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OfflineGastroDeath
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Past addictions or current addictions...
    #9789024 - 02/13/09 03:13 AM (15 years, 13 days ago)

And how you surpassed them, or plan to surpass them.

I used to be addicted to amphetamines, specifically adderall.

I snorted it too much, and the withdrawals were way too painful to deal with, so I just did more and more. I would get horrid headaches, I would constantly twitch, and it would come down to eating or snorting those stupid fucking pills (I am a traveler/squatter, so money is limited).

I found inspiration through 5 hits of acid and a case of cider. That night, I realized I was going againt every ideal and belief I hold. I was becoming a slave to a fucking pill. A pill! It shouldnt dominate me, I should dominate it. I control it, it doesnt control me. After that night, I suffered weeks, a month and a half to be exact, of constant urges and pains. I eventually made it. It was a nightmare... I cant believe I actually became dependent on such meaningless shit. Sure, its fun, but it means absolutely nothing. Why would I throw away all of my beliefs and life (which is based on naturalistic pre-civilization shamanism, with a deep respect and appreciation of psychedelics) because of some goddamn pill?

I became a more understanding and sympathetic being after that whole episode, and Im unbelievably glad that I made it through such a bad stage.

I know this is a psychedelic subforum, but Ive noticed many psychedelic users have (or had) addictions because of recreational drugs. I am an experienced psychedelic user who has been studying medicine for years, and yet, I still fell victim to amphetamines.

Anyone else have stories of addiction and dependence?


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... [Re: GastroDeath]
    #9789212 - 02/13/09 05:48 AM (15 years, 13 days ago)

freebased coke was very hard to walk from
but when you walk from it even the powder does not attract.
tobacco smoking might be harder
it's more socially acceptable and known to be a decent harm reduction behavior

lsd was useful to me in breaking the chains
not essential but more useful than cigarettes to create a harm reduction mentality.


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #9789243 - 02/13/09 06:02 AM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Triple cccs. those stupid ass cough medicine pills were so easy to get and free. My friends would just get as many as we could in one day then get stupid for like a week.

Idk how i got off them. I think i just realized what it was doing to my body and how shitty i felt. and now i can't even look at a cough medicine isle in a store with out thinking about it. But ive gotten past all that. stick to the safer natural side of drugs.


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... [Re: jack843]
    #9789248 - 02/13/09 06:10 AM (15 years, 13 days ago)

I've never really been addicted to anything besides cigarettes.

I had a brief phase in high school where I would steal my dad's OC 80's and put them up my nose every day after school... but when he caught on and started locking up his pills I didn't really feel too bad without them... I just went back to smoking my herb.


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... [Re: Sid]
    #9789356 - 02/13/09 07:19 AM (15 years, 13 days ago)

it might sound lame but i think im addicted to weed...withdrawal symptons = extreme boredom, no appetite
not very rough, but fuck it takes all my money :P
not trying to quit just had a dry day yesterday ;( aha anyone else here addicted to the chronz?


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... [Re: Harlz]
    #9789613 - 02/13/09 08:55 AM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Quote:

Harlz said:
it might sound lame but i think im addicted to weed...withdrawal symptons = extreme boredom, no appetite
not very rough, but fuck it takes all my money :P
not trying to quit just had a dry day yesterday ;( aha anyone else here addicted to the chronz?




Don't underestimate yourself. A statement like that can't "sound lame". Although it creates no mental dependence, it does create a habitual dependence, just like taking an afternoon nap every day for a year, or having your morning coffee. Once it becomes routine it's hard to break. Human minds are simple creatures on that level.


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... [Re: Wapakz]
    #9789720 - 02/13/09 09:28 AM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Quote:

Wapakz said:
Quote:

Harlz said:
it might sound lame but i think im addicted to weed...withdrawal symptons = extreme boredom, no appetite
not very rough, but fuck it takes all my money :P
not trying to quit just had a dry day yesterday ;( aha anyone else here addicted to the chronz?




Don't underestimate yourself. A statement like that can't "sound lame". Although it creates no mental dependence, it does create a habitual dependence, just like taking an afternoon nap every day for a year, or having your morning coffee. Once it becomes routine it's hard to break. Human minds are simple creatures on that level.




Weed DEFINITELY causes mental addiction, regardless of what anybody says. It's easy to see. Just because it isn't physically addicting doesn't mean it isn't addicting. Plenty of people completely rely on weed to be able to do anything.


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... [Re: LSDreamer]
    #9789899 - 02/13/09 10:11 AM (15 years, 13 days ago)

I was previously addicted to methamphetamine (years ago) and (to a degree) DXM.  Those are completely out of my life though.

I am now a recovering heroin addict.  I was IVing black tar heroin for about a year.  I am now on Methadone Maintenance (have been for about 2.5 years) and I take 90mg Methadone every morning.  I haven't done any opiate besides my prescribed Methadone in almost 2 years.

