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how much water for straw sterilization
    #1548171 - 05/14/03 12:49 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

in jars


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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: fugu]
    #1548260 - 05/14/03 01:24 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

do i have to wait the straw for 1 night in water


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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: fugu]
    #1548273 - 05/14/03 01:30 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

You don?t want to sterilize straw, you want to pasteurize it.

Read www.shroomery.org/grow

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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: Anno]
    #1548277 - 05/14/03 01:33 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

no i want to sterilize

HOW


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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: fugu]
    #1548285 - 05/14/03 01:39 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

you want to sterilise, why?


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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: shirley knott]
    #1548297 - 05/14/03 01:45 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

candy termometre mother ..city house ...problems....i want to try straw


thats all need help thanks


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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: fugu]
    #1548320 - 05/14/03 01:55 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

You don't want to sterilize you want to pasteurize. Get a large pot and fill it up with water let the water boil for about 10 minutes. Once the water has cooled to 180-165 degrees F add your straw to the now cooler water. Leave the straw fully submersed in the water for an hour maintaining the 160-180 temp range. Vola you have pasteurized straw.

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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: dilleo27]
    #1548326 - 05/14/03 01:57 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

so i first boil it for 10 min.and then sterilise in jars

for 60 min ok?


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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: fugu]
    #1548333 - 05/14/03 01:59 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Do not put the straw in jars. You can put the srtaw in an old pillowcase or some other sturdy bag. The reason for boiling the water briefly is to sterilize the tap water further I'm not sure if it's really necessary but I know it can't hurt as long as you wait for it to cool into the given temp range.

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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: dilleo27]
    #1548336 - 05/14/03 02:01 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

thanks for the help 27

hey shirley


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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: fugu]
    #1548343 - 05/14/03 02:04 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

whatever dood :smile:

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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: fugu]
    #1548345 - 05/14/03 02:04 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

pasteurising is less than boiling, fugu.
pasteurising is around 75C, or 160-170F
pasteurising it dunking the straw and/or poo, in a cloth bag, in a big pot of hot but not boiling water, for an hour or so.

then drain it well, let it cool, and mix in the broken cake / broken grain.
then wait until it all goes white.
then either fruit it straightaway, or (better) add a casing layer and let this be hrown into before fruiting.

good luck, fugu. don't boil it, or sterilise it, or it'll get infected really easily. :laugh:


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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: shirley knott]
    #1548360 - 05/14/03 02:09 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

so ok i boil them 1o min let it sit and drain well and pc it 1 hour at 15 pci.and colonn it .i will decide the layer later ...i like your pics


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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: fugu]
    #1548362 - 05/14/03 02:10 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

don't boil.


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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: shirley knott]
    #1548365 - 05/14/03 02:12 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

so how much water do i have to put in jars .and why i don t boil


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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: fugu] * 1
    #1548366 - 05/14/03 02:13 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

someone else can take over. i give up.
read the faqs, fugu, there's only so much we can do for you otherwise.


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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: shirley knott]
    #1548367 - 05/14/03 02:14 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

your wellcome


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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: fugu] * 1
    #1548376 - 05/14/03 02:17 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Wow...

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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: Perk]
    #1548382 - 05/14/03 02:19 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

sex me up then


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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: fugu]
    #1687572 - 07/05/03 06:25 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms- Stamets
"Above this temperature plateau(200 degrees), noncompetitive, beneficial organisms are killed, and the substrait becomes an open habitatfor many competitors that would otherwise be held in abeyance." He also says "200 degrees plus is a temperature above which disaster awaits."

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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: creekfarmer]
    #1687591 - 07/05/03 07:08 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

I have to smile each time you post something new, Fugu. Thanks for entertaining me.


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Re: how much water for straw sterilization [Re: Ainasko]
    #1687719 - 07/05/03 09:29 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

thanks ai.
i really wish that my loser girlfriend looks like you.
everytime in shroomery when i see your posts around  i wish this.
but it seems imposibble.
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