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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: sunset_mission] 1
#15415362 - 11/23/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hooray internet debates!
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: abltsandwich]
#15415386 - 11/23/11 10:32 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I pray to the Almighty Electron every morning before I turn on my computer. And yea, I have faith that He will flow forth through my circuitry and work the spirit of the Holy Current in the name of the Blessed Voltage, forever and ever. Amen.
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: deCypher]
#15415401 - 11/23/11 10:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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deCypher said: I pray to the Almighty Electron every morning before I turn on my computer. And yea, I have faith that He will flow forth through my circuitry and work the spirit of the Holy Current in the name of the Blessed Voltage, forever and ever. Amen. 
Your blaspheming ways will not go unpunished. Only the Holy Neuron shall be recognized as the Almighty.
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Morphogenesis]
#15415462 - 11/23/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Morphogenesis said: Towards the end of the video I actually felt really sorry for the preacher. Imagine how disconnected and confusing the world must seem to him. Not only does he believe all of the superstition and negativity about sin, but he is compelled to embarrass himself in order to spread the "good word." It's just beyond me. That man needs a big group hug and a cold beer with friends.
http://www.myvidster.com/video/351878/I_teach_logic_mother_fucker
....and a few science classes or maybe some revelations to prove the logic prof wrong.
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: B0b0]
#15415474 - 11/23/11 10:56 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Honestly I couldn't really make out a whole lot of what the professor was saying. It's stupid the video ended up online, because the guy will probably get in deep doo-doo over it. Removing tenure or even firing the guy.
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: sunset_mission]
#15415476 - 11/23/11 10:57 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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This video, and his calls of free speech, remind me of the advice, "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."
I've seen these clowns too, at bus stops, on campus, etc. If they are allowed to preach bullshit, and try and shame people, without being confronted and publically humiated. They win.
Lech Walesa was once asked how Solidarity started. He answered, "By talking loud at the bus stops." These clowns have wagged their filthy schlongs in our faces, unchallenged, for too long.
Made my day to see this professor just take his shit and walk away. Fuck 'im.
Scientists need to come down from the Pure Science Tower of Isolation and help defeat these blowhards.
BTW, many, many Christian Schools teach debate as a way for them to defend themselves and argue effectively with prospective converts. They understand the game and are well prepared to twist logic on it's head to defend faith and dogma.
Not all Christians are like this. But, no one is fooled that Christianity in this country is like other religions. There area powerful group that are seeking to take us back to the days of the pilgrims. They are pressuring politicians to effect laws that have consequences for everyone.
How many abortion providers have been killed? And how many are left in Kansas now?
Terrorism works.
Fuck that.
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#15415546 - 11/23/11 11:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tchan909 said: I honestly have a hard time seeing the line between "passive atheism" and "agnosticism." To set the record straight, when I refer to atheism, I am referring to a denial of the existence of God or gods. I do not see how passive atheism or agnosticism are different, and if you call yourself an atheist there is a passive denial taking place. If you're trying not to shit on the beliefs of others, then call yourself an agnostic for fuck's sake.
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: psilyguy]
#15415771 - 11/24/11 12:53 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tchan909 said: I honestly have a hard time seeing the line between "passive atheism" and "agnosticism." To set the record straight, when I refer to atheism, I am referring to a denial of the existence of God or gods. I do not see how passive atheism or agnosticism are different, and if you call yourself an atheist there is a passive denial taking place. If you're trying not to shit on the beliefs of others, then call yourself an agnostic for fuck's sake.

I am 100% certain that's the coolest fucking thing in this thread.
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Brennus]
#15415831 - 11/24/11 01:22 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: why all the hate for people that believe in the christian god, I keep hearing people on this site talking about respect, unity, tolerance, open mindedness and enlightenment yet every time the subject of christianity comes up the intolerant haters calling themselves atheists come out of the woodwork like cockroaches. I astounds me that alternate religions like Jainism, Buddhism are so accepted here but to believe in the mainstream religions a person must be a delusional twat
yeah... we see how enlightening psychedelics and education are
I deal with these vicious mutants often on my college campus. They're not preaching the words and teachings of Christ (I'm personally a Jeffersonian-esque Christian - Jesus of Nazareth was a righteous guy, but I don't believe he was the son of God) but rather, decrying what they see as moral debauchery on college campuses. They're trying to make young people feel bad for being themselves, yelling about how we're going to hell for practicing the sins of homosexuality/promiscuity/etc.
They rant about the Old Testament in all its baby-murdering glory. There is no love or tolerance in what they have to say. To put it bluntly - they're trolls.

Those are extremists that you are dealing with. I am a Christian and know a lot of Christians; have traveled all around meeting other Christians and never has myself or anyone I came across (as an organization. I cannot speak for the individual as I do not follow them around daily.) Done any of the things you described. We go to church and live or lives, working regular jobs with regular families. A lot of the churches around do open their doors to the homeless in the winter (gay or not) as well as put on fundraisers when someone is in need. Yes a long time ago there was the crusades, nothing I can do about that. And in the Christian bible it says no man is perfect, thats why we ask for forgiveness.
Yes I do not agree with being gay, so you know what? I don't engage in homosexual acts. Nor do the other members of my church to my knowledge. But we don't go out and bash gays. I have a gay aunt and at leat 6 gay friends (probably more though these 6 are close friends and I can think of them off the top of my head).
And just because someone doesn't feel that an evil person should be punished because they don't agree doesn't make it not real. I didn't agree with prison but the judge still sent me there and it was very real.
You and a lot others are more judgemental than any Christian I have met. You fail to examine all the good things we believe in. And at least the extremists you are talking about believe enough in something to go out and make a stand instead of crying like a little kid on the internet. I don't push my beliefs on anyone and am very openminded, caring, giving, and forgiving. You know where I personally learned these things? CHURCH!
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: The Influence]
#15416692 - 11/24/11 09:14 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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So now the schools should be responsible for teaching children one religious belief about the universe and creation? what about all the other religions out there? They differ from each other you would then have to teach all of them to be fair. Just like schools should be responsible for teaching sex to children? That's a joke Parents should be responsible for teaching their children about religious beliefs just like they should be responsible for teaching their childern about sex. somethings aren't meant to be in school. I know in my school they had a separate class that was all about religious ideas/beliefs including creationism. So the argument for creationism in school is dead. Most schools have been teaching it and other beliefs for years, at least where I live they have.
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Beefcakemighty]
#15416721 - 11/24/11 09:23 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Beefcakemighty]
#15417747 - 11/24/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Beefcakemighty said: So now the schools should be responsible for teaching children one religious belief about the universe and creation? what about all the other religions out there? They differ from each other you would then have to teach all of them to be fair. Just like schools should be responsible for teaching sex to children? That's a joke Parents should be responsible for teaching their children about religious beliefs just like they should be responsible for teaching their childern about sex. somethings aren't meant to be in school. I know in my school they had a separate class that was all about religious ideas/beliefs including creationism. So the argument for creationism in school is dead. Most schools have been teaching it and other beliefs for years, at least where I live they have.
I hope that wasn't directed towards me, because I never said religion should be taught in schools. But if one truley believes in a religion it would be messed up to not try and teach your children to be saved. If my daughter grows up and desides she doesn't believe then thats fine, but that doesn't mean I am not going to teach her about my faith. It might be hard for you to understand since I take it you don't believe. My point was that the majority of the people in this thread and site in general are more hostel and closeminded than any Christian I know
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: The Influence]
#15417777 - 11/24/11 02:07 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: sunset_mission]
#15418011 - 11/24/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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sunset_mission said: However, science is not a religion. That would be like saying that just because you have faith in your favorite baseball team to win, means that the NY Yankees have become a religion.
for some, baseball is a religion just as science is to others
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: The Ecstatic]
#15418013 - 11/24/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I admit parts of me really despises Christianity, especially the fuck tard shown in the video. Most of my hate is directed at Catholics because of the millions of people that ideology has killed and evangelicalism. The latter is more personal to me because of my Palestinian roots. Actually my Palestinian roots have led me to hate most religions including Islam and Judaism but I've never met a worse group of people than evangelicals. The truth is though, Evangelicals hate Palestine more than even the Jews. There are plenty of Jews who defend Palestine while Evangelicals want all of Palestine wiped out even if Palestinian Evangelicals (Oxy-MORONS) pray for there support (step up Jerry Falwell.) The worst thing is most of them are also hardcore anti-semites. They believe Jesus will come back and finish what Hitler started. I'm willing to bet most of the preachers are frauds like Pat Robertson. I also hate them because of there opposition to things like drugs, sex, gay rights and science. I grew up in a Muslim family but I'm now a hardcore atheist. So naturally I have my own problems with Islam as well. However that doesn't mean I judge them all like some Christians do (not all). I dislike some hardcore Muslims like any Christian, but the moderate ones from any religion are ok with me. The same can not be said about some Christians and basically every other group in the world.
