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Psi Cyan/Azzie hunting - Is Altitude important?
    #15440990 - 11/29/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

So I'm from South west Germany and I'm trying to find some Psi Cyans or Azures in the woods but the fuckers won't come out^^
I've been wondering where I would have success, like is altitude important? I read that air pressure influences the growth of microorganisms, probably providing a certain flora for mushrooms.
so I wondered what altitudes did others find them at???

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Re: Psi Cyan/Azzie hunting - Is Altitude important? [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984]
    #15441217 - 11/29/11 05:44 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Closer to sea level by the coast I'm guessing would be good. Look in urban environments like parks woodchip trails and sides of rich businesses and stuff like that in towns/cities. They don't usually grow in the wild and almost never in the woods.


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Re: Psi Cyan/Azzie hunting - Is Altitude important? [Re: OregonChronic]
    #15442195 - 11/29/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

altitude only usefull if u want to start hunting earlier in the season .. ie altitude increases rainfall and has generally lower temperatures .. but if its peak season now and u know they grown locally .. then wood chip beds in parks and gardens is where u should keep ur eye


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Re: Psi Cyan/Azzie hunting - Is Altitude important? [Re: Jimlim]
    #15448518 - 12/01/11 07:02 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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OregonChronic said:
Closer to sea level by the coast I'm guessing would be good. Look in urban environments like parks woodchip trails and sides of rich businesses and stuff like that in towns/cities. They don't usually grow in the wild and almost never in the woods.



Ok, I'm not close to any coast except the river Rhein but I got Industry all around^^

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altitude only usefull if u want to start hunting earlier in the season .. ie altitude increases rainfall and has generally lower temperatures .. but if its peak season now and u know they grown locally .. then wood chip beds in parks and gardens is where u should keep ur eye




Well I don't have a clue about peak season. We have quite a foggy november with few rain down here. Fog every night and almost no rain and temperatures go near the freezing point from time to time.
My altitude is like 200m above NN.


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Re: Psi Cyan/Azzie hunting - Is Altitude important? [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984]
    #15448783 - 12/01/11 09:10 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

temperature and rainfaill is key .... altitude plays a part with the start of the season .. ie earlier the higher u go .. but also finishes sooner as higher altitudes get frosts faster!

here in the UK we are nearing the end of the season waiting for the very first frosts to wipe it all out and stick everything on hold till next year

so if u havnt had super hard frosts over by you (im guessing ur northern hemisphere) then get searching!

more rain the better (searching for wood lovers a week after a super hard down pour over a few days sounds a good start!)

temperatures between 1-4C and 12-16c are ideal ... above or below those its either too warm or too cold!

there was a guy on the ozzy mushroom thread (Msanchez?) last year who managed to pick subs (similar wood loving species to azures/cyans) 1 month earlier than anyone else managed to get them

just because he was willing to venture far up the altitudes of the table top mountains and get the right conditions for fruiting before the rest of us near sea level even got a look in

hope this helps

id say season is still in full swing if u havnt had a hard frost as the wood lovers are a late autumn(oct/nov) / (Dec) beginning of winter fruit.. and also read reports of azzies still growing after snow!


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Re: Psi Cyan/Azzie hunting - Is Altitude important? [Re: OregonChronic]
    #15448805 - 12/01/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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OregonChronic said:
Closer to sea level by the coast I'm guessing would be good. Look in urban environments like parks woodchip trails and sides of rich businesses and stuff like that in towns/cities. They don't usually grow in the wild and almost never in the woods.




almost never in the woods, but I am certain that I have seen a pic of gigantic cyan patches in the woods in Germany.


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Re: Psi Cyan/Azzie hunting - Is Altitude important? [Re: Jimlim]
    #15449770 - 12/01/11 02:07 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I guess by subs you mean subbalteatus? I thought they have a low concentration... well never mind :smile: ok. good to know.


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Re: Psi Cyan/Azzie hunting - Is Altitude important? [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984]
    #15450183 - 12/01/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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sof4r0ckeRs1984 said:
I guess by subs you mean subbalteatus? I thought they have a low concentration... well never mind :smile: ok. good to know.




He means

Psilocybe subaeruginosa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_subaeruginosa


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Re: Psi Cyan/Azzie hunting - Is Altitude important? [Re: Inconspicuous]
    #15451898 - 12/01/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

sof4r0ckeRs1984 said:
I guess by subs you mean subbalteatus? I thought they have a low concentration... well never mind :smile: ok. good to know.




He means

Psilocybe subaeruginosa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_subaeruginosa




correct :super:


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Re: Psi Cyan/Azzie hunting - Is Altitude important? [Re: Jimlim]
    #15452173 - 12/01/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Here in the puget sound basin, we have had a messed up season weather wise. I have many hypothesise regarding altitude and barometric pressure. This season the only spots of mine that produced healthy robust fruits were all well above sea level. The few spots down low that fruited were pathetic at best, both in quality of fruits and patch density. In a "normal" season with a more average fall weather pattern I dont think I would have seen such a discrepancy in fruiting patterns between elevations. I will attempt to further my hypothesis in coming seasons. So take what you want from that but 400-800 ft + was the comfort zone  this season out here. Got the spot I posted today that was covered in mature fruits the beginning of october and has several hundred pins right now, it sits right in the comfort zone .

Even in our spore coated incubator of a state I rarely find wild cyans in the forest. It happens but I have usually found only small loosely grouped fruitings which are usually really tough to spot. They do share a symbiotic relationship with a variety of plant life. And they seem to have some flora they dont like. I foud them in 1996 and it took untill about 2003 untill I had a good idea of where to look to produce the desired results with consistency .

If i were visiting a area on a vacation and wanted to do some hunting I would hop on google earth, find habitat and cross reference with weatherunderground to find micro climates. Look up any indicator species in those areas and then go slay up. And by slay up I mean take lots of pretty pictures of course...hehehe...


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Re: Psi Cyan/Azzie hunting - Is Altitude important? [Re: Mulch Sausage]
    #15452245 - 12/01/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

you should be hunting for Psilocybe serbica/bohemica, not someones cultivated azurescen beds!!
Psilocybe serbica/bohemica is native active of your area you would find in forests. it is somewhat rare but not enough people search for them there as germany ( i just watched a nature show on germany last night! :smile: ) looks fucking sweet for P semilanceata so i am sure people hunt them the most!!

do some research and when you find them send out prints!!:wink:


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Re: Psi Cyan/Azzie hunting - Is Altitude important? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #15454126 - 12/02/11 10:54 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I did notice tons of mulched rose gardens and other prime habitat at many of the castles I toured when I visited Germany.


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Re: Psi Cyan/Azzie hunting - Is Altitude important? [Re: Mulch Sausage]
    #15454300 - 12/02/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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one monkey said:
I did notice tons of mulched rose gardens and other prime habitat at many of the castles I toured when I visited Germany.




nice! it does look like a prime country for all kinds of Psilocybes!


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