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dingofling
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Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder?
#15445271 - 11/30/11 02:19 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Amanita muscaria is a legal mushroom in the US, ive always been interested in trying it so i ordered a good amount of Amanita muscaria Powder. Whats the best way to ingest it to get the effects and if you're experienced with this type of mushroom how much did you take and how was it for you?
ive read it must be soaked in alcohol for 6 hours, but then other sources say it doesn't matter, but i wana do it right.
Thanks!
Edited by dingofling (11/30/11 02:20 PM)
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: dingofling]
#15445452 - 11/30/11 02:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Be sure to report back after you do it. I have read a couple of crazy and fucked up stories on erowid about the mario mushrooms. Sounds like a deliriant lol. Ive always been curious about these to but I don't have the guts to try them. And im DOWN for drugs but these just sound scary lol.
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Why not just smoke the power, its like getting high on weed.
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: qmarkball]
#15445492 - 11/30/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I rather not smoke it idk if that even works. Im wondering if boiling water and just adding it to the water and drinking the entire thing will work its powder so its already dried. I cant find anythig on the best way to take the powder
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: dingofling]
#15445855 - 11/30/11 04:19 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Did you decarboxylate the Ibotenic Acid yet? If you did, just eat the stuff.
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: Meteloides]
#15445898 - 11/30/11 04:27 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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CounterCulturest said: Be sure to report back after you do it. I have read a couple of crazy and fucked up stories on erowid about the mario mushrooms. Sounds like a deliriant lol. Ive always been curious about these to but I don't have the guts to try them. And im DOWN for drugs but these just sound scary lol.
yes it's a delierant/psychedelic
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qmarkball said: Why not just smoke the power, its like getting high on weed.
no. just no.
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dingofling said: I rather not smoke it idk if that even works. Im wondering if boiling water and just adding it to the water and drinking the entire thing will work its powder so its already dried. I cant find anythig on the best way to take the powder
make tea. clicky link in my signature
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Meteloides said: Did you decarboxylate the Ibotenic Acid yet? If you did, just eat the stuff.
ibotenic acid adds an entire element of fuck into the equasion.
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: Salomon]
#15445938 - 11/30/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Meteloides said: Did you decarboxylate the Ibotenic Acid yet? If you did, just eat the stuff.
ibotenic acid adds an entire element of fuck into the equasion.
Indeed it does. In fact, there seems to be one thing in common with almost all of the negative trip reports about Amanita Muscaria, and that is the failure to properly prepare them. Ibotenic Acid decarboxylates into Muscimol when heated at the correct temperature. Therefore removing a lot of the fuckery.
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: Salomon]
#15446423 - 11/30/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Salomon said:
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CounterCulturest said: Be sure to report back after you do it. I have read a couple of crazy and fucked up stories on erowid about the mario mushrooms. Sounds like a deliriant lol. Ive always been curious about these to but I don't have the guts to try them. And im DOWN for drugs but these just sound scary lol.
yes it's a delierant/psychedelic
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qmarkball said: Why not just smoke the power, its like getting high on weed.
no. just no.
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dingofling said: I rather not smoke it idk if that even works. Im wondering if boiling water and just adding it to the water and drinking the entire thing will work its powder so its already dried. I cant find anythig on the best way to take the powder
make tea. clicky link in my signature
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Meteloides said: Did you decarboxylate the Ibotenic Acid yet? If you did, just eat the stuff.
ibotenic acid adds an entire element of fuck into the equasion.
i ordered http://www.arenaethnobotanicals.com/amanita-muscaria-powder-p-134.html that one.
Does all the extracting and such need to be done? your guide was great but if i dont need to do all those steps and wait that long would just adding hot water to the powder work?
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: dingofling]
#15446433 - 11/30/11 06:19 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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dingofling said:
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Salomon said:
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CounterCulturest said: Be sure to report back after you do it. I have read a couple of crazy and fucked up stories on erowid about the mario mushrooms. Sounds like a deliriant lol. Ive always been curious about these to but I don't have the guts to try them. And im DOWN for drugs but these just sound scary lol.
yes it's a delierant/psychedelic
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qmarkball said: Why not just smoke the power, its like getting high on weed.
no. just no.
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dingofling said: I rather not smoke it idk if that even works. Im wondering if boiling water and just adding it to the water and drinking the entire thing will work its powder so its already dried. I cant find anythig on the best way to take the powder
make tea. clicky link in my signature
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Meteloides said: Did you decarboxylate the Ibotenic Acid yet? If you did, just eat the stuff.
ibotenic acid adds an entire element of fuck into the equasion.
i ordered http://www.arenaethnobotanicals.com/amanita-muscaria-powder-p-134.html that one.
Does all the extracting and such need to be done? your guide was great but if i dont need to do all those steps and wait that long would just adding hot water to the powder work?
I don't think extraction is necessary to get effects from them. It might help but I have never consumed extraction so I am unqualified to speak on that. However, most vendors fan-dry their Amanitas. So you will most likely have to do the heat preparation yourself. I don't think adding hot water will help much.
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: Meteloides]
#15446451 - 11/30/11 06:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Meteloides said:
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dingofling said:
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Salomon said:
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CounterCulturest said: Be sure to report back after you do it. I have read a couple of crazy and fucked up stories on erowid about the mario mushrooms. Sounds like a deliriant lol. Ive always been curious about these to but I don't have the guts to try them. And im DOWN for drugs but these just sound scary lol.
yes it's a delierant/psychedelic
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qmarkball said: Why not just smoke the power, its like getting high on weed.
no. just no.
