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WBS/Coir monotub fruting extremely slow
    #15449116 - 12/01/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Long time lurker here who has seem to hit a snag with this monotub. I'll upload pics in a little bit, but the issue is verrrrrry slow fruiting. I've done many monotubs before and had amazing results, the only thing different about this one is I chose to go uncased. It's now exactly 2 weeks into fruiting and I have many, many knots and a few pins here and there. The few pins that are growing have been the same size for 2-3 days now. Regular fanning, misting and a 12/12 light cycle with 100% RH. Only factor that is different this time is the temps have been getting as low as 60 at some points, but mainly 65-70.

I suspect it to be my flippity-floppity temperatures, anyone have some input?

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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruting extremely slow [Re: Fluffhead]
    #15449126 - 12/01/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Regular fanning, misting????

Monotubs are supposed to be left alone. Thats their main purpose...


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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruting extremely slow [Re: Fluffhead]
    #15449130 - 12/01/11 11:03 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

if the pins haven't grown in 3 days they have aborted. It may be because the temp. dipped too low, or a number of other factors

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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruting extremely slow [Re: SomeGuy]
    #15449171 - 12/01/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

During primordia formation RH needs to be very close to 100% if not 100%, but when the actual mushrooms are growing you want the RH a little lower around 85-90%

What color are the caps on the mushrooms that are growing so slow?  If they are turning purple/dark colored they have definitely aborted.


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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruting extremely slow [Re: IamYou]
    #15449324 - 12/01/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, regular fanning and misting when needed. I've done it this way every time with no problems.

Caps are regular golden brown color.

I'm just chalking it up to the temp at this point as I've been searching the forums for hours now. I'm still going to post a pic though.

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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruting extremely slow [Re: blazter]
    #15449346 - 12/01/11 12:06 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Regular fanning, misting????

Monotubs are supposed to be left alone. Thats their main purpose...



FAE and proper humidity is crucial.


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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruting extremely slow [Re: Fluffhead]
    #15449539 - 12/01/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Here's a picture with the decent sized pins circled, many smaller ones throughout that you can't see in this crappy picture. As I said before, the only thing I'm doing differently then previous monotubs is that I didn't case. Temps can get in the low 60's but it's usually 65-75. I'm just stumped at this point.


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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruting extremely slow [Re: Fluffhead]
    #15449555 - 12/01/11 12:59 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

seems heavily overlaid:shrug:whats going on in that top left corner? it doesn't look right

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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruting extremely slow [Re: SomeGuy]
    #15449574 - 12/01/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think it's overlay, the flash just makes it look weird. The whooooole surface is knotted, but they kind of just never turned into fruit bodies. Top left and right corners are just not as densely colonized. No odd smells, no signs of any cobweb, trich, anything.

Much too late to attempt a casing? I just don't get why all I've read is that "Cubensis don't need a casing", then the one time I fruit without one it ends up like this. Something doesn't add up.

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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruting extremely slow [Re: IamYou]
    #15449717 - 12/01/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Regular fanning, misting????

Monotubs are supposed to be left alone. Thats their main purpose...



FAE and proper humidity is crucial.




Monotubs maintain their optimal FAE and Humidity on their own. I am doing my first monotub but I have read alot about it.


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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruting extremely slow [Re: Fluffhead]
    #15450590 - 12/01/11 05:05 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Moved the tub to another spot with a tub that's about to be done colonizing. I'll post an update in the next few days when I see what happens.

This spot is constant 70-75 as opposed to dipping into the low 60s high 50s some times.

Edited by Fluffhead (12/01/11 05:06 PM)

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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruting extremely slow [Re: blazter]
    #15450724 - 12/01/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Monotubs are supposed to be left alone. Thats their main purpose...



Quote:

blazter said:
Monotubs maintain their optimal FAE and Humidity on their own. I am doing my first monotub but I have read alot about it.




blazter, I wish you luck on your first monotub but please understand that a monotub does not maintain optimal FAE, not even close.  Regardless of the hole configuration you choose for your tub (whether it's the 2-inch holes stuffed w/ polyfill, or shotgun-style 1/4inch holes, or no holes at all), you will want to manually fan your monotub several times per day for best results.

You are certainly free to neglect your tub just like anyone can neglect any fruiting chamber and still get results (as P. cubensis being a very CO2 tolerant species), but consistent and thorough air exchanges via fanning will improve your grow enormously.

When people write that the "purpose of a monotub is to neglect it," they sort of have a misunderstanding of the basics.  After colonization a monotub is just a fruiting chamber, and the mycelium has the same requirements that it would in any fruiting chamber.  If anything, a monotub requires more fanning than a shotgun terrerium would.  I hope you're following me...!  Anyway, good luck.

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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruting extremely slow [Re: Dudester67]
    #15450886 - 12/01/11 06:08 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

only 2 holes?

lack of fresh air and low temps and over misting.


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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruting extremely slow [Re: Dudester67]
    #15451149 - 12/01/11 06:50 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I tought the main purpose of the montubs were that they are maintance-free :S maybe I read wrong information??? I saw that the site have a lot of incorrect info...


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    #15451191 - 12/01/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruting extremely slow [Re: flameclown]
    #15454563 - 12/02/11 01:23 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

It has been less than 24 hours since moving to a warmer spot and there are already many more pins. Should I pick the 2 guys who are about mid grown and just leave all the pins or is it alright to leave the 2 bigger guys?

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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruting extremely slow [Re: Fluffhead]
    #15454595 - 12/02/11 01:31 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

it's a matter of preference, and won't make much difference either way

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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruting extremely slow [Re: Dudester67]
    #15454682 - 12/02/11 01:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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blazter, I wish you luck on your first monotub but please understand that a monotub does not maintain optimal FAE, not even close.  Regardless of the hole configuration you choose for your tub (whether it's the 2-inch holes stuffed w/ polyfill, or shotgun-style 1/4inch holes, or no holes at all), you will want to manually fan your monotub several times per day for best results.

You are certainly free to neglect your tub just like anyone can neglect any fruiting chamber and still get results (as P. cubensis being a very CO2 tolerant species), but consistent and thorough air exchanges via fanning will improve your grow enormously.

When people write that the "purpose of a monotub is to neglect it," they sort of have a misunderstanding of the basics.  After colonization a monotub is just a fruiting chamber, and the mycelium has the same requirements that it would in any fruiting chamber.  If anything, a monotub requires more fanning than a shotgun terrerium would.  I hope you're following me...!  Anyway, good luck.




thank you, my thoughts exactly


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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruiting extremely slow [Re: IamYou]
    #15454881 - 12/02/11 02:50 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

It was too cold. Your tubs won't fruit in 60 degrees . 70 to 75 is great. Pick your fruits when you desire. I can guarantee  that since you moved the tub into a warmer area things will pick up.  :goodluck:

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Re: WBS/Coir monotub fruiting extremely slow [Re: redcat]
    #22175075 - 09/01/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nice info
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It was too cold. Your tubs won't fruit in 60 degrees . 70 to 75 is great. Pick your fruits when you desire. I can guarantee  that since you moved the tub into a warmer area things will pick up.  :goodluck:



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