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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: withoutawire]
    #15419579 - 11/24/11 09:10 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Ya man, your a whole lot better than what your describing?  Im not even going to debate my religion with you, but have you seen what they do to someone for having sex out of marriage, or being gay in a muslim country? They fucking hang them or stone them to death. Christians hold up a sign saying they will got to hell I could go on and on, but there is no point. Haters going to hate .




The reason I hate though is because the people I described have SPECIFIC reasons to hate me because where I'm from, something I have no choice over. And for the most part I don't hate the people, I hate the ideology. I have every right to hate whatever ideology I want, it's a shame that you belief it's the truth. I don't believe it is so my hating on Christianity is no different to me hating on Islam, Judaism or Neo-Nazism.

Secondly the comparison is comical. Just because a country is better than an ideology stuck in the 7th century doesn't mean your perfect. And just so you know that happens in only a couple of countries, one of them being Saudi Arabia a country which your government holds hands with and instead decides to blame there short comings on all other Arabs. Anyway the US, UK ect are not Christian countries. They are secular countries, if they were a Christian state then we would see the stoning of Homosexuals and adultery. Christian Sharia law, the type the likes of Pat Robertson and the WBB church want to infect the US with would turn the US into Congo. In countries like Congo and Uganda, gays are stoned and witches are burned. All in the name of love. Hell, 20% of Rwanda's population was wiped out because of the word of a very hateful and evil God. Good day sir.


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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: withoutawire]
    #15419769 - 11/24/11 10:05 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I tried to watch the video earlier.  It didn't work, but the preview shot looked like the professor was about to enter a dance-off:lol:

Anyway, I don't get into talks about what religion does this or that or what's right or wrong...I don't really get into that whole organized religion.  It just seems like a business industry now.  But as far as the video goes, the little spat between the professor and the solicitor was fair. They can have their dual. The guy says "I teach logic, mother fucker"...who cares :shrug: If I believe in free speech, then I have to allow the "preacher" to say whatever he wants...as long as he's not immediately threatening me.

My problem was with the crowd mentality that started up.  Those guys really verbally ganged up on that man.  I thought it was really shitty.  It seemed like those guys were hiding behind the professor's words.  Fuckin' douche cowards.  I have to say, if I ever saw my boyfriend or my son act like that towards someone, I'd be really disappointed in them.  Even though I don't believe what that man believes, and yes I've had my fair share of experiences with those campus crawlers.  It's annoying as shit, but I'd never want to belittle a person like that. 

I usually just indulge them, to make them feel like they've accomplished something :flowers: Do they change my mind?...Well, no. Does this mean I have a complex?

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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Normal Flora]
    #15426268 - 11/26/11 01:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Nice post Laurelei. :cheers:


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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #15426317 - 11/26/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Props to the professor.  Religion = anti-intellectualism.  Religion = spiritual forfeit. 

Plus the guy was not a student of the school, so I'm pretty sure he can't just show up on campus and spew his brainwash. 












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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Learyfan]
    #15437322 - 11/28/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Plus the guy was not a student of the school, so I'm pretty sure he can't just show up on campus and spew his brainwash. 




Only true if it's a private university.

Personally, I'd rather have my kids read the Bible than nothing at all. :trolldance:


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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Asante]
    #15437332 - 11/28/11 08:10 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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A professor who calls someone he is debating with a motherfucker in the presence of students is a horrible rolemodel. What a prick :thumbdown:



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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #15437354 - 11/28/11 08:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Well they aren't exactly kids are they? I really think that's being overzealous tbh, it wasn't a debate, it was an angry Christian shoving his shit down throats who had no interest in what he had to say. The professor simply called a spade a spade. And I don't really think the whole concept of role modelling is a good one either, it doesn't always work and just have a look at the so called role models in the world today.


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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: DoctorFJK]
    #15437418 - 11/28/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Well they aren't exactly kids are they? I really think that's being overzealous tbh, it wasn't a debate, it was an angry Christian shoving his shit down throats who had no interest in what he had to say. The professor simply called a spade a spade. And I don't really think the whole concept of role modelling is a good one either, it doesn't always work and just have a look at the so called role models in the world today.



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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: morrowasted]
    #15437433 - 11/28/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

You have definitely lost the debate by the time you whip out the MF bomb.

Maybe he was just trying to be cute to get the kids interested, I don't know. I didn't watch the video because I've heard more than enough hot air from self-important atheists who apply good logic to the wrong situations. Regardless, calling your opponent a "motherfucker" is a debate fail by default if nothing else.


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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: DoctorFJK]
    #15437440 - 11/28/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I'm usually a pretty respectful person but sometimes you just got to tell someone to :eatadick: and take their bullshit elsewhere.

If you have the stones to go into a public space and start spewing out controversial topics or attacking peoples' personal beliefs, then you should man up and be prepared for someone to tell you to suck a fat cock and take your bullshit elsewhere. Most people just don't want to hear it.

I'm all for free speech but there is a time, place, and most importantly a method. If your method is being an annoying, loud, douchebag... don't be suprised when someone tells you to fuck off.


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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #15437451 - 11/28/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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You have definitely lost the debate by the time you whip out the MF bomb.

Maybe he was just trying to be cute to get the kids interested, I don't know. I didn't watch the video because I've heard more than enough hot air from self-important atheists who apply good logic to the wrong situations. Regardless, calling your opponent a "motherfucker" is a debate fail by default if nothing else.




It wasn't really a debate. It was a loud, annoying, christian douchebag pissing people off on a college campus.


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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Subconscious]
    #15437456 - 11/28/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

So the solution is to call him a motherfucker? I see two loud, annoying douchebags here, one Christian and the other pedantic.


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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Subconscious]
    #15437460 - 11/28/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I could teach logic :shrug: I'm an ace in propositional, predicate, modal, and meta-logic. Calling someone a motherfucker never strengthens one's position from a logical (that is to say, argumentatively convincing) standpoint.


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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #15437476 - 11/28/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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You have definitely lost the debate by the time you whip out the MF bomb.


Not true, committing one logical fallacy doesn't automatically make you lose a debate.
If we're gonna talk about whose position is more logically fallacious, then...:commonsense:


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Maybe he was just trying to be cute to get the kids interested, I don't know. I didn't watch the video because I've heard more than enough hot air from self-important atheists who apply good logic to the wrong situations. Regardless, calling your opponent a "motherfucker" is a debate fail by default if nothing else.


I didn't watch the video either, but I seriously doubt he was using his "mother fucker" comment as an argument. It's much more likely that the comment was just an irrelevant tangential emotionalism, and that he was just talking shit for the mere sake of talking shit.


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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: morrowasted]
    #15437482 - 11/28/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Face palming someone in a debate without an explanation is exactly the same thing as calling someone a motherfucker.

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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: DoctorFJK]
    #15437487 - 11/28/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Face palming someone in a debate without an explanation is exactly the same thing as calling someone a motherfucker.

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Not really :shrug:


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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #15437495 - 11/28/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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I see two loud, annoying douchebags here, one Christian and the other pedantic.



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I didn't watch the video...




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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Poid]
    #15437511 - 11/28/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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You have definitely lost the debate by the time you whip out the MF bomb.


Not true, committing one logical fallacy doesn't automatically make you lose a debate.
If we're gonna talk about whose position is more logically fallacious, then...:commonsense:




No, but again unless he was trying to draw attention with a populist appeal, there's just no excuse, as a professor of "Logic" or whatever, to call somebody a motherfucker in public. We resort to ad hominems when we've exhausted the capacity of logic to rebut the opponent's position. Calling somebody a "motherfucker" is not fallacious in itself but it speaks of an argumentative failure beyond a doubt.

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Maybe he was just trying to be cute to get the kids interested, I don't know. I didn't watch the video because I've heard more than enough hot air from self-important atheists who apply good logic to the wrong situations. Regardless, calling your opponent a "motherfucker" is a debate fail by default if nothing else.


I didn't watch the video either, but I seriously doubt he was using his "mother fucker" comment as an argument. It's much more likely that the comment was just an irrelevant tangential emotionalism, and that he was just talking shit for the mere sake of talking shit.




If he doesn't have better ways to spend his time than talking shit to random God freaks then he's probably a piss-poor professor.


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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Poid]
    #15437512 - 11/28/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Tchan909 said:
I see two loud, annoying douchebags here, one Christian and the other pedantic.



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I didn't watch the video...




:lol:




I saw them in my mind's eye, dammit! :shakefist:


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Re: "I teach logic, mother fucker." Professor Confronts Preacher on Campus [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #15437517 - 11/28/11 08:43 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

BTW, just because that one immediately followed my last post and started a new page, don't ignore that last post because it's much better. :rofl:


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