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Anonymous #1

Re: reieving $ and shipping annonymously [Re: deladude]
    #15522022 - 12/15/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

losing money


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Re: reieving $ and shipping annonymously [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #15522164 - 12/15/11 05:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

so any suggestions for an alternative to hushmail?


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Re: reieving $ and shipping annonymously [Re: deladude] * 1
    #15522895 - 12/15/11 07:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

depending if your dealing with the same people all the time you can discreetly purchase disposable phones with a fake ID. grow a beard and wear sunglasses when buying the phones, and mail the phones to your contacts and be sure the phones are only used between you and them and hidden when not being used:cop:


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Re: reieving $ and shipping annonymously [Re: deladude]
    #15525840 - 12/16/11 11:46 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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deladude said:
so any suggestions for an alternative to hushmail?




Safe-mail , countermail , lavabit or email.ru

Learn how to use pgp its not that hard and will give you a lot more Security.


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Re: reieving $ and shipping annonymously [Re: SolverT]
    #15533896 - 12/18/11 08:13 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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deladude said:
so any suggestions for an alternative to hushmail?




Safe-mail , countermail , lavabit or email.ru

Learn how to use pgp its not that hard and will give you a lot more Security.




Very cool and thanks for the help but whats pgp?


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Re: reieving $ and shipping annonymously [Re: deladude]
    #15534393 - 12/18/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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SolverT said:
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deladude said:
so any suggestions for an alternative to hushmail?




Safe-mail , countermail , lavabit or email.ru

Learn how to use pgp its not that hard and will give you a lot more Security.




Very cool and thanks for the help but whats pgp?





http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy



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Anonymous #4

Re: reieving $ and shipping annonymously [Re: SolverT]
    #15537214 - 12/18/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Dont use hushmail they work with the feds.

Use a random russian email provider and pgp

Bitcoin , liberty reserve or pecunix for payments

Use tails though a virtual machine for all your activies



That all seems a little over the top to me.
Whatabout just hushmailing a privnote and using moneygrams through a proxy(as in having a third party receive and cash then the receiver pays them a few bucks for their trouble) for payments?




Nothing is over the top when it comes to your personal freedom.




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Anonymous #5

Re: reieving $ and shipping annonymously [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #15572843 - 12/26/11 03:35 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

3 ways I can think of to receive funds anonymously.
#1. Best bet is bitcoins. Tumbling services are available to help hide the origin in case you receive some that are being watched (and they are easy to watch) to see where/who cashes them out. And they can be exchanged for pecunix (gold backed decentralized currency) once tumbled to offer some stability, as bitcoins value are notoriously unstable.
#2. Pecunix. Is a currency which increases and decreases in value right along side gold. It answers to no nations government (though i'm sure international laws apply to it). And most importantly you can set up accounts with relative ease.
#3. Send a minion to pick up the cash from WU and hope you paid him well enough that he doesn't sing like a bird when the heat catches on eventually (if your contemplating sending illegal goods, which is ill advised, and I hope I'm answering a question raised from hypothetical interest.)

Green dot will work for a while, however I have read (not sure how reliable the sources were) of them freezing accounts that were frequently depositing funds from cards purchased all over the country. Plus you'd have to use someone else's info to set up the account, or leave a trail to yourself. Plus you'd need to order the green dot card to an address, since the card you initially get when you buy it at the store can't withdraw funds at an ATM.

Been reading that liberty reserve is acting weird at the moment, I'm not sure how reliable they would be.

I've seen advertisements from vendors that like anonymity which state thy use UKash, Dwolla, maybe some others (not even sure if i spelled those 2 correctly), I haven't looked into those myself so I cannot comment on their potential.

Bitcoin and Pecunix are the way to go from how things appear to me. Now, as for turning those into cash.... I've noticed vendors that have been doing it over long periods of time without getting caught. I have a couple ideas of how their doing it, but I cant know for sure since this is all information I gathered on hypothetical interest. Do some reading, hopefully I gave you a couple directions to look for the knowledge you seek. It will be a mess of a process to keep the money being cashed out from being tied to whatever transaction earned it, and you'd also be risking laundering charges.

As for shipping. Forget about shipping anything you can't drop in a random blue box, no reships, no tracking, no large parcels. Return address to a fake name, addressed to a random apartment complex with no apartment number. Follow all guide lines imposed by the postal service. Take your time and do a professional job assembling the packages. Change your packaging methods regularly. Don't develop habits that can lead curious parties to discover where/when your going to drop packs in the mail.

As for communicating with customers, I'd say e-mail only. I wouldn't advise communicating with anyone not using PGP/GPG. But its your choice whether you would care whether the customer values their own anonymity. Also don't check communications without tor.


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Anonymous #4

Re: reieving $ and shipping annonymously [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #15575695 - 12/26/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

^^^
man knows the truth

greendot will freeze accounts. that does happen. find other peoples info, one way or another. open multiple cards. split up the payments through different cards to make it look less sketchy. always get cash back, never use at atm.

and pidgin with otr plugin has been said to be even more secure then email with gpg/pgp. but either would work very well.

check email through tor, and route pidgin through tor.

like he said, blue boxes. never use same box over and over. spread it out.

cant check LR anymore with TOR because of the captcha which is why everyone switched back to pecunix.

being secure isnt the easiest way. but its the best way.


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