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realrasta
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milk compost

#1543118 - 05/12/03 09:00 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

i ve always used milk to start an instant compost. the compost works so good and is so healthy snow never sticks to it because its workin that hard keepin the pile pretty warm. a few times blizzards have come and snow sticks then but it melts off in under a day,and i live 20 minutes to canada.
so what this comes down to is this really healthy compost good for muchies? just wondering if milk would effect this even though the presence of milk will be gone when its done compostin. i usally throw hourse poop and wood chips and a lil ash. is there anything i should add to help?

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realrasta
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Re: milk compost

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#1543216 - 05/12/03 09:27 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

has anyone used milk to super compost

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psyphon
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Re: milk compost

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#1543805 - 05/13/03 12:10 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

One good thing about milk for mushies is that it contains a lot of tryptophan :smile:

. Its listed in TMC as a compost supplement, but compared to the nutrients listed for milk and millet (for example since its used in cultivation) milk only has higher levels of fat and calcium. The nutrients listed are: Total dry matter, Protein, Fat, Fiber, N-free extract, Total Minerals, Calcium, Phosphorus, Nitrogen and Potasium.

The Mushroom Cultivator has lots of good information on composting including the whole process step by step.

From my knowledge of reading that book and reading here, I'd say it probably needs at least straw if you are going to use it as is. If you are going to make more it has the potential to be a good compost, but needs some more things. In TMC horse manure, straw, cottonseed meal, and gypsum are listed as good ingredients. I think that cottonseed meal can be replaced with other grains and things.

Here's some things summarized from TMC:

It seems that a key part of composting is the Carbon to Nitrogen ratio. Which should be 17:1 at the time of spawning. By knowing this information about the ingredients that go into the compost you can estimate what should be put in to achieve the proper ratio.

So in terms of what to add, I'd say:

maybe gypsum: I don't know if it serves the same purpose as ash but it is meant to add calcium, improve physical structure, increase water holding capacity, and balance against K, Mg, P and Na.

Limestone: for the same reason that it's added to casings; to improve pH.

Wheat straw: if by horse poop you mean manure straight out of the horse's ass, w/o additional straw (like from the bedding, etc) you should add wheat straw in a ratio of 9 parts straw to 1 part manure. You can also use rye, oat, barley, and rye grass straws, but wheat is considered the best.

Cottonseed meal or equivalent: malt sprouts, brewers' grains, peanut meal, or chicken manure.

:smile:

This should help, but you really should get TMC its great to have to look up stuff like this. If you already have it go read chapter V.

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Re: milk compost

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#1544518 - 05/13/03 08:00 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

thank you very nice. yeah i wanna buy that book real bad. i will do that

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Re: milk compost

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#1544519 - 05/13/03 08:04 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23463 , particulary the links at the bottom.

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