More currently, I have also found myself dependent on Klonopin (clonazepam) for almost a year.  For those who don't know, Klonopin/clonazepam is a strong benzodiazepine (sedative-hypnotic), similar to Xanax, Valium, or Ativan, which is prescribed for extreme anxiety and seizures.  However, clonazepam is much stronger than any of those named medications, with a much longer duration/half-life.  It is prescribed more for seizures rather than anxiety due to its potency and half-life (1mg Klonopin/clonazepam is equipotent to 2mg Xanax/alprazolam).  I started just taking them recreationally (not prescribed), but somehow that turned to daily and now it's basically me taking them to avoid physical withdrawals, I don't get high from them at all anymore.  Everyone sells them at the god damn methadone clinic...:mad2:  I am in the current process of weening myself off of it.  I am tapering down 0.25mg every week or two, and that has been working so far (went from 7mg/day to 4mg/day).  I really am trying to end this addiction ASAP.  Wish me luck.

And of course I am addicted to cannabis and have been for years (it doesn't bug me).  I have my prescription and smoke perhaps 10 grams a week of top quality kush.

P.S.  It seems my clonazepam addiction really DAMPENS any psychedelic trip I go on.  I was told that once your body is addicted and used to the medication and has tolerance, it shouldn't dampen your trips.  However, I can take 700ug of LSD and it feels like I took maybe 300ug.  My trips don't "engage" me nearly as much as they should, and the visual activity is very very dampened (I find it hard to close my eyes and just become totally one with the hallucinations, which used to be easy for me, even on like 200mcg).  And that's like the most enjoyable thing about tripping for me.  I still am unable to sleep, and I feel the drug, I just don't trip nearly as hard as I should be (it is very hard for me to get to the point where my visuals are so enveloping that I can't see in front of me).

Now, whenever I trip, I try to underdose myself (on clonazepam) by about 0.25-0.5mg the day of and the day before (to make the plasma levels lower in my body).  This seems to help, and on one occasion it COMPLETELY worked (I took like 500ug and it BLEW MY MIND like it hasn't been blown in a year).  I don't know why it worked so well on that occasion, but I'm really trying to perfect the "art" of underdosing so that my trip is engaging and not dampened (so that I can trip while I'm tapering).  I pretty much need to make sure my body is in a state of maintaining less than usual (not in withdrawal/hurting, but not like taking my daily dose).  I'm trying to figure out the best way to do this, as I am sitting on LSD, DMT (freebase and sterile liquid acetate), and enough cubensis mushrooms for a strong trip (about 4.5g).

I suppose it just gives me more incentive to finish my taper and get off the clonazepam.  If anyone has any suggestions/comments about tapering off of benzos OR this specific tripping issue, please reply to this thread.  I am very open for feedback/support.


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... [Re: psilocybonautX]
    #9790171 - 02/13/09 11:28 AM (15 years, 13 days ago)

I used to be addicted (mentally) to weed. Smoked 3+ times a day. I stopped a month or so ago cold turkey. I was afraid I was going to be bored all the time but it isn't all that bad. I just burn brain cells using the tv and computer.


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... [Re: mastabruce]
    #9790367 - 02/13/09 12:42 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Luckily, I've never been addicted to anything.


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... [Re: wildchild68]
    #9792863 - 02/13/09 10:01 PM (15 years, 12 days ago)

I've been pretty badly addicted to weed, codiene and tobacco. Completely quit tobacco, but have learnt to moderate weed to no more than once a week. Codiene has become a very rare indulgence, and I try to stay away from it, because if I use it once, most of the time i'll end up binging for a few days before I quit again for a few months. Though I think these addictions were necessary in order for me to find a balance of drug using which doesn't have any negative effect on my life. To be honest, the way I surpassed these addictions, was by simply becoming addicted and observing the devastating effects. That scared me enough to moderate. And I completely quit tobacco, because in my mind it's no worse than a heroin or meth addiction, just that the negative effects take longer to set in.


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... [Re: retrospect]
    #9792905 - 02/13/09 10:08 PM (15 years, 12 days ago)

I'm getting pretty addicted to adderall.
When I got it, I swore to myself I would only take it once in a while and I wouldn't increase the dose.

Well, now I'm taking twice the prescribed amount almost every day.
I can't function without it anymore.

I've even snorted it a few times.
I think I should stop taking it.
My mind is tired.


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... [Re: alternatereality]
    #9792924 - 02/13/09 10:11 PM (15 years, 12 days ago)

I knocked the heroin habbit 5 months ago.
I still find myself drinking all the damn time. I'd rather switch around what's happened. Quit drinking 5 months ago and doing smack now.
I guess i'm only using alcohol because it's the easiest thing to get since i can't leave my house


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... [Re: GastroDeath]
    #9792948 - 02/13/09 10:15 PM (15 years, 12 days ago)

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GastroDeath said:
And how you surpassed them, or plan to surpass them.

I used to be addicted to amphetamines, specifically adderall.

I snorted it too much, and the withdrawals were way too painful to deal with, so I just did more and more. I would get horrid headaches, I would constantly twitch, and it would come down to eating or snorting those stupid fucking pills (I am a traveler/squatter, so money is limited).