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dingofling said: I rather not smoke it idk if that even works. Im wondering if boiling water and just adding it to the water and drinking the entire thing will work its powder so its already dried. I cant find anythig on the best way to take the powder
make tea. clicky link in my signature
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Meteloides said: Did you decarboxylate the Ibotenic Acid yet? If you did, just eat the stuff.
ibotenic acid adds an entire element of fuck into the equasion.
i ordered http://www.arenaethnobotanicals.com/amanita-muscaria-powder-p-134.html that one.
Does all the extracting and such need to be done? your guide was great but if i dont need to do all those steps and wait that long would just adding hot water to the powder work?
I don't think extraction is necessary to get effects from them. It might help but I have never consumed extraction so I am unqualified to speak on that. However, most vendors fan-dry their Amanitas. So you will most likely have to do the heat preparation yourself. I don't think adding hot water will help much.
and without the heat prep the nausea and bad side effects will be increased? hmmm... maybe ill just keep it in hot water for like an hour then chug. i bought 2 ounces of it im going to start slow, and take up to an ounce the first time and see how that goes if it goes well ill do the other ounce of it.
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: dingofling]
#15446466 - 11/30/11 06:27 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Without heating to approximately 190F for 30-60 minutes, the nausea and negative side effects will be dominant. Try and reduce the final amount of liquid to as little as possible, because it tastes absolutely vile. And one ounce is a very high dose. The usual starting dose for Amanitas are 5-8 grams. I strongly recommend starting on the lower end because potency varies so wildly between batches.
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: dingofling]
#15446471 - 11/30/11 06:27 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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dingofling said: i ordered http://www.arenaethnobotanicals.com/amanita-muscaria-powder-p-134.html that one.
Does all the extracting and such need to be done? your guide was great but if i dont need to do all those steps and wait that long would just adding hot water to the powder work?
well yea, since it's already powder, all you would have to do is steep it in slightly lesss than boiling water and then strain out the left over fruitbody.
then drank it up, or evap out the water and eat the left over tar.
i mean it's alot easier, to me, than consuming the actuial toadstool.
but you could do it anyway you want to.
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: Meteloides]
#15446481 - 11/30/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Meteloides said: Without heating to approximately 190F for 30-60 minutes, the nausea and negative side effects will be dominant. Try and reduce the final amount of liquid to as little as possible, because it tastes absolutely vile. And one ounce is a very high dose. The usual starting dose for Amanitas are 5-8 grams. I strongly recommend starting on the lower end because potency varies so wildly between batches.
also this^
it tastes worse than almost anything as a liquid, which is why i like to take the extra time to evap it down
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: Salomon]
#15447608 - 11/30/11 10:53 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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dont order it get fresh stuff from trust people or yourself if your worthy of that. way better more effective. buying stuff is usually crap and tainted
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: smiley69]
#15448499 - 12/01/11 06:49 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can download a book explaining how to prepare it here... http://www.ambrosiasociety.org/
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: fantasticfungus]
#15450800 - 12/01/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have heard steeping dried powder in room temperature milk for several hours and then drinking (after a rough strain to get out big chunks) works better than water extraction.
Seems this mimicks a native method involving reindeer milk.
Maybe the powder would blend well into a milkshake?
Blessings.
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: flickedbic]
#15451006 - 12/01/11 06:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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flickedbic said: I have heard steeping dried powder in room temperature milk for several hours and then drinking (after a rough strain to get out big chunks) works better than water extraction.
Seems this mimicks a native method involving reindeer milk.
Maybe the powder would blend well into a milkshake?
Blessings.
I actually have had success blending ground amanita into a milkshake. Definitely made it easier to ingest. There was slight potency loss, but nothing too significant.
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: MadMusher]
#15451172 - 12/01/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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The best way to take aminita powder is to not take aminita powder.
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: underfliptown]
#15451192 - 12/01/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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underfliptown said: The best way to take aminita powder is to not take aminita powder.

Bad experience?
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: Meteloides]
#15451203 - 12/01/11 06:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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lol no just everything i have read about it seems sketchy. It's a dellirient, there doesnt seem to be much to gain there. Having said that I have heard good things about low to moderate doses.
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Meteloides
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: underfliptown]
#15451568 - 12/01/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I rarely hear about people trying heroic doses of Amanita. Although it seems to me, with the proper prep work, its a very pleasant and sort of dreamy experience. In the low dose I've tried, its been pretty stimulating for me. Increased talkativeness, and some nice euphoria. I went out to try and pick some last week to finally try a full dose, but it seems that people's favorite thing to do when they see Amanitas in the wild is to stomp them. Its really too bad.
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: Meteloides]
#15470469 - 12/05/11 04:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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really heavy doses can be fatel in the sense you might kill yourself accidently. it gets really intense and bizzar
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: smiley69]
#16103136 - 04/17/12 06:14 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I like you. if your a woman lets tripppppp
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: Jordainio]
#16103307 - 04/17/12 06:43 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Please don't resurrect months-dead threads for this^.
PM's are working.
Blessings.
-------------------- Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order: 1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine 2)Amanita (urine drank twice) 3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose) 4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators) 5)Salvia (need to try quid)
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Re: Best way to take Amanita muscaria Powder? [Re: flickedbic]
#16103787 - 04/17/12 08:21 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I read every post in here and found it helpful, I dont know if you are the op but if you are im sorry, but if not, I dont know why you feel you have to say that to me. I said something dumb but only to bookmark this page for my self as I have no idea how to save a specific part of a thread for later...so there. So if you're a moderator, ill stop doing this. But seriously...you just further resurrected a dead topic by scolding me for something unimportant just sayin there buddy. thats the beauty of the internet isn't it. No real rules but many that think there should be. Maybe my highlighting the topic will help a newcomer to the site?! Or maybe, it hurt you very deeply that I brought it back, in which case I am sorry. Otherwise............fuck it
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