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blazter
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: blazter]
#15473524 - 12/06/11 08:11 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Update!!
First week of incubation, finally some grow!.
2 jars have mycelium the others 2 still have nothing.
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blazter
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: blazter]
#15486486 - 12/08/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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more colonization
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PrimalSoup
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: blazter]
#15486636 - 12/08/11 03:40 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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blazter
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#15488283 - 12/08/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanks mate
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blazter
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: blazter]
#15509803 - 12/13/11 10:46 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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More grow update. Only 2 jars are colonizing 1 got contamination and the other 1 is stalled.

2 weeks.
Edited by blazter (12/13/11 05:02 PM)
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: blazter]
#15511068 - 12/13/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why did you only soak for 1 hour compared to 24?
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blazter
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#15511675 - 12/13/11 04:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
TheEaglesGift said: Why did you only soak for 1 hour compared to 24?
Cause I was in hurry.
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: blazter]
#15512012 - 12/13/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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blazter said: More grow update. Only 2 jars are colonizing 1 got contamination and the other 1 is stalled.

2 weeks.
Other things equal, a jar that has been stalled for a week or more is an infected jar.
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blazter said:
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TheEaglesGift said: Why did you only soak for 1 hour compared to 24?
Cause I was in hurry.
The point of soaking is that it germinates the contaminate endospores so they die in the PC. How long did you PC and at what PSI? Also, I don't trust those poly-fil filters. You can never be too sterile in this hobby.
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blazter
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: gref]
#15520751 - 12/15/11 12:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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gref I PC for 90 minutes and I don't know how much PSI cause I don't have the gauge.
Why don't you trust poly-fill? As you can see the mycelium is growing even with all my errors (first timer) .
Regards
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: blazter]
#15521021 - 12/15/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've used synthetic filter discs for years - they are a better filter against spores because the polyfill has larger effective pore size. Athough even with SFD sometimes jars will contam if the discs are damp at all and something germinates on the outside, grows through, and sporulates on the inside. 
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: blazter]
#15521096 - 12/15/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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blazter said: gref I PC for 90 minutes and I don't know how much PSI cause I don't have the gauge.
Why don't you trust poly-fill? As you can see the mycelium is growing even with all my errors (first timer) .
Regards
90 minutes sounds good enough, but it needs to be at 15 PSI.
I don't trust poly-fil because I had the worst time ever dealing with tyvek and I just don't see poly-fil being much better. I use poly-fil in my monotubs and it has so much gaps in it I don't see how it could make a good filter. However, if you can get jars to fully colonize with it then power to you.
I use synthetic filter discs and they work so well.
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: gref]
#15521511 - 12/15/11 03:46 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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i back the synthetic filter disks statement, i ordered them from http://www.themadseason.com/ (a shroomery sponsor) i got the large ones and cut quarter sized circiles out of them (about 25 per filter disk) and made lids with silicon injection ports like this. but instead of the tyvek i use SFD's http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10628004#10628004
as far as soaking goes, i have soaked for 24 hours, 5 hours and not soaked at all, all with the same results. as long as you make sure to rinse the hell out of them you and pressure cook for the right ammount of time (90min @15psi) you will be fine.
here are a few helpful links i used when first getting started, havent had a contam since the first 2 times i tried growing a couple years ago.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10636495
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6817701/an/0/page/0
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11525679
good luck with any and all future grows!      
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blazter
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: MrCubensis]
#15521657 - 12/15/11 04:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanks MrCubensis I have read a lot but still did some errors but oh well from the errors we learn next time it will be better.
About the jar lids, I was going to do that tek but someone in this forum told me that poly-fill work just well. Ill keep updating about the colonization and grow.
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blazter
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: blazter]
#15787638 - 02/10/12 08:30 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Update:
It have been log time since updates but the process have been taking long time since this is my first time and i did lots of erros. Anyway here is my new update!.
The monotub have been 12 days since I added the spawn to the substrate. That little mushroom grow even without light and FAE inside the plastic bag.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: blazter]
#15788647 - 02/10/12 02:39 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, ya get those little puny ones, like the rest are saying "hey, you go check and see what it's like out there..." 
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#15789942 - 02/10/12 07:47 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Day 2 of fruiting. How fast are they going?!
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: blazter]
#15790268 - 02/10/12 09:09 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you want better yields, you should soak and introduce more FAE.
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: maug]
#15790360 - 02/10/12 09:37 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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where is the depth!?!?! did you just pour your jars into that tub? next time get yourself some coir, it will help out a ton! you want the depth to be 4" from the bottom of the tub, it will also require time for the grains to colonize the coir. but as was posted earlier, follow this tek:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: MrCubensis]
#15790454 - 02/10/12 10:11 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
MrCubensis said:
as far as soaking goes, i have soaked for 24 hours, 5 hours and not soaked at all, all with the same results. as long as you make sure to rinse the hell out of them you and pressure cook for the right ammount of time (90min @15psi) you will be fine.
I thought one of the ideas behind soaking was for the seeds to absorb moisture, so that a few weeks from now your jars are still "hydrated" enough to allow myc to grow. (I know there is also a simmer phase for the seeds on the stove) Perhaps this is one of the reasons one of his jars stalled, could it have just simply dried out?
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Re: My first monotub - WBS - (Grow Log) - (Pics) [Re: bollocks]
#15791496 - 02/11/12 06:14 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes the jars stalled because they dried out.
It have coir lol, actually damion5050 tek the depth is only 1 inch only because originally I was going to mix 5 jars and only 2 survived.
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