into the mic jack on any soundcard you can start straight away!
Searching kazaa or shareaza could get you a pirate copy of cubase or some of the newer commercial software suites, but that would be terribly notti.
They're all pretty much the same, and easy enough to use.


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Re: Recording: Digital vs Tapes? [Re: Adamist]
    #1559415 - 05/19/03 06:12 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Here is what you do,you get you a cheap digital 4 track,like a Zoom mrs-4,like $200


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Re: Recording: Digital vs Tapes? [Re: Anonymous]
    #1559597 - 05/19/03 10:50 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the advice everyone. I ended up getting the Korg PXR 4, along with an AudioTechnica mic and a Yamaha USB/MIDI conversion cable. It all came out to around $400. I hope I'm getting my money's worth.... :wink:


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