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Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) UPDATED: DEC 27th 2011 (pin porn)
    #15429531 - 11/27/11 07:54 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Ok first of I would like to say this is my very first grow, wish me luck.

First off I started with the making the jars, two holes, one for polyfill and one for high temp silicone. Then I used BRF, and 1 CC of fluid in each jar.

My homemade glovebox




The LC took about 5CC's because of unexpected pressure.
1 tablespoon karo, 250ML water, 15PSI 15minutes in PC.

This is my tub room, that stays at 76 degrees (adjustable). It has 6 jars, and 2 LC's brewing.




Day 7
(Great growth inside LC's , Two jars are showing spots)
- [Had visible growth 24hrs later]


Sign of life in a JAR!





Fruiting Chamber



PINS!


On the other side of my closet, I have this fruiting chamber and light waiting.

Edited by domdadank (12/27/11 01:33 PM)

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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: domdadank]
    #15429567 - 11/27/11 08:06 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I have that same sentry fireproof safe


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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: Smokey-hitz]
    #15429585 - 11/27/11 08:16 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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I have that same sentry fireproof safe



You know they all share the same key also?

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Debating if I should just pump 3 CC's of fluid LC, into every jar.

Btw - I  forgot to label the LC's but one was started 24hrs before and one has more myc, So I think im may take that chance. Question, if two types of MYC or spores are mixed what could happen?

Golden Teachers and Mazatapec's


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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: domdadank]
    #15429621 - 11/27/11 08:30 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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domdadank said:
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Smokey-hitz said:
I have that same sentry fireproof safe



You know they all share the same key also?

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Debating if I should just pump 3 CC's of fluid LC, into every jar.

Btw - I  forgot to label the LC's but one was started 24hrs before and one has more myc, So I think im may take that chance. Question, if two types of MYC or spores are mixed what could happen?

Golden Teachers and Mazatapec's






I'm pretty sure they will fight for nutrients leaving you with small mushrooms.

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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: iron]
    #15429651 - 11/27/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Good luck Bro


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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: iron]
    #15429664 - 11/27/11 08:43 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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iron said:
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domdadank said:
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Smokey-hitz said:
I have that same sentry fireproof safe



You know they all share the same key also?

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Debating if I should just pump 3 CC's of fluid LC, into every jar.

Btw - I  forgot to label the LC's but one was started 24hrs before and one has more myc, So I think im may take that chance. Question, if two types of MYC or spores are mixed what could happen?

Golden Teachers and Mazatapec's






I'm pretty sure they will fight for nutrients leaving you with small mushrooms.



Why would they fight for nutrients anymore than if they were not mixed? A cube is a cube.

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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: The Influence]
    #15429686 - 11/27/11 08:51 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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iron said:
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domdadank said:
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Smokey-hitz said:
I have that same sentry fireproof safe



You know they all share the same key also?

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Debating if I should just pump 3 CC's of fluid LC, into every jar.

Btw - I  forgot to label the LC's but one was started 24hrs before and one has more myc, So I think im may take that chance. Question, if two types of MYC or spores are mixed what could happen?

Golden Teachers and Mazatapec's






I'm pretty sure they will fight for nutrients leaving you with small mushrooms.



Why would they fight for nutrients anymore than if they were not mixed? A cube is a cube.




You're right now that I looked it up. I thought that because of outdated information I read.

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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: The Influence] * 1
    #15429711 - 11/27/11 08:59 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

your hole size on the SGFC look a little big, might be an issue with keeping humidity. also if you can you will want to raise your FC off the floor at least a foot since most of contams are within 1 foot of the ground.


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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: ubimarble]
    #15429804 - 11/27/11 09:22 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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your hole size on the SGFC look a little big, might be an issue with keeping humidity. also if you can you will want to raise your FC off the floor at least a foot since most of contams are within 1 foot of the ground.



+5 for catching that :awethumb:

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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: The Influence]
    #15429891 - 11/27/11 09:51 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I have a humidity gauge right now, but i also did plan to plug those holes with polyfill to try to keep some moisture in, thanks for pointing that out. I'll just put the FC on top of another bin.

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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: domdadank] * 1
    #15429907 - 11/27/11 09:56 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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I have a humidity gauge right now, but i also did plan to plug those holes with polyfill to try to keep some moisture in, thanks for pointing that out. I'll just put the FC on top of another bin.



I would just see what your humidity is at when you put the perlite in there before you go plugging up any holes. Also I don't know if you know, but make sure you put some jars or little blocks of wood under the corners of your FC so that air can circulate through the holes in the bottom aswell.

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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: The Influence]
    #15434347 - 11/28/11 07:18 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

So I checked my jars again today.

Status
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3 are showing MYC near the top.
3 show no growth or mold

Both LC's look great.

So I added 3 CC's into each of the ones that had no growth.
Lets hope I used the golden teacher LC. I just used the more progressed LC.

QUESTION
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Should I add 3 CC's of LC to the other 3 that have little growth? or keep it as a control group?

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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: domdadank]
    #15434489 - 11/28/11 08:23 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Man you don't want to be sticking anything in them jars you don't have to. They are showing growth let them be. How long has it been since you inoculated? You should have just waited on the other three as well. And take them out of that incubator. Mycelium needs gas exchange otherwise the build up of Co2 will slow the growth greatly. Room temp out on a shelf is the best way to colonize jars. Also it has been proven that ambient light is beneficial to mycelium at all stages of growth. They aint getting any light in that box.

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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: The Influence]
    #15434569 - 11/28/11 08:54 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Man you don't want to be sticking anything in them jars you don't have to. They are showing growth let them be. How long has it been since you inoculated? You should have just waited on the other three as well. And take them out of that incubator. Mycelium needs gas exchange otherwise the build up of Co2 will slow the growth greatly. Room temp out on a shelf is the best way to colonize jars. Also it has been proven that ambient light is beneficial to mycelium at all stages of growth. They aint getting any light in that box.




Thanks for the advice, If this is true would I be able to leave the one flap open and have it get air and  smaller amounts of light?

Today is Day 7

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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: domdadank]
    #15434731 - 11/28/11 09:49 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Man you don't want to be sticking anything in them jars you don't have to. They are showing growth let them be. How long has it been since you inoculated? You should have just waited on the other three as well. And take them out of that incubator. Mycelium needs gas exchange otherwise the build up of Co2 will slow the growth greatly. Room temp out on a shelf is the best way to colonize jars. Also it has been proven that ambient light is beneficial to mycelium at all stages of growth. They aint getting any light in that box.




Thanks for the advice, If this is true would I be able to leave the one flap open and have it get air and  smaller amounts of light?

Today is Day 7




Yes you can leave your incubator lid off to get GE and get light while maintaining your temps. I keep my stuff inside the incubater and leave my lid on without problems, but light has been shown to benefit mycelium recently.

Patience is key!

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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: iron]
    #15458097 - 12/03/11 08:44 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

HEre is a update

The 3 non LC jars still have there growth spots slightly bigger

the LC ones have alot of growth from 20-30%




Top 3 are spores + LC bottom 3 are spores

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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: domdadank]
    #15458383 - 12/03/11 10:20 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Moving right along. Keep the pics coming. I love to follow first grows. Good luck.


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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: mycotowne]
    #15469988 - 12/05/11 02:50 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I Just took 12 half pint jars, I didn't do the inject port or polyfill on them. I want to compare the contaminate rate and also want to see how the half pint jars work.


Edited by domdadank (12/06/11 06:56 AM)

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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: domdadank]
    #15507897 - 12/12/11 10:59 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Currently every jar is about 60% done. Big ones and small ones.

All jars still uncontamed, even the smaller ones I didnt use a GB for.

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Re: Golden Teachers - First Grow (pf tek) [Re: iron]
    #15508390 - 12/13/11 01:16 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Debating if I should just pump 3 CC's of fluid LC, into every jar.

Btw - I  forgot to label the LC's but one was started 24hrs before and one has more myc, So I think im may take that chance. Question, if two types of MYC or spores are mixed what could happen?

Golden Teachers and Mazatapec's






I'm pretty sure they will fight for nutrients leaving you with small mushrooms.



Why would they fight for nutrients anymore than if they were not mixed? A cube is a cube.




You're right now that I looked it up. I thought that because of outdated information I read.




I disagree, in a way. You will have a higher likelihood of sub-strains either competing with each other, or struggling to connect with each other. This higher likelihood is caused by the fact that you would have introduced more cube genetic by using two different strains(sets of genetics).

Using MS is always a bit of a gamble, because you never know which genetic will express themselves and pull ahead. It's rare but with some of the less domesticated strains you can even have sub strains that are monstrously fast colonizers, but are non fruiting. What a shame that would be. That's why when using MS to inoculate, it's in my opinion important to use popular strains. They're popular for a reason, and even though they you are using multi spore, they have gone through many years of selection through cultivation.

I have a theory that when using MS inoculations you would be better off using liquid culture than injecting your jars straight from your spore syringe. The reason I speculate is , is that when you created your liquid culture you had a certain set of genetics that came forth, and those genetics are what makes up that specific liquid culture. So every jar you inoculate with that liquid culture is going to be comprised of those expressed genes, so when you spawn lets say 5 jars to a monotub, those 5 jars are already the same if not similar genes because they all came from the same LC. On the other hand, when using a spore syringe to inoculate 5 separate jars- you may have 5 totally different sets of genetics in each jar, and when you spawn those 5 jars to your monotub some of those sets of genetics may compete with each other or have to struggle to bond.

I'm curious to see what others think of this.

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