I found inspiration through 5 hits of acid and a case of cider. That night, I realized I was going againt every ideal and belief I hold. I was becoming a slave to a fucking pill. A pill! It shouldnt dominate me, I should dominate it. I control it, it doesnt control me. After that night, I suffered weeks, a month and a half to be exact, of constant urges and pains. I eventually made it. It was a nightmare... I cant believe I actually became dependent on such meaningless shit. Sure, its fun, but it means absolutely nothing. Why would I throw away all of my beliefs and life (which is based on naturalistic pre-civilization shamanism, with a deep respect and appreciation of psychedelics) because of some goddamn pill?

I became a more understanding and sympathetic being after that whole episode, and Im unbelievably glad that I made it through such a bad stage.

I know this is a psychedelic subforum, but Ive noticed many psychedelic users have (or had) addictions because of recreational drugs. I am an experienced psychedelic user who has been studying medicine for years, and yet, I still fell victim to amphetamines.

Anyone else have stories of addiction and dependence?




I've been getting bad headaches a lot lately.
I thought it was stress. Maybe not.


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... [Re: alternatereality]
    #9793720 - 02/14/09 02:04 AM (15 years, 12 days ago)

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I know this is a psychedelic subforum, but Ive noticed many psychedelic users have (or had) addictions because of recreational drugs. I am an experienced psychedelic user who has been studying medicine for years, and yet, I still fell victim to amphetamines.




Psychedelics are recreational drugs for most people using them.


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... Weed - Opiates - Dissociatives [Re: GastroDeath]
    #15413453 - 11/23/11 03:03 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Arrgh - those addictions! For years I had been addicted to both Opiates and a nightly before bed smoking of weed (or alternatives)
For the last 12yrs on and off I've been on the Methadone program 100mg which controlled my bad behavior but KILLED my creative inspiration as a musician for the last few years.

Over the last year I've slowly weaned myself off the damned Methadone at 2mg, then 1mg reduction per week. Still kept smoking that weed, or no sleep would happen!

Last few months I discovered MXE, which I take as regularly as life responsibilities will allow. This has allowed my to quit weed altogether somehow and I now have NO desire to take opiates either!!

Thankfully the negative consequences of regular - tempered MXE use are so minimal, as I'm pretty sure I have a bit of a habit with the stuff. The good SO far outweighs the bad - and NO physical dependence with MXE.
For now I will accept the trade-off with a firm understanding that eventually that has to go too!
Good luck with your struggles, people:grin:

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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... Weed - Opiates - Dissociatives [Re: Hellvoid]
    #15413941 - 11/23/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Adderall and xanax were the two things that had me spiriling out of controll. Kicked those habits to the curb a couple years ago.


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... [Re: LSDreamer]
    #15414017 - 11/23/11 05:24 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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LSDreamer said:
Quote:

Wapakz said:
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Harlz said:
it might sound lame but i think im addicted to weed...withdrawal symptons = extreme boredom, no appetite
not very rough, but fuck it takes all my money :P
not trying to quit just had a dry day yesterday ;( aha anyone else here addicted to the chronz?




Don't underestimate yourself. A statement like that can't "sound lame". Although it creates no mental dependence, it does create a habitual dependence, just like taking an afternoon nap every day for a year, or having your morning coffee. Once it becomes routine it's hard to break. Human minds are simple creatures on that level.




Weed DEFINITELY causes mental addiction, regardless of what anybody says. It's easy to see. Just because it isn't physically addicting doesn't mean it isn't addicting. Plenty of people completely rely on weed to be able to do anything.



There is no such thing as "mental addiction", there is only addiction and addiction with physical withdrawals.  Its so silly to minimize an addiction by calling it mentally addictive.  There is no physical withdrawal from cocaine but it sure as fuck is addictive.  Your mind IS part of your body so any way you dissect, addiction is addiction.


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #15414712 - 11/23/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Addiction, as was said here, is addiction, period.  I thought for years that I was not addicted to weed, but I smoked it daily, all the time, for many years, until crack solved that problem...yeah right.  It simply took all the money I once used for weed.  Eventually, I went into treatment and stayed "clean" for several years.  I became frustrated by and disillusioned with the 12-step program, however.  So here I am.  I'm doing okay, though members of the program would be horrified and disgusted. 

The point is, don't be misled by thoughts of "mental" vs. physical addiction.  If you think you need it all the time, and it's negatively affecting your life, then it's addiction.  It's up to you to decide that change is needed.  Hopefully, before someone else makes the decision for you, and before addiction ruins your life or somebody else's.


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Re: Past addictions or current addictions... [Re: 2 cats freckles]
    #15415810 - 11/24/11 01:09 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I was addicted to cigarettes for a long time starting as a teen. I quit a year ago to see if it was even possible. I have always been a fan of smoking anything. I have always been able to quit and walk away. The hardest thing to stop was cocaine. The rush, the body feel and the moment was all I needed. Stopped to finish school and begin my interests in other hobbies.


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