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OfflineFreedom
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Re: Any SETI nutters here? [Re: blingbling]
    #15433303 - 11/27/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

yeah man I heard homo sapiens was breeding with several different hominids. Must have been desperate times..

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Re: Any SETI nutters here? [Re: Freedom]
    #15434006 - 11/28/11 03:00 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Freedom said:
yeah man I heard homo sapiens was breeding with several different hominids. Must have been desperate times..




In Kentucky it's still a common practice.  Not to mention the sheep and cows and neighbors dogs when they can catch them.


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Re: Any SETI nutters here? [Re: Freedom]
    #15435060 - 11/28/11 11:37 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Freedom said:
you mean the drake equation?

the drake equation is conjecture.




The drake equation is solid.  The values you put for the terms are conjecture.  The difference between the equation and the terms is important.  The equation organizes our thinking, the terms are our guesses.

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Re: Any SETI nutters here? [Re: DieCommie]
    #15435132 - 11/28/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

If by solid you mean it leaves out a dozen other equally (or more) important variables then...


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Re: Any SETI nutters here? [Re: DieCommie]
    #15435133 - 11/28/11 12:01 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Isnt that the Fermi Paradox they are talking about anyway?

Something like, given that the odds of life existing are so high, then how do we account for the lack of evidence for their existence. Reasons being that perhaps intelligent life is rare, or that survival of intelligent species is unlikely because they destroy themselves...... something along those line, forgive me if im incorrect.


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Re: Any SETI nutters here? [Re: Desert Elf]
    #15435164 - 11/28/11 12:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Just think about how even 100,000 years from now, it is doubtful there will be any dolphin spacecraft. Intelligence does not equal technology and technology does not equal a desire to leave one's home-world.

The Drake equation is fraught with assumptions that alien species will have similar levels of curiosity and drive and other human-like qualities.

Here is a little known fact: out of the orginal SETI team, only ONE member came up with the idea of listening at the frequency of hydrogen. Later, people said it was the 'obvious' choice even though no nearby species are beaming to us on that obvious frequency.


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Re: Any SETI nutters here? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #15435261 - 11/28/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I don't any longer run Seti@home on my pc, but if the speed of light wouldn't be the limit for transmitting information, then it would make sense :smile:
I just don't believe in the limit of the speed of light :grin:
Prove to me that mass accelerated to this limit does let crumble down the universe - nobody ever done something even similar, right ? :grin:
And if it's not mass, then just take some other wave/particle we may not know yet, but which can interfere with our known physical world, maybe similar to neutrinos, which we learned to know only just recently.
Or maybe gravitation ? How fast does it expand ?
:kingtard:


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Re: Any SETI nutters here? [Re: DieCommie]
    #15439136 - 11/29/11 06:51 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Freedom said:
you mean the drake equation?

the drake equation is conjecture.




The drake equation is solid.  The values you put for the terms are conjecture.  The difference between the equation and the terms is important.  The equation organizes our thinking, the terms are our guesses.





yes I meant the values are conjecture but guess is a better description.

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