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Beefcakemighty] 1
#15418104 - 11/24/11 03:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Beefcakemighty said: So now the schools should be responsible for teaching children one religious belief about the universe and creation? what about all the other religions out there? They differ from each other you would then have to teach all of them to be fair. Just like schools should be responsible for teaching sex to children? That's a joke Parents should be responsible for teaching their children about religious beliefs just like they should be responsible for teaching their childern about sex. somethings aren't meant to be in school.
if the teachings of the school oppose the religion of the child then does that not violate the child's first amendment rights to freedom of religion just as forcing an atheist kid to learn of creation or other religious doctrine would violate that child's rights to be free from religion in the secular public school system... shouldnt this also mean that parents should be responsible for teaching their child history beyond 7000 years ago, shouldnt they also be responsible for teaching these secular theories of evolution and gravity since it's my belief that there is no gravity, but that the earth sucks
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Prisoner#1]
#15418249 - 11/24/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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You teach what there is proof for.
What is widely recognized logical fact.
You can't make other students suffer because of one's crazy ass beliefs.
"I don't believe in algebra, Ms. Anderson." *sigh* "Ok class. Skip this chapter, too."
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Prisoner#1]
#15418567 - 11/24/11 05:39 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: why all the hate for people that believe in the christian god, I keep hearing people on this site talking about respect, unity, tolerance, open mindedness and enlightenment yet every time the subject of christianity comes up the intolerant haters calling themselves atheists come out of the woodwork like cockroaches. I astounds me that alternate religions like Jainism, Buddhism are so accepted here but to believe in the mainstream religions a person must be a delusional twat
yeah... we see how enlightening psychedelics and education are
That's exactly how I feel. The people who are atheists who talk all this shit about God and Christianity look just as ignorant as the bible thumper preaching. Neither of you will ever prove your answer and you look REALLY, REALLY...REALLY fucking stupid for arguing about it. You look even more ignorant when you start taking jabs and not even discussing the topic.
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: DoctorFJK]
#15418976 - 11/24/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: You teach what there is proof for.
What is widely recognized logical fact.
You can't make other students suffer because of one's crazy ass beliefs.
"I don't believe in algebra, Ms. Anderson." *sigh* "Ok class. Skip this chapter, too."
Like how they teach the big bang theory? Or the theory of evolution? Cause these theories are hard cold facts right?Quote:
DoctorFJK said: I admit parts of me really despises Christianity, especially the fuck tard shown in the video. Most of my hate is directed at Catholics because of the millions of people that ideology has killed and evangelicalism. The latter is more personal to me because of my Palestinian roots. Actually my Palestinian roots have led me to hate most religions including Islam and Judaism but I've never met a worse group of people than evangelicals. The truth is though, Evangelicals hate Palestine more than even the Jews. There are plenty of Jews who defend Palestine while Evangelicals want all of Palestine wiped out even if Palestinian Evangelicals (Oxy-MORONS) pray for there support (step up Jerry Falwell.) The worst thing is most of them are also hardcore anti-semites. They believe Jesus will come back and finish what Hitler started. I'm willing to bet most of the preachers are frauds like Pat Robertson. I also hate them because of there opposition to things like drugs, sex, gay rights and science. I grew up in a Muslim family but I'm now a hardcore atheist. So naturally I have my own problems with Islam as well. However that doesn't mean I judge them all like some Christians do (not all). I dislike some hardcore Muslims like any Christian, but the moderate ones from any religion are ok with me. The same can not be said about some Christians and basically every other group in the world.
Ya man, your a whole lot better than what your describing? Im not even going to debate my religion with you, but have you seen what they do to someone for having sex out of marriage, or being gay in a muslim country? They fucking hang them or stone them to death. Christians hold up a sign saying they will got to hell I could go on and on, but there is no point. Haters going to hate .
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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: The Influence]
#15419077 - 11/24/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bullshit. The two sides are not even. I've never been harassed on my doorstep by an atheist into accepting Darwin.
Reality has a secular bias. And churches have LONG been an organizing force in politics.
Why do you think we pay tons of money to Israel every year?
P.S. If not stoning someone to death is your moral compass